Look at the physiques 14 years ago at the NPC USAs and Nationals Heavyweights...

[Wiggs]

Fucking pathetic what we've come to...Look at the conditioning, shape, proportions, tie-ins...WTF happened?  No synthol back then, all HG gear back then also....sad

HOLY SHIT check out Edgar Fletcher...

Titus and Prince look awesome...this was actually the first show I ever saw...it was on ESPN.

[JimmyJam1974]

90% of GB'rs have a better chest than Palumbo

[che]

Fucking pathetic what we've come to...Look at the conditioning, shape, proportions, tie-ins...WTF happened?  No synthol back then, all HG gear back then also....sad

I totally agree, modern BB is a joke.

[Wiggs]

Nationals same year...mixture of many weightclasses...

Kamali...

Prince and Cutler and our very own Bobert Chick

Orville Burke

[mesmorph78]

Have to agree modern bbing is a joke Indeed
it's all about sissy training all these fancy methods fst7 etc
I think the genetics have declined

[~UN_$ung~]

bodybuilding was very popular from th e 80s to the mid 90s ................so the field to select the best from was bigger




but i am also of the mind that the drugs were better back then...............every thing was pharma grade, all the growth was pharma grade..........and i think i shows in the physiques




now-a-days.....many guys are using bathtub brew and cheap chinese GH, even many of the top guys


some would argue, but i feel its noticable

[Wiggs]

Many of these guys the way they looked then would place very well and in some cases win alot of the small pro shows...And the talent pool was much better back then...alot of the guys today have no business on stage.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

They actually suffered when they dieted then

[The_Hammer]

I noticed the top pros of the 90's trained very heavy just weeks out from the contest and nowadays you'll be luck to see a guy benching 225 for 6 reps.

[mesmorph78]

I noticed the top pros of the 90's trained very heavy just weeks out from the contest and nowadays you'll be luck to see a guy benching 225 for 6 reps.

yes very true these guys nowadays are sissys
thats why they just look blown up on drugs
they dont carry the quality muscle of the guys in the 90's

[Schmoe Buster]

Many of these guys the way they looked then would place very well and in some cases win alot of the small pro shows...And the talent pool was much better back then...alot of the guys today have no business on stage.

X2

[Deicide]

Nationals same year...mixture of many weightclasses...

Kamali...

Prince and Cutler and our very own Bobert Chick

Orville Burke

Jay looks better there than he did the last 5 years. 

[disco_stu]

bodybuilding was very popular from th e 80s to the mid 90s ................so the field to select the best from was bigger




but i am also of the mind that the drugs were better back then...............every thing was pharma grade, all the growth was pharma grade..........and i think i shows in the physiques




now-a-days.....many guys are using bathtub brew and cheap chinese GH, even many of the top guys


some would argue, but i feel its noticable

so you are saying that the actual drugs are different now?
if they are, what is it about them?...not the same concentration?, not what's on the sticker?
i dont get your statement...its not like building products where you can get an inferior quality . a drug is a drug.
the only possibility is to get some dodgy ones that arent clean. and they are easy to spot as you get sick from them.
so unless the chinese have come up with some way to develop ultra cheap clones of synthetic hormones- which are synthetic clones already, then you are talking absolute rubbish.

[~UN_$ung~]

so you are saying that the actual drugs are different now?
if they are, what is it about them?...not the same concentration?, not what's on the sticker?
i dont get your statement...its not like building products where you can get an inferior quality . a drug is a drug.
the only possibility is to get some dodgy ones that arent clean. and they are easy to spot as you get sick from them.
so unless the chinese have come up with some way to develop ultra cheap clones of synthetic hormones- which are synthetic clones already, then you are talking absolute rubbish.

a drug isnt a drug.............anyone who has ever smoked high end hydroponic weed, then smoked shake garbage can tell you their is a big difference


or done shitty, stepped on coke..........compared to pure shit, or expensive liquor  and bathtub pruno


i agree, a chemical is either the chemical its supposed to be.,or its not.................but there is just a lot of variation in cheeply made shit, and i dont see how homebrew gear is any different


underdosed, unclean, whatever................ maybe im wrong, but i just think the quality shows in the phgysiques

[Cableguy]

PLENTY of size without the stupid GH guts...and the gyno is fixable. What the fuck happened?

And too bad about Edgar Fletcher. Turned out to be another Matt Mendenhall. It's a shame both never reached their true potential.

[Van_Bilderass]

Shit quality gear as well as "fake size" from enormous insulin and GH use.

[wes]

They actually suffered when they dieted then

And,trained their asses off to boot.

[Cableguy]

Look at Jay. Reasonably small waist. and no wrinkles in his lower back...

[Nasty Nate]

Is that Chris Aceto in the start of the first vid? I guess I dont know much about his competitive career, looked great.

[Cableguy]

I remember seeing Chris' profile in an old Muscle Mag years ago when he was still in Maine living with his parents, lol!

[Cableguy]

I'd rather see someone at say, 5'9 and 240 lbs. ripped to the bone with great proportions, great muscle seperation and detail, and a small, tight waist. Instead, today you'll see the same guy at 270 lbs. with a big GH gut looking like a ripped WWE wrestler...sad...

[Marty Champions]

wiggs when will you give vegetarianism a shot so you can be a master?

[Meso_z]

Damn.....take one guy from those lineups and put him on todays NPC Nationals contests and he would turn pro..

[Wiggs]

Damn.....take one guy from those lineups and put him on todays NPC Nationals contests and he would turn pro..

Hell yes..I dare say if someone with reasonably good genetics for size and gear response trained and "geared" the way these guys did back then with what they used (whatever is still around) would attain similar results and shock alot of people...They'll never win the Arnold or O but the fan base would be huge and they could take their niche and make some decent money from it...Edgar Fletcher here makes narrow Phil look like a joke today....

[Stavios]

holly shit at titus, fletcher, ingram and prince