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Conservative Hypocrisy on Spending.
« on: October 26, 2010, 02:35:35 PM »
Stimulating Hypocrisy: Scores of Recovery Act Opponents Sought Money Out of Public View

http://www.publicintegrity.org/articles/entry/2532/

Rep. Pete Sessions, the firebrand conservative from Dallas, Texas, has relentlessly assailed the Democratic-passed stimulus law as a wasteful "trillion dollar spending spree" that was "more about stimulating the government and rewarding political allies than growing the economy and creating jobs."

But that didn’t stop the Republican lawmaker from reaching his hand out behind the scenes to seek stimulus money for the suburb of Carrollton after the camera lights went dark and the GOP campaign against the 2009 stimulus law quieted down.

The affluent city’s rail project is “shovel-ready,” Sessions wrote Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood in February, urging his cabinet agency to give “full and fair consideration” to the city’s request for $81 million in stimulus money, according to a copy of the letter obtained by the Center for Public Integrity. Ironically, his letter suggested the project would create jobs, undercutting the very public argument he has made against the stimulus.

“Carrollton’s project will create jobs, stimulate the economy, improve regional mobility and reduce pollution,” the lawmaker wrote.

When asked about the letter, Sessions suggested to the Center that he did not want his “strong, principled objection to the bill to prevent me” from getting his congressional district its share of the massive spending pot.

Sessions was hardly alone.

Scores of Republicans and conservative Democrats who voted against the $787 billion American Recovery and Reinvestment Act subsequently wrote letters requesting funds for projects in a massive, behind-the-scenes letter-writing and phone call campaign, documents obtained by the Center show.

See What Stimulus Projects Members of Congress Lobbied for in Your State
Select a state, region or territory from the list below to see copies of the letters the Center obtained from the Energy, Commerce and Transportation Departments.


Those asking for money include Tea Party favorites like freshman Massachusetts Sen. Scott Brown and Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., former presidential candidates Ron Paul and John McCain and Republican congressional leaders like Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky and Rep. Mike Pence of Indiana.

Many Democratic leaders who had boasted they prevented lawmakers from inserting special spending requests in the stimulus law when it passed also engaged in the behind-the-scenes letter writing to secure funding afterwards, including Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

Rep. Brad Ellsworth, the Indiana Democrat now running for U.S. Senate, originally voted against the stimulus plan but later came around to cautiously supporting it. He collected $6,500 in donations from Duke Energy’s political action committee in the months just before and after he wrote an August 2009 letter supporting the utility giant’s ultimately successful request for an Energy Department grant, the Center found. Ellsworth’s office declined comment.

The letters particularly dismay conservative advocacy groups like the Tea Party and Americans for Tax Reform that have been backing Republicans in the fall election but now see a touch of hypocrisy among candidates they thought were conservative champions of federal spending cuts.

“The GOP should not be taking this money and spending it regardless of where it came from,” said Rob Gaudet, national coordinator for Tea Party Patriots. “They should be fighting against it with every fiber of their elected beings.”

Mattie Corrao, the Executive Director of Americans for Tax Reform’s Center for Fiscal Accountability, said the letters show “it’s about self-interest” when it comes to federal spending.

“Politicians just want to keep their jobs,” she said. “In no way should anyone be buying into that failed argument [for the stimulus]. But the case is the money is going somewhere, and people who want to stay elected and see it as politically beneficial are going to do it.”

Over the last year, isolated reports of lawmakers and governors seeking funds from a single agency handing out stimulus money have surfaced in the news media. The Center set out to determine how widespread the practice was and who engaged in it.

Using both federal agency sources and the Freedom of Information Act, the Center collected a stack of letters a foot high detailing nearly 2,000 requests from lawmakers in both parties to secure funding from a law designed to stimulate the sagging economy. The Center obtained a total of more than 1,500 of these letters from just three departments: Transportation, Energy, and Commerce.

