Pride Legend Believes Cain Would Beat Fedor

[MindSpin]

"As the date hasn’t been set, it’s just a verbal agreement, so I’m getting back to light training. But I want to have a good performance. Who knows? Maybe I’ll manage a return to the UFC. I feel really comfortable fighting in that Octagon. I feel leaving there was the biggest mistake of my career, my great regret."

"I left on my own volition (end of 2003), but at that time I felt stagnant and the big heavyweight challenges were in Japan. I always went after the toughest matches, so I had to face the guys in Pride. What to do? It didn’t work out. But today, with Cain Velasquez as champion, the UFC is really well represented. I feel Cain could even take out Fedor Emelianenko."

Great Quote from Pedro Rizzo

[suckmymuscle]

"As the date hasn’t been set, it’s just a verbal agreement, so I’m getting back to light training. But I want to have a good performance. Who knows? Maybe I’ll manage a return to the UFC. I feel really comfortable fighting in that Octagon. I feel leaving there was the biggest mistake of my career, my great regret."

"I left on my own volition (end of 2003), but at that time I felt stagnant and the big heavyweight challenges were in Japan. I always went after the toughest matches, so I had to face the guys in Pride. What to do? It didn’t work out. But today, with Cain Velasquez as champion, the UFC is really well represented. I feel Cain could even take out Fedor Emelianenko."

Great Quote from Pedro Rizzo

  The key word here is "even". Rizzo is clearly saying that Fedor is an incredible fighter, obviously saying that taking out Fedor is not an easy chore but that Velasquez si so good that he might do it. Nice sellf-ownage. Even if Fedor is not the best today, Rizzo is clearly implying that he is still one of the top.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[MindSpin]

Bwahahahhahha! There is a shitload of speculating and just plain bull shit. Just read the quote genius. Pedro believes that Cain would beat Fedor. That's it. Plain and simple. Lol.

[suckmymuscle]

Bwahahahhahha! There is a shitload of speculating and just plain bull shit. Just read the quote genius. Pedro believes that Cain would beat Fedor. That's it. Plain and simple. Lol.

  Why does he use the expression "even Fedor", dumbass? He is clearly implying that Fedor is a great fighter and that Cain is so awesome that he might "even" beat Fedor. Simple understanding of the English language.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[MindSpin]

  Why does he use the expression "even Fedor", dumbass? He is clearly implying that Fedor is a great fighter and that Cain is so awesome that he might "even" beat Fedor. Simple understanding of the English language.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Most believe Fedor is great.  I Never disputed that.  What I have said, is that his record is inflated, he is not the best ever and he is not the best today.

[suckmymuscle]

Most believe Fedor is great.  I Never disputed that.  What I have said, is that his record is inflated, he is not the best ever and he is not the best today.

  No, most believe is that Fedor is the greatest ever. Even Anderson Silva recently said that Fedor is still the greatest heavyweight in the World in his opinion. I will search it and post the link. Randy Couture said that Fedor is the greatest fighter ever in all categories and he said that right after Fedor's loss to Fabricio Werdum. Mr.UFC, GSP, said that Fedor is the greatest in the World pound-for-pound. Former PRIDE champion and current UFC light-heavyweight champion, Shogun, said that no one will ever surpass what Fedor achieved in PRIDE. It must be really painful for an UFC guy like yourself that even your beloved UFC fighters consider Fedor as the greatest ever.

  Oh, and Mindspin, if Fedor is not the greatest ever, then who is? The only two that come to mind that rival Fedor in terms of record of achievements are Couture(UFC light-heavyweight and heavyweight belt winner) and Nogueira(the only man to ever hold both the PRIDE and UFC heavyweight belts). I cannot think of any other fighters that could match Fedor as far as candidates for greatest of all times. Both Anderson as well as GSP have won less fights and titles than Fedor and have far more losses. llololololol.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[MindSpin]

  No, most believe is that Fedor is the greatest ever. Even Anderson Silva recently said that Fedor is still the greatest heavyweight in the World in his opinion. I will search it and post the link. Randy Couture said that Fedor is the greatest fighter ever in all categories and he said that right after Fedor's loss to Fabricio Werdum. Mr.UFC, GSP, said that Fedor is the greatest in the World pound-for-pound. Former PRIDE champion and current UFC light-heavyweight champion, Shogun, said that no one will ever surpass what Fedor achieved in PRIDE. It must be really painful for an UFC guy like yourself that even your beloved UFC fighters consider Fedor as the greatest ever.

