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Despite 40-year sentence, Khadr likely to go home in a year
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By Carol Rosenberg | Miami Herald



GUANTANAMO BAY NAVY BASE, Cuba — A military jury on Sunday gave teen terrorist Omar Khadr a 40-year prison sentence for killing an American commando in Afghanistan, but the sentence was merely symbolic — the United States already had agreed to limit Khadr's prison time to eight years, and Canada last week said it would allow Khadr to serve the bulk of his sentence there.

Canada had been cagey in public about its agreement to the deal, under which Khadr pleaded guilty to war crimes. But the military judge at Khadr's trial on Sunday released an exchange of diplomatic notes between the U.S. and Canadian governments that included Canada's assertion that it "is inclined to favourably consider Mr. Khadr's application to be transferred to Canada to serve the remainder of his sentence'' or whichever portion Canada's National Parole Board decides is required.

The note was signed by the Canadian Embassy on Oct. 23, with no name attached.

That agreement will allow Khadr to be released from prison by age 32, if not earlier under Canadian parole provisions.

Khadr, 24, looked straight ahead when the jury foreman announced the 40-year sentence. The widow of his victim, Tabitha Speer, 40, cheered "yes," and then wept.

"He will forever be a murderer my eyes,'' Speer said.

The 40-year sentence, even though it will never be enforced, provided a sense of finality, she said -- along with assurances that Khadr would never be allowed to enter the United States or ride on an airplane.

The seven-officer jury was unaware that Khadr's sentence had already been set before they began deliberating Saturday.

Jurors were told only that Guantánamo's youngest captive had pleaded guilty to five war crimes, including hurling the grenade that mortally wounded Sgt. 1st Class Christopher Speer, 28, during a July 2002 assault on an al Qaeda compound. Khadr was 15.

The prosecution sought a 25-year sentence. Defense lawyers recommended repatriation.

In a rebuke, the jury said he should be imprisoned until age 64.

The Toronto-born Khadr also admitted that, in the days ahead of his capture, he planted mines intended to maim or kill U.S. and allied forces. He was captured near dead, treated by U.S. forces and sent to Guantánamo soon after his 16th birthday.

The Pentagon's Chief War Crimes Prosecutor, Navy Capt. John F. Murphy, said he made the eight-year plea deal with Khadr to secure the certainty of a conviction for the victims of the so-called "child-soldier.''

He cited Khadr's youth at the time of the crime, calling him a "minor.''

"I hope he will be rehabilitated in the future,'' said Murphy.

Khadr's military judge, Army Col. Patrick Parrish, made the plea agreement public moments after the jury was led from the hilltop tribunal chamber on Sunday at about 5 p.m.

The jury deliberated for five hours Saturday, broke for the night, and resumed Sunday afternoon after church services at Guantánamo. While they deliberated, a guard raised and then lowered a flag belonging to an unidentified family member of one of Khadr's victims, a traditional military souvenir from a historic place or time.

Khadr, raised in a militant Muslim family between a suburb of Toronto and Afghanistan, is Guantánamo's last Western-born detainee among the 174 held here. Critics had said he should have been afforded the protections of "child soldier'' and given rehabilitation rather than spend a third of his life at Guantánamo.

Former Army Sgt. Layne Morris, who lost an eye in the firefight that captured Khadr, said he was concerned that an eight-year sentence put the Canadian "on frankly the fast-track to freedom'' and "the prime of his life.' '

Khadr's Canadian attorney, Dennis Edney, lambasted the military commissions process, which has so far yielded five convictions, three through plea bargain.

"We may choose to believe that through his plea Omar finally came clean and accepted his involvement in a firefight when he was 15 years of age,'' he said, "or that this was one final coerced confession from a victimized young man who was in the wrong place at the wrong time because his father placed him there.''

As a convicted war criminal, Khadr was to be moved Sunday night to a single cell in a maximum security lockup where the prison camp staff segregates its convicts.

He had spent the last two years in Guantánamo's most relaxed camp, sleeping at night in a bunkhouse with four other captives and by day praying and dining with at least a dozen at a time.