The correspondence provides a stark example of the gulf between political promises and action.

When the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act was signed into law, President Barack Obama boasted it was free of so-called earmarks that have been used by lawmakers for years to steer federal monies to their pet projects. Earmarks have become a symbol of corrupt, wasteful Washington spending.

“We’re not having earmarks in the recovery package, period,” the president-elect declared even before his inauguration, promising the stimulus grant award process would create a “new higher standard of accountability, transparency, and oversight.”

The law promised to pump $787 billion into the American economy to “create new jobs and save existing ones, spur economic activity and invest in long-term growth, [and] foster unprecedented levels of accountability and transparency in government spending.” A portion of the money was passed out to various government agencies, which in turn decided what projects should be awarded grants.

While the legislation passed through Congress without any traditional earmarks, lawmakers have worked behind the scenes, cajoling agencies to secure stimulus money for their favored projects for constituents and donors.

The practice — known among lobbyists as “lettermarking”  — has been controversial for years. For instance, infamous superlobbyist Jack Abramoff, since convicted on charges related to fraud and bribery, often arranged for lawmakers to send letters to agencies pressing for appropriation funds, then followed up with donations to the lawmakers who acquiesced.

The White House said it anticipated lawmakers would resort to such a strategy, so Obama issued a directive in March 2009 to agencies telling them they must weigh all grant requests on the merits regardless of political pressure.

“No considerations contained in oral or written communications from any person or entity concerning particular projects…shall supersede or supplant consideration by executive departments and agencies of such projects … for funding pursuant to applicable merit-based criteria,” the president’s executive order mandated.

The “lettermarking” following passage of the stimulus law nonetheless created a system of political pressure that has been less transparent than if lawmakers had attached their earmarks to the legislative language, which would have allowed the public to see who pushed for what project, spending experts said.

While earmarks remain a serious issue, the lack of obvious earmarks “created a vacuum where lettermarking became a way for people to try to exploit [the process] and pursue the funding … under the radar,” said Steve Ellis of Taxpayers for Common Sense, a nonprofit, nonpartisan group that has long opposed earmarks.

One of the most famous critics of earmarks and pork-barrel spending — former presidential candidate and current Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain — joined the letter-writing crowd after the stimulus law he voted against passed.

McCain, who made running against pork a key plank of his 2008 presidential campaign, sent a letter offering his “conditional support” for Department of Transportation funds for Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport. “My longstanding policy is to treat fairly all Arizona entities applying for federal programs, and I feel it is important not to endorse one applicant over another,” wrote McCain, who also noted that he was writing at the request of the City of Phoenix.

In response to a FOIA request from the Center, the Department of Commerce handed over stacks of paper documenting the lettermarking process in the stimulus bill.“These funds are for a specific purpose that will usher into our community a much more tightly knit transit system alternative to the private automobile. … The TIGER discretionary grant deserves your consideration within existing rules, regulations, and ethical guidelines.”

That grant was not awarded. McCain also wrote three letters to the Department of Commerce. The three closely mirror the Transportation letter and serve as cover letters for attached official requests.  McCain’s office did not respond to repeated calls seeking comment.

Sessions, the conservative Texan, continued his assault on the stimulus law while trying to justify his request supporting a stimulus grant for Carrolton, Texas. The city did not win the grant.

“The Democrats’ stimulus bill is an abject failure that has cost taxpayers $1 trillion while over 3 million additional Americans lost their jobs. I voted against this borrow-and-spend policy last year, and I would again today if given the chance,” he told the Center in a written statement.

“What I have not done is allow my strong, principled objection to the bill to prevent me from asking federal agencies for their full consideration of critical infrastructure and competitive grant projects for North Texas when asked to do so by my constituents.”

Sen. Scott Brown’s first press conference after being sworn in.Brown, the Massachusetts Republican upstart who shocked the political world earlier this year when he captured the Senate seat held by Ted Kennedy for half a century, said shortly after his swearing in that the stimulus “didn’t create one new job.”