  Oh, and Mindspin, if Fedor is not the greatest ever, then who is? The only two that come to mind that rival Fedor in terms of record of achievements are Couture(UFC light-heavyweight and heavyweight belt winner) and Nogueira(the only man to ever hold both the PRIDE and UFC heavyweight belts). I cannot think of any other fighters that could match Fedor as far as candidates for greatest of all times. Both Anderson as well as GSP have won less fights and titles than Fedor and have far more losses. llololololol.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

You keep going back to Fedor's record and using it as "proof" that he is the greatest ever, and I keep reminding you that MOST of his wins are over total tomato cans.  Yes, for a 3 year period, he dominated the best heavyweight division in all of MMA.  But, it was 10 years ago. 

[Fury]

There have been countless articles written proving that no one has even come close to fighting the quality of competition that Fedor has. Mindspin, Dana White's personal ball waxer, has built his entire argument around a handful of fights that fighters 5-10 years past their prime have fought in. Brilliant logic, Sherlock. 

[MindSpin]

There have been countless articles written proving that no one has even come close to fighting the quality of competition that Fedor has. Mindspin, Dana White's personal ball waxer, has built his entire argument around a handful of fights that fighters 5-10 years past their prime have fought in. Brilliant logic, Sherlock. 

All you have to do is look at his record.  It's there for anyone to see.  MOST of his wins are over guys with more losses on the records than wins, or over guys with less than 5 fights.  That is an indisputable fact.

[suckmymuscle]

All you have to do is look at his record.  It's there for anyone to see.  MOST of his wins are over guys with more losses on the records than wins, or over guys with less than 5 fights.  That is an indisputable fact.

  Right. But take into consideration that half of his 32 professional wins were not over cans but over legitimate top heavyweights. That still gives him more legitimate wins than any current UFC heavyweight. So I repeat my question, MinsSpin, if Fedor is not the greatest heavyweight ever, then who is? Randy? Nog?

  And my point was not his record, but that pretty much all of your beloved UFC champs with only one or so exception regards him as the greatest ever. This is a very well-known fact. Why don't you address this?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Fury]

All you have to do is look at his record.  It's there for anyone to see.  MOST of his wins are over guys with more losses on the records than wins, or over guys with less than 5 fights.  That is an indisputable fact.

I'd ask you to show me a HW (or any of the other UFC fighters whose nuts you worship) with a better record but the last five times I've done that have resulted in you ignoring the question so I won't even bother.

[MindSpin]

I'd ask you to show me a HW (or any of the other UFC fighters whose nuts you worship) with a better record but the last five times I've done that have resulted in you ignoring the question so I won't even bother.

Anyone whose got more than 4-5 fights against legit competition

[kevcat]

You keep going back to Fedor's record and using it as "proof" that he is the greatest ever, and I keep reminding you that MOST of his wins are over total tomato cans.  Yes, for a 3 year period, he dominated the best heavyweight division in all of MMA.  But, it was 10 years ago. 

So you can get into MMA organizations if you cant fight, just so Fedor gets some wins? ( tomato cans as u say )

[Fury]

Anyone whose got more than 4-5 fights against legit competition

There you go not naming names again. Thanks for playing. Can't say I'm surprised given that you're the same clown that spent the better part of a year blowing Brock Lesnar and how "skilled" he was. LOL!

[*ChuteBoxe*]

Anyone whose got more than 4-5 fights against legit competition

You said that about Brock, how's that working out?

[MindSpin]

You said that about Brock, how's that working out?

I said what about Brock?  That he has 4-5 wins over legit competition?  That's not true at all.  Please show me where I said that.  And, just because Brock has a loss, doesn't mean shit.  When consistently fight the best, you lose sooner or later.  Having a flawless record is not the way to measure who the greatest ever is.

[George Whorewell]

MS you are such a hypocrite and braindead UFC apologist, that you contradict your contradictions with more contradictions. Your using a quote from a Pride fighter which (taken liberally) gives props to Cain and in no way implies he would obviously beat Fedor. You just misconstrued the quote so you have a leg to stand on when your getting abused for calling Brock Lesnar the number 1 HW in the world prior to the Velasquez fight. You also conveniently ignore the fact that Suck, myself and others have posted dozens of quotes from former Pride legends, current UFC fighters and commentators of every ilk that have bent over backwards to say Fedor is, was and will always be (until further notice) the greatest MMA fighter of all time. Now all of a sudden, you give a shit about what someone who used to fight in Pride thinks?