The Pentagon's Chief Defense Counsel, Marine Col. Jeffrey Colwell, said Khadr's coming harsh conditions are "outweighed by the fact that he knows he's going home.''

"There's closure here today,'' the Marine said, adding that Khadr's 40-year jury sentence "was hard for our team to swallow.''

All the jurors refused through a Pentagon spokeswoman to speak to the 19 members of the news media on the base for more than a week to report the story.

Amnesty International Canada's secretary general called the sentence the latest ``fiasco'' in the Khadr case.

"It comes as no surprise that the sentencing phase and this stunningly punitive jury decision has so starkly highlighted the injustices of this process,'' said Alex Neve, who had been a war court observer.

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There was ana greement between the govts and they told him what to do.  

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Re: Obama Admn F%^&ing sucks! Reduces KHADRs' sentence from 40 to 8 years!
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2010, 09:38:53 AM »
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AND YOU STUPID ASSHOLES ON THE LEFT WONDER WHY THE MAJORITY OF THIS NATION NOW DESPISES OBAMA AND THE FAR LEFT? 

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Re: Obama Admn F%^&ing sucks! Reduces KHADRs' sentence from 40 to 8 years!
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2010, 09:47:13 AM »

Khadr will move to maximum security
Last Updated: Monday, November 1, 2010 | 11:32 AM ET Comments171Recommend59.
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Omar Khadr will spend his remaining year in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in the highest-security section of the detention facility.

Khadr was sentenced to 40 years in prison for war crimes Sunday, but the decision by a U.S. military panel was largely symbolic.

In this Pentagon-approved sketch by artist Janet Hamlin, Omar Khadr listens to closing arguments Saturday in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. (Canadian Press)
A pretrial plea deal capped Khadr's sentence at eight years, with the first year to be served at the naval base detention centre.

CBC's Laurie Graham says Toronto-born Khadr, 24, has been staying in a section of the prison where inmates tend to be compliant.

"He, as part of this deal, will go to a different camp, which is maximum-security," she told CBC News Network. "There's been a lot of difficulties there. Some infighting, aggression.... And he will be surrounded by more aggressive inmates."

The Canadian Embassy said in a memo dated Oct. 23 the Canadian government "is inclined to favourably consider" a request for a transfer to Canada for Khadr to serve the rest of his sentence after another year at Guantanamo.

Khadr is not allowed to fly into U.S. airspace, according to the plea deal, Graham said.

Once in Canada, he'll be subject to normal Canadian laws and will be able to apply for parole after serving one-third of his sentence.

Khadr will not be able to profit from his story.

"If he writes a book, any profit, any money made, will go back to the Canadian government," she said.

U.S. military prosecutors had called Khadr a radical jihadist, but U.S. Navy Capt. John Murphy softened his tone when he was asked whether Khadr will pose a threat when he's eventually set free in Canada.

"By returning him to his own country within a year, that presents the best prospects for his rehabilitation," he said.

Dennis Edney, Khadr's Canadian lawyer, says that when he is released Khadr will not live with his Toronto family members, who have openly supported al-Qaeda.

"He's not a radical jihadist," he said. "He's a victim. He's a victim of his family, his father, adults, and he's a victim of this system."


Khadr pleaded guilty to five charges brought by the U.S. military, including killing Sgt. 1st Class Christopher Speer in Afghanistan in July 2002 when he was 15 years old. He has been in custody since then.


Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/11/01/omar-khadr-plea-deal.html#ixzz143AMedl9


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Re: Obama Admn F%^&ing sucks! Reduces KHADRs' sentence from 40 to 8 years!
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2010, 09:54:37 AM »
Yeah, he's a victim.  ::)

The contempt for American citizens and open love-fest for Muslim terrorists displayed by this administration never ceases to amaze me. I won't be surprised to see KSM getting off, either.