That didn’t stop him from writing a letter less than two months later in support of the Massachusetts Broadband Institute (MBI). In the letter, Brown writes that proposed stimulus projects like MBI’s will “help prepare our next generation of entrepreneurs and job creators.”

MBI was eventually awarded a $45.4 million in stimulus funding. Brown’s office did not respond to multiple requests for comment.


A reporter from the New England Center for Investigative Journalism went to Brown’s home in Massachusetts, where the senator acknowledged he opposed the stimulus but considered it a “minor” part of the various policies he opposes. He then asked the reporter to leave. The reporter was subsequently stopped by police after she left and questioned why she went to the senator’s home for fair comment.

Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., another icon of the anti-spending conservative movement embodied by the Tea Party, has complained the stimulus bill will require “massive tax increases” to create short-term jobs and ran a campaign ad this month boasting that she fought against “the failed Pelosi trillion-dollar stimulus.”

But she wrote more than a half dozen letters to federal agencies on behalf of proposed stimulus grants, including one to the Transportation Department for the St. Croix River Crossing Project that she argued “would directly produce 1,407 new jobs per year while indirectly producing 1,563 a year - a total of 2,970 jobs each year after the project’s completion.” The project did not win the award.

Bachmann told the MinnPost news site, which worked with the Center on this project, that she still opposed the stimulus because it “piled a massive amount of debt on our children and grandchildren” but saw nothing wrong with her letters. “It is my obligation as a member of Congress to ensure stimulus dollars are spent on the most worthy projects. I did just that when I supported applications for the TIGER grant program.”

Freshman Republican Rep. Anh “Joseph” Cao, who voted against the stimulus, later submitted two letters to the Department of Transportation requesting funds for projects in his district, including a request for streetcar renovations in New Orleans that were awarded a $45 million grant.

Spokesman Taylor Henry told the Center that the congressman had no problem writing the letters after opposing the bill, as he voted against it for a nonpartisan reason.

“Congressman Cao voted against the stimulus package because it placed his district dead last among the nation’s 435 House districts in the amount of funding it provided,” wrote Henry.

“He felt he could not in good conscience vote for a bill that did not provide his district the funding it deserves. His subsequent efforts to secure stimulus money for projects in his district are part of that ongoing quest to get funding for the district’s recovery.”

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Re: Conservative Hypocrisy on Spending.
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2010, 02:56:53 PM »
He was definitely a hypocrite, but not hard to understand why anyone in their respective districts would take the money after the bill had already become law.

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Re: Conservative Hypocrisy on Spending.
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2010, 02:57:25 PM »
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Its not hypocritical since his constituents are going to pay for this crap sandwich for decades and should at least get something out of it.  

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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2010, 02:59:28 PM »
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Its not hypocritical since his constituents are going to pay for this crap sandwich for decades and should at least get something out of it. 

Bullshit.

Look up the definition of hypocrisy and get back to me.

He is... Period. If he had any scruples he would turn the fucking money down and then even talk about how his voters got no money and still pay for it... So he actually has a fucking leg to stand on.

That's what he should have done.


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Re: Conservative Hypocrisy on Spending.
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2010, 03:00:55 PM »
Bullshit.

Look up the definition of hypocrisy and get back to me.

He is... Period. If he had any scruples he would turn the fucking money down and then even talk about how his voters got no money and still pay for it... So he actually has a fucking leg to stand on.

That's what he should have done.




Not true - if you fgelt that way than the samne thing should have been said about the extra money people got from the Bush tax cuts in districts where the people voted against it.   

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Re: Conservative Hypocrisy on Spending.
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2010, 03:03:23 PM »

Not true - if you fgelt that way than the samne thing should have been said about the extra money people got from the Bush tax cuts in districts where the people voted against it.   

Tax cuts to individuals and ear marks to district groups are not the same thing.

