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No Taxation Without Representation
« on: November 03, 2010, 11:46:57 AM »
I'm having a problem with this..Every year as Americans we see new taxes. However, i don't recall actually agreeing to pay these bills or anything like that..

For example on your cell Phone.  Every year the amount of Taxes increase. However, never have i gotten a phone call from anyone asking me if i agreed with the new tax etc..i registrations
a motor vehicle the the other day, there another extra few dollars due to taxes on the registration, extra environmental (emissions) charges, etc.


Taxation Without Representation is defined as,

A situation in which a government imposes taxes on a particular group of its citizens, despite the citizens not consenting or having an actual representative deliver their views when the taxation decision was made. This situation was one of the triggering events that triggered the original thirteen American colonies to revolt against the British Empire.

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Re: No Taxation Without Representation
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2010, 11:50:26 AM »
I go the other way - NO REPRESENATION WITHOUT TAXATION 


If you don't pay taxes - you should not be able to vote - period. 

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Re: No Taxation Without Representation
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2010, 11:54:58 AM »
I go the other way - NO REPRESENATION WITHOUT TAXATION  


If you don't pay taxes - you should not be able to vote - period.  

I agree with that 100%. We definitely shouldn't have such a high percentage of people not paying taxes as we do in the united states.

However, they keep creating new Taxes every day.  I got an Oil change today, and there an environmental tax on there.? ???

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Re: No Taxation Without Representation
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2010, 12:03:40 PM »
Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
Capital Gains Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Court Fines (indirect taxes)
Deficit spending
Dog License Tax
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel permit tax
Gasoline Tax
Hunting License Tax
Inflation
Inheritance Tax Interest expense (tax on the money)
Inventory tax IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax)
IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Local Income Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Septic Permit Tax
Service Charge Taxes
Social Security Tax
Road Usage Taxes (Truckers)
Sales Taxes
Recreational Vehicle Tax
Road Toll Booth Taxes
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone federal excise tax
Telephone federal universal service fee tax
Telephone federal, state and local surcharge taxes
Telephone minimum usage surcharge tax
Telephone recurring and non-recurring charges tax
Telephone state and local tax
Telephone usage charge tax
Toll Bridge Taxes
Toll Tunnel Taxes
Traffic Fines (indirect taxation)
Trailer Registration Tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax

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Re: No Taxation Without Representation
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2010, 12:04:45 PM »
Ha ha ha ha - preaching to the choir. 

the far left says we are under taxed.   ::)  ::)

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Re: No Taxation Without Representation
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2010, 12:11:19 PM »
Ha ha ha ha - preaching to the choir. 

the far left says we are under taxed.   ::)  ::)

I just don't feel like i'm being represented man. I should be allowed to not have to pay taxes.

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Re: No Taxation Without Representation
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2010, 12:12:05 PM »
I just don't feel like i'm being represented man. I should be allowed to not have to pay taxes.

You are preaching to the choir.   

We are TAXEd to death, literally. 

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Re: No Taxation Without Representation
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2010, 12:16:38 PM »
You are preaching to the choir.  

We are TAXEd to death, literally.  

Yes, we are....

Dude, you know how much property taxes i paid for about 1600 acres of Land in Span/Portugal...The land was inherited..

Let's just say that i sent my contact there 200 bucks, and he took care of the bill..

my dad always sent him 100 bucks to pay the bill, so i doubled it.

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Re: No Taxation Without Representation
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2010, 12:18:10 PM »
Yes, we are....

Dude, you know how much property taxes i paid for about 1600 acres of Land in Span/Portugal...The land was inherited..

Let's just say that i sent my contact there 200 bucks, and he took care of the bill..

My GF parents pay 30k a year in New Rochelle, N.Y. 

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Re: No Taxation Without Representation
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2010, 12:20:26 PM »
My GF parents pay 30k a year in New Rochelle, N.Y.  

My sister pays $27,500 or something like that In Easton, CT, for a little over 5 acres. When do you really ever own these properties?

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Re: No Taxation Without Representation
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2010, 12:22:50 PM »
My sister pays $27,500 or something like that In Easton, CT, for a little over 5 acres. When do you really ever own these properties?

did you ever see the thread with Straw and myself on this issue? 

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Re: No Taxation Without Representation
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2010, 12:25:05 PM »
I don't have a problem with taxes.  They are an essential part of living in a society. 
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Re: No Taxation Without Representation
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2010, 12:28:57 PM »
I don't have a problem with taxes.  They are an essential part of living in a society. 

Not if the government just flushes the money into a toilet like the trillion dollars they spent on the stimulus.

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Re: No Taxation Without Representation
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2010, 12:29:52 PM »
I don't have a problem with taxes.  They are an essential part of living in a society.  


After the banker bailouts to the zombie banks, that statement is no longer truth.  The zombie banks lose more money than there is in existence in 2008, and still manage receive bonuses...Losses became Socialized..However, these companies profits didn't.

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Re: No Taxation Without Representation
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2010, 12:30:54 PM »

After the banker bailouts to the zombie banks, that statement is no longer truth.  The zombie banks lose more money than there is in existence in 2008, and still mange receive bonuses...

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Re: No Taxation Without Representation
« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2010, 12:39:20 PM »
Not if the government just flushes the money into a toilet like the trillion dollars they spent on the stimulus.

I agree the stimulus wasn't as effective as it could have been, had they done what was needed - get more money. 
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Re: No Taxation Without Representation
« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2010, 12:47:59 PM »


Supposedly when we print money there will be inflation, perhaps hyperinflation if we go crazy..The money already in existence will lose value.

This is what they taught me would happen if an economies central bank printed money..

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Re: No Taxation Without Representation
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2010, 12:52:03 PM »
Supposedly when we print money there will be inflation, perhaps hyperinflation if we go crazy..The money already in existence will lose value.

This is what they taught me would happen if an economies central bank printed money..

I have spoken and posted about this for months on end to anyone who will listen.