What these articles don't mention is that Khadr has become even more radicalized in Guantanamo and is now considered a spiritual leader for many of the jihadists in there. But hey, let's let him out!  ::)

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Re: Obama Admn F%^&ing sucks! Reduces KHADRs' sentence from 40 to 8 years!
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2010, 09:56:59 AM »
Yeah, he's a victim.  ::)

This contempt for American citizens and open love-fest for Muslim terrorists displayed by this administration never ceases to amaze me. I won't be surprised to see KSM getting off, either.

What these articles don't mention is that Khadr has become even more radicalized in Guantanamo and is now considered a spiritual leader for many of the jihadists in there. But hey, let's let him out!  ::)

Letting this savage out is going to cost more lives in the future and Obama Admn knows it.  Yet they are allowing this beast to get out when they could have let him sit in jail for 40 years. 

Unreal. 

 

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Re: Obama Admn F%^&ing sucks! Reduces KHADRs' sentence from 40 to 8 years!
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2010, 09:58:01 AM »
Obama personally did this

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Re: Obama Admn F%^&ing sucks! Reduces KHADRs' sentence from 40 to 8 years!
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2010, 09:58:04 AM »
Letting this savage out is going to cost more lives in the future and Obama Admn knows it.  Yet they are allowing this beast to get out when they could have let him sit in jail for 40 years.  

Unreal.  

 

He's a victim, man.  ::)

Obama personally did this

If you don't think he had his fingers involved in it, then you're a fool. Or do you think lowly DoJ lawyers handle matters regarding the terrorists still at Guantanamo?

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Re: Obama Admn F%^&ing sucks! Reduces KHADRs' sentence from 40 to 8 years!
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2010, 10:01:49 AM »
Obama personally did this

Yes.   Same as KSM, same as the Cole Bomber, same as Black panther case, etc etc.   

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Re: Obama Admn F%^&ing sucks! Reduces KHADRs' sentence from 40 to 8 years!
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2010, 10:04:38 AM »

If you don't think he had his fingers involved in it, then you're a fool. Or do you think lowly DoJ lawyers handle matters regarding the terrorists still at Guantanamo?


Right and if he overturned it you would say some shit like "obama oversteping his power.." come on..he is in a no win situation

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Re: Obama Admn F%^&ing sucks! Reduces KHADRs' sentence from 40 to 8 years!
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2010, 10:05:27 AM »
Right and if he overturned it you would say some shit like "obama oversteping his power.." come on..he is in a no win situation

No, I wouldn't. I've actually voiced my support for Obama increasing the CIA drone attacks in Pakistan and I'd support him throwing this douche bag in prison for the rest of his life.

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Re: Obama Admn F%^&ing sucks! Reduces KHADRs' sentence from 40 to 8 years!
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2010, 10:07:02 AM »
Right and if he overturned it you would say some shit like "obama oversteping his power.." come on..he is in a no win situation

No - they should have not made a farce of the process and let the jury decision stand.  imagine sitting on a jury and going through all that only to find out the end result was pre-ordained regardless? 

 

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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2010, 10:07:16 AM »
Yes.   Same as KSM, same as the Cole Bomber, same as Black panther case, etc etc.   

Yes... Obama sent a letter and said get him off...it weas all him...Fuckin retarded...learn the justice system Esq.

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Re: Obama Admn F%^&ing sucks! Reduces KHADRs' sentence from 40 to 8 years!
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2010, 10:11:51 AM »
No - they should have not made a farce of the process and let the jury decision stand.  imagine sitting on a jury and going through all that only to find out the end result was pre-ordained regardless? 

 

And Barak Obama Physically had this case come accross his desk and he overode everyone and made the decision...you

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Re: Obama Admn F%^&ing sucks! Reduces KHADRs' sentence from 40 to 8 years!
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2010, 10:22:47 AM »
Yes... Obama sent a letter and said get him off...it weas all him...Fuckin retarded...learn the justice system Esq.

 ::)  ::)

Mal - is this you? 


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Re: Obama Admn F%^&ing sucks! Reduces KHADRs' sentence from 40 to 8 years!
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2010, 10:23:55 AM »
And Barak Obama Physically had this case come accross his desk and he overode everyone and made the decision...you

 ::)  ::)

Nothing is ever his fault, nothing ever is his blame, nothing is ever at the feet of hisd admn - its always some ones fault. 