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Re: Conservative Hypocrisy on Spending.
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2010, 03:05:08 PM »
Actually what he probably should have done was apologize for being a hypocrite and made some speech about doing what's in the best interests of his constituents, etc. 

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Re: Conservative Hypocrisy on Spending.
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2010, 03:05:37 PM »
Tax cuts to individuals and ear marks to district groups are not the same thing.

Its the same thing.  

The citizens are going to pay for the projects regardless and if they are going to pay for it, at least they should get something for it.  

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Re: Conservative Hypocrisy on Spending.
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2010, 03:06:18 PM »
Actually what he probably should have done was apologize for being a hypocrite and made some speech about doing what's in the best interests of his constituents, etc.  

If that's the case, then he should have taken whatever the money was... Divided amongst people with property taxes and given them all X amount of dollars towards their property tax payments.

Then it's going exactly back to the individuals.

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Re: Conservative Hypocrisy on Spending.
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2010, 03:06:54 PM »
If that's the case, then he should have taken whatever the money was... Divided amongst people with property taxes and given them all X amount of dollars towards their property tax payments.

Then it's going exactly back to the individuals.

Did you read your article as to why he voted against it?

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Re: Conservative Hypocrisy on Spending.
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2010, 03:08:22 PM »
Did you read your article as to why he voted against it?

Yes I did... Couldn't vote for a bill that doesn't provide funding it deserves?

How about him not wanting earmarks but being for them in his district?

I got on this discussion with my homie today... Everyone wants to cut spending, except from THEIR districts where it might impact their voters.

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Re: Conservative Hypocrisy on Spending.
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2010, 03:16:56 PM »
Yes I did... Couldn't vote for a bill that doesn't provide funding it deserves?

How about him not wanting earmarks but being for them in his district?

I got on this discussion with my homie today... Everyone wants to cut spending, except from THEIR districts where it might impact their voters.

The money is being spent regardless, at least the citizens in his district should get something for it since they will be paying for it for decades. 

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Re: Conservative Hypocrisy on Spending.
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2010, 03:32:49 PM »
The money is being spent regardless, at least the citizens in his district should get something for it since they will be paying for it for decades. 

And this isn't hypocritical how?

He wasn't the only one doing it, NPR had a list of several staunch opposition of the stimulus bill all with their hand outs requesting funds for their districts.

Pathetic.

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Re: Conservative Hypocrisy on Spending.
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2010, 03:41:34 PM »
And this isn't hypocritical how?

He wasn't the only one doing it, NPR had a list of several staunch opposition of the stimulus bill all with their hand outs requesting funds for their districts.

Pathetic.


No - it should have been that the taxpayers in those districts did not have to pay the taxes, debt, interest, inflation, on the stim bill, or get any of the projects.


You don't see that do you?   

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Re: Conservative Hypocrisy on Spending.
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2010, 03:46:43 PM »
Tu, obama said point blank that they would have to pay the money back whether they took any or not...

WHY THE FUCK WOULDNT YOU TAKE IT IF YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY IT BACK REGARDLESS?

OBAMA also said he would make states take money, maybe you should talk to obammers about this...

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Re: Conservative Hypocrisy on Spending.
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2010, 03:50:01 PM »

No - it should have been that the taxpayers in those districts did not have to pay the taxes, debt, interest, inflation, on the stim bill, or get any of the projects.


You don't see that do you?   


hhhhmmmm ? ? ? ? ? ?

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Re: Conservative Hypocrisy on Spending.
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2010, 03:53:09 PM »
Tu, obama said point blank that they would have to pay the money back whether they took any or not...

WHY THE FUCK WOULDNT YOU TAKE IT IF YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY IT BACK REGARDLESS?

OBAMA also said he would make states take money, maybe you should talk to obammers about this...

You don't take it based on principle... Aren't we always saying that your principles should count. Aren't we always saying that integrity SHOULD matter.

