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Re: Ultra high volume and high reps?
« Reply #25 on: October 31, 2010, 10:47:12 AM »
I agree here as well. Since I've been really concentrating on feeling my muscles contract, my pumps are much better, and my muscles have gotten harder and fuller.

I picked up Arnold's Encyclopedia Of Bodybuilding at the Border's bargain rack for 3 bucks (steal!) and throughout the book he always emphasizes the importance of feeling the muscle work through the entire range of motion, as well as visualization...putting your "mind in your muscle". Makes all the difference in the world, IMO.

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Re: Ultra high volume and high reps?
« Reply #26 on: October 31, 2010, 10:49:30 AM »
Another advantage of higher reps is that it may well allow you to train without the fear of getting "stuck" under a weight that  would be otherwise too heavy too lift after five or so reps.  Something you can handle for twenty or more reps on say, the bench press, even should you become exhausted and rested the bar on your chest while performing the movement, would probably allow you to rest for several seconds and then push it up and rack it.

It also stands to reason that you are less likely to injure yourself with a lighter weight.  As the reps progress, the weight will feel heavier to you and provide some of the benefits of heavier training, with less of the danger of injuries.  Besides, as time goes and you become progressively stronger, what is light for you may well be thought of as heavy to other trainers, something I have personally witnessed.   Remember, the heaviness/lightness of a weight is relative to individual strength and in no way detracts from personal effort.

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Re: Ultra high volume and high reps?
« Reply #27 on: October 31, 2010, 12:26:08 PM »
Agreed. And since my rotators are pretty jacked, a little lighter weight and higher reps are better for me in that regard as well.

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Re: Ultra high volume and high reps?
« Reply #28 on: October 31, 2010, 01:12:01 PM »
The calisthenic kings all look small for the most part. The record holder for push ups looks like he never touched a weight in his life. I could do 500 free squats under 15 minutes in high school and my legs looked like shit. It builds up endurance and perseverance. If you hit the iron after a long time with such a prototcol, you will quickly realize that you have no real strength. Your fast twitch fibers are not trained properly.

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Re: Ultra high volume and high reps?
« Reply #29 on: October 31, 2010, 02:12:28 PM »
post pics

do you hit a wall recovery wise?

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Re: Ultra high volume and high reps?
« Reply #30 on: October 31, 2010, 02:24:38 PM »
Rubbish. In essence you are advocating the use of pink dumbells for the remainder of a trainees life in order to get huge.

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Re: Ultra high volume and high reps?
« Reply #31 on: October 31, 2010, 02:27:51 PM »
I Know my cock get's Harder when i do high rep's of pumping

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Re: Ultra high volume and high reps?
« Reply #32 on: October 31, 2010, 02:29:51 PM »
When I first started working out at 15 years old, I didn't know what the fuck I was doing.

 So, I'd just do ungodly amounts of pushups, situps squats and curls.

 My workout would go like this:
 
 Do a couple hundred pushups.

 Do a couple hundred situps.

 Do a couple hundred squats holding 20 pound dumbells.

 Do about a hundred curls with the 20's.

 It was a full body workout and i'd do this about 3 x per week.

 I know that this workout sounds ridiculous, but it WORKED. Back then I was swole as fuck just from doing that. I used to think it was just because of the fact that I was so young and just started lifting that I got good results fromt his.

 But now i'm starting to work out more like that again. Going low weight, high rep, high volume, and once again i'm blowing up MUCH better than I did off standard 8-12 rep sets.

 Maybe each person's genetics are different, and this ultra-high rep stuff works for some people? Maybe i'm one of these people? What do you think?

 I'm starting to think I should just throw all bro-science out the window and just do some really unconventional shit.
Post a current pic, show us what you're working with here.
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Re: Ultra high volume and high reps?
« Reply #33 on: October 31, 2010, 03:16:56 PM »
Post a current pic, show us what you're working with here.

Yes, chaos wants a good, hard look at you.

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Re: Ultra high volume and high reps?
« Reply #34 on: October 31, 2010, 03:20:25 PM »
i dont do any volume right now and still have 20 inch arms at 270

once i get back into working out and curing my heart condition with mega doses of vitamin c i will do high volume
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Re: Ultra high volume and high reps?
« Reply #35 on: October 31, 2010, 03:27:42 PM »
Yes, chaos wants a good, hard look at you.
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Re: Ultra high volume and high reps?
« Reply #36 on: October 31, 2010, 06:41:02 PM »
Post a current pic, show us what you're working with here.