Sounds just like Ray Nagin.   TYPICAL. 

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Re: Obama Admn F%^&ing sucks! Reduces KHADRs' sentence from 40 to 8 years!
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2010, 10:25:35 AM »
::)  ::)

Nothing is ever his fault, nothing ever is his blame, nothing is ever at the feet of hisd admn - its always some ones fault. 

Sounds just like Ray Nagin.   TYPICAL. 

So you think this came accross his desk and he made a decision on it that was inacted?...please give me an answer

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Re: Obama Admn F%^&ing sucks! Reduces KHADRs' sentence from 40 to 8 years!
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2010, 10:30:24 AM »
So you think this came accross his desk and he made a decision on it that was inacted?...please give me an answer

No, Mal - i think it is sheer coincidence that we have terrorist trials in NYC, KSM trial in NYC, black panthers corruption, the cole bomber on halt, the DOJ completely in disarray, etc etc.   ::)

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Re: Obama Admn F%^&ing sucks! Reduces KHADRs' sentence from 40 to 8 years!
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2010, 10:31:43 AM »
No, Mal - i think it is sheer coincidence that we have terrorist trials in NYC, KSM trial in NYC, black panthers corruption, the cole bomber on halt, the DOJ completely in disarray, etc etc.   ::)

So you think obama personally has his finger on it...lmao



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Re: Obama Admn F%^&ing sucks! Reduces KHADRs' sentence from 40 to 8 years!
« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2010, 10:32:45 AM »
So you think obama personally has his finger on it...lmao




Yes.   

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Re: Obama Admn F%^&ing sucks! Reduces KHADRs' sentence from 40 to 8 years!
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2010, 10:34:24 AM »
lmao...you rock...

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Re: Obama Admn F%^&ing sucks! Reduces KHADRs' sentence from 40 to 8 years!
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2010, 10:39:04 AM »
lmao...you rock...

Sorry - Mal - the Buck stops with obama.  that is what he told me. 

 

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« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2010, 10:42:14 AM »
Sorry - Mal - the Buck stops with obama.  that is what he told me. 

 

fully...god damn i just got a flat tire...damn obama in bed with goodyear...scamed so i can buy more tires.."DAMN YOU OBAMAAAAAAAAAAA"

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Re: Obama Admn F%^&ing sucks! Reduces KHADRs' sentence from 40 to 8 years!
« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2010, 10:49:50 AM »
More deflection - its amazing to me how you far leftists still are so utterly clueless as to why the dems are finished after tommorow. 

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Re: Obama Admn F%^&ing sucks! Reduces KHADRs' sentence from 40 to 8 years!
« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2010, 11:00:54 AM »
From my understanding of this - Canada's current government are only looking at repatriation as a concession to America.  They do not actually want him back and have publicly stated they don't have anything to do with his sentence or plea deal.  They didn't even ask for repatriation when he was arrested unlike GB and Australia.  As for the plea deal it's pretty sh*ty if he gets sent back to Canada he will walk free pretty much immediately.  The plea however has little to do with Obama and saying so is pretty weak.  The case against him wasn't the strongest despite what has been put out there, and getting a plea which included a sentence, confession, and him saying he will not be able to take legal action against the united states is a win.

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Re: Obama Admn F%^&ing sucks! Reduces KHADRs' sentence from 40 to 8 years!
« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2010, 07:11:25 PM »
So you think obama personally has his finger on it...lmao






  The plea however has little to do with Obama and saying so is pretty weak. 




IDK if Barry had his hand in this or not, but acting like it's beyond possible is just more liberal ignorance.  The DOJ is a cabinet level position.  As such, Holder isn't briefing Obama about some low level crime.  He's being briefed on high level and politically sensitive issues.  This issue is very politically sensitive and there is no reason to think that Obama is not part of the decision making process.

For those not bright enough to figure it out - that does not mean every decision is being made by Obama.  But political hot-topics are always on the agenda, especially when the POTUS made this issue a central theme in his campaign.