I have no problem telling Obama to fuck off too... He should have no right to tell states that they HAVE to take the cash. Fuck him.

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Re: Conservative Hypocrisy on Spending.
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2010, 03:56:48 PM »
You don't take it based on principle... Aren't we always saying that your principles should count. Aren't we always saying that integrity SHOULD matter.

I have no problem telling Obama to fuck off too... He should have no right to tell states that they HAVE to take the cash. Fuck him.
LMAO bro if someone told you, you were going to have to pay for a car whether you took it or not, what would you do?

seriously???

this is as petty as it gets and as idiotic as the day is long...youre getting on ppl for taking money they didnt want in the first place b/c they would be forced to pay for it whether they took it or not?

LMAO it has nothing to do with integrity it has to do with COMMON FREAKING SENSE...

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« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2010, 03:57:56 PM »
You don't take it based on principle... Aren't we always saying that your principles should count. Aren't we always saying that integrity SHOULD matter.

I have no problem telling Obama to fuck off too... He should have no right to tell states that they HAVE to take the cash. Fuck him.

Principles for the congressman himself is fine, but he represents 500k people who are going to have to pay for this crappola for decades.  

Like I said - the true fair way would be to be able to have no projects in the district but also not charge the taxes, interest, and inflation to the voters in their district in their porporationate share.    

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Re: Conservative Hypocrisy on Spending.
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2010, 03:58:06 PM »
LMAO bro if someone told you, you were going to have to pay for a car whether you took it or not, what would you do?

seriously???

this is as petty as it gets and as idiotic as the day is long...youre getting on ppl for taking money they didnt want in the first place b/c they would be forced to pay for it whether they took it or not?

LMAO it has nothing to do with integrity it has to do with COMMON FREAKING SENSE...

It's about integrity to me... You call it common sense, I've already stated where I stand.

You guys just be ok with the status quo, that's why America is in this bind.

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Re: Conservative Hypocrisy on Spending.
« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2010, 04:02:32 PM »
It's about integrity to me... You call it common sense, I've already stated where I stand.

You guys just be ok with the status quo, that's why America is in this bind.
LOL so you think that all the reps should have rejected the money(even though they were not allowed to by the POS pres)

as a result all the money would be funneled to dem projects and states and then you wanted the reps to pay for the honor?

LMAO all this is a moot point anyway as the POS that is obama barred them from refusing the money in the first place...

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Re: Conservative Hypocrisy on Spending.
« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2010, 04:03:39 PM »
LOL so you think that all the reps should have rejected the money(even though they were not allowed to by the POS pres)

as a result all the money would be funneled to dem projects and states and then you wanted the reps to pay for the honor?

LMAO all this is a moot point anyway as the POS that is obama barred them from refusing the money in the first place...

Like I said, if Obama tried to bar me from refusing the money, I'd take it up with the courts.

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Re: Conservative Hypocrisy on Spending.
« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2010, 04:04:24 PM »
LMAO bro if someone told you, you were going to have to pay for a car whether you took it or not, what would you do?



haha...that has got to be the best damn analogy to this situation yet.


You guys just be ok with the status quo, that's why America is in this bind.



Suggesting this is hypocrisy is being just as blind, cause you're conveniently ignoring the fact that was forced.  The issue needs to be considered as a whole and Tony's analogy is very apt.

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Re: Conservative Hypocrisy on Spending.
« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2010, 04:04:54 PM »
Like I said, if Obama tried to bar me from refusing the money, I'd take it up with the courts.

Maybe you should be in court with him as it is over the mandate in ZeroCare.  

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« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2010, 04:05:11 PM »

haha...that has got to be the best damn analogy to this situation yet.



Suggesting this is hypocrisy is being just as blind, cause you're conveniently ignoring the fact that was forced.  The issue needs to be considered as a whole and Tony's analogy is very apt.

No I'm not... I responded to the issue about people being "forced".

Selective reading you got there?