 Send my 50 bucks cash and i'll mail you a glossy autographed pic of myself posing in a cowboy outfit with my hard cock sticking out.

 I'll even throw in my sweaty jock strap.
 

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Re: Ultra high volume and high reps?
« Reply #37 on: October 31, 2010, 07:46:59 PM »
When I first started working out at 15 years old, I didn't know what the fuck I was doing.

 So, I'd just do ungodly amounts of pushups, situps squats and curls.

 My workout would go like this:
 
 Do a couple hundred pushups.

 Do a couple hundred situps.

 Do a couple hundred squats holding 20 pound dumbells.

 Do about a hundred curls with the 20's.

 It was a full body workout and i'd do this about 3 x per week.

 I know that this workout sounds ridiculous, but it WORKED. Back then I was swole as fuck just from doing that. I used to think it was just because of the fact that I was so young and just started lifting that I got good results fromt his.

 But now i'm starting to work out more like that again. Going low weight, high rep, high volume, and once again i'm blowing up MUCH better than I did off standard 8-12 rep sets.

 Maybe each person's genetics are different, and this ultra-high rep stuff works for some people? Maybe i'm one of these people? What do you think?

 I'm starting to think I should just throw all bro-science out the window and just do some really unconventional shit.

without a doubt i reckon its this...

when you first started, you were young and pumped full of test. whatever you did would yield results, and you trained your body to respond to that regime.

now that you are older, your new routine is hitting muscle that isnt used to that stimulus, so you not only dont have the test you had, you also arent exposing your muscles to a routine that you had adapted to.

so you barely invoke muscle me memory, learned rep patterns, and are doing it with much lower test.

of course going back to the old ways will give you decent results.

its unlikely that it has anything to do with a rep range or number of exercises.

either way, you need to learn how to work out what the variables are- not just put 1 and 1 together and come up with 54.

alot of things have changed since you trained like that. any one alone, two, three, or all in combination could generate this response.

you need to determine what makes sense- based on how the body/brain works- not what is the simplest cause and effect.

i may have eaten a chocolate bar when i had the flu last time, along with my medication. Do i think i got better because of the chocolate bar?

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Re: Ultra high volume and high reps?
« Reply #38 on: October 31, 2010, 07:49:48 PM »
without a doubt i reckon its this...

when you first started, you were young and pumped full of test. whatever you did would yield results, and you trained your body to respond to that regime.

now that you are older, your new routine is hitting muscle that isnt used to that stimulus, so you not only dont have the test you had, you also arent exposing your muscles to a routine that you had adapted to.

so you barely invoke muscle me memory, learned rep patterns, and are doing it with much lower test.

of course going back to the old ways will give you decent results.

its unlikely that it has anything to do with a rep range or number of exercises.

either way, you need to learn how to work out what the variables are- not just put 1 and 1 together and come up with 54.

alot of things have changed since you trained like that. any one alone, two, three, or all in combination could generate this response.

you need to determine what makes sense- based on how the body/brain works- not what is the simplest cause and effect.

i may have eaten a chocolate bar when i had the flu last time, along with my medication. Do i think i got better because of the chocolate bar?

 True, it might just be that i'm shocking my muscles with different stimuli.

 I'm gonna keep experimenting and see if that's what it is, or if the routine just works better.

 I do know that i'm getting awesome pumps and I feel after after a good high volume, high rep workout. After more of and HIT style workout I just feel a lot more normal.

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Re: Ultra high volume and high reps?
« Reply #39 on: November 01, 2010, 08:24:50 PM »
Send my 50 bucks cash and i'll mail you a glossy autographed pic of myself posing in a cowboy outfit with my hard cock sticking out.

 I'll even throw in my sweaty jock strap.
 

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Re: Ultra high volume and high reps?
« Reply #40 on: November 01, 2010, 09:18:07 PM »
Rubbish. In essence you are advocating the use of pink dumbells for the remainder of a trainees life in order to get huge.

That's how you make sure THIS stays a 10.