Brilliant logic and quite consistent with your mental illness regarding Fedor.

Next, lets address your last post, which is very confusing to anyone who tries to understand your position regarding the HW division. You went from saying Brock had fought better competition than Fedor, to backtracking now saying he has 4-5 wins over legit competition. Legit competition? He is 1-1 against Frank Mir, 1-0 against Shane Carwin and 0-1 against Cain Velasquez. If you multiplied his 2 wins against "legit competition" by 10, he still comes up extremely short to Fedors record against "legit competition" by any sane persons standards.

I could go on, but your a joke. I don't even understand why anyone here even responds to you regarding MMA anymore.  Ask Suck to post that Velasquez interview where he considers Fedor to be the best HW in the world. Try to spin that into a "who cares, Velasquez doesn't know about fighting" argument.

[MindSpin]

MS you are such a hypocrite and braindead UFC apologist, that you contradict your contradictions with more contradictions. Your using a quote from a Pride fighter which (taken liberally) gives props to Cain and in no way implies he would obviously beat Fedor. You just misconstrued the quote so you have a leg to stand on when your getting abused for calling Brock Lesnar the number 1 HW in the world prior to the Velasquez fight. You also conveniently ignore the fact that Suck, myself and others have posted dozens of quotes from former Pride legends, current UFC fighters and commentators of every ilk that have bent over backwards to say Fedor is, was and will always be (until further notice) the greatest MMA fighter of all time. Now all of a sudden, you give a shit about what someone who used to fight in Pride thinks?

Brilliant logic and quite consistent with your mental illness regarding Fedor.

Next, lets address your last post, which is very confusing to anyone who tries to understand your position regarding the HW division. You went from saying Brock had fought better competition than Fedor, to backtracking now saying he has 4-5 wins over legit competition. Legit competition? He is 1-1 against Frank Mir, 1-0 against Shane Carwin and 0-1 against Cain Velasquez. If you multiplied his 2 wins against "legit competition" by 10, he still comes up extremely short to Fedors record against "legit competition" by any sane persons standards.

I could go on, but your a joke. I don't even understand why anyone here even responds to you regarding MMA anymore.  Ask Suck to post that Velasquez interview where he considers Fedor to be the best HW in the world. Try to spin that into a "who cares, Velasquez doesn't know about fighting" argument.

Please point out where I said that Brock had fought better competition than Fedor (this ought to be good)

Oh, and you care enough about this to write a full page post about it?  LOL.  Talk about self pwnage...lol.

[Earl1972]

pedro rizzo a pride legend

you just outed yourself as a tuf noob

E

[*ChuteBoxe*]

pedro rizzo a pride legend

you just outed yourself as a tuf noob

E

Lol, I agree.  I wasn't aware that getting destroyed in the first round 2 times in Pride makes you a "Pride Legend".  Maybe he can beat Fedor?  He's a legend right?  Brutal example of "Bluto style" copy and paste with out reading the content

[MindSpin]

Lol, I agree.  I wasn't aware that getting destroyed in the first round 2 times in Pride makes you a "Pride Legend".  Maybe he can beat Fedor?  He's a legend right?  Brutal example of "Bluto style" copy and paste with out reading the content

I didn't copy/paste the title of the thread.  Compared to most of the cans that Fedor has fought, Pedro is a "legend"

[suckmymuscle]

I didn't copy/paste the title of the thread.  Compared to most of the cans that Fedor has fought, Pedro is a "legend"

  You truly are one stupid son of a gun. You should off yourself, dude.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[MindSpin]

  You truly are one stupid son of a gun. You should off yourself, dude.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

I'm stupid because I disagree with you on MMA related topics?  And, I should kill myself?  LOL!  Bro, you have no idea the kind of life I live.  The only thing that bums me out is that one day I'll die.  Oh well, in the meantime, I go about my day with a big fucking smile on my face, because life is just too good

[suckmymuscle]

I'm stupid because I disagree with you on MMA related topics?  And, I should kill myself?  LOL!  Bro, you have no idea the kind of life I live.  The only thing that bums me out is that one day I'll die.  Oh well, in the meantime, I go about my day with a big fucking smile on my face, because life is just too good

  Another internet MMA warrior, billionaire who engages in orgies with supermodels. Typical.

  And I am still waiting for you to tell me who, if it isn't Fedor, is the greatest MMA fighter ever.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[AC Slater]

cockspin owned again.

que weightpshr to come defend him