Lame Duck Congress

[Straw Man]

As usual you insult me for no reason,I said nothing about you but as I said they had to let these expire because of democrats.Here is the explanation you stupid fucking lib idiot.

One of the most notable characteristics of EGTRRA is that its provisions are designed to sunset, or revert to the provisions that were in effect before it was passed. EGTRRA will sunset on January 1, 2011 unless further legislation is enacted to make its changes permanent. The sunset provision sidesteps the Byrd Rule, a Senate rule that amends the Congressional Budget Act to allow Senators to block a piece of legislation if it purports to significantly increase the federal deficit beyond a ten-year term. The sunset allowed the bill to stay within the letter of the PAYGO law while removing nearly $700 billion from amounts that would have triggered PAYGO sequestration.

Do you now understand you fucking dunce?Because of the Robert KKK Byrdd rule,the republicans HAD to let it expire to avoid breaking the Byrd rule and it allowed the bill to stay in the PAYGO law.So,keep insulting me ,but do some fucking research before you do.They had to let them expire or sunset to pass it because of left wing lib idiots like Robert KKK Byrd.

exactly what I said in the first place and what you called a total lie and lib revisionist history

[BM OUT]

exactly what I said in the first place and what you called a total lie and lib revisionist history

You sticking with that?

"The Repubs designed the Bush Tax cuts to sunset".You mean you didnt try to make it sound like they designed it like that to screw the next president or congress?Come on who are you kidding.Republicans HAD to design it like that.

[Soul Crusher]

exactly what I said in the first place and what you called a total lie and lib revisionist history

Straw - why do you believe the Dems got murdered on Tuesday in areas like PA, VA, OH, WI, MN, etc?  .  

[Straw Man]

Straw - why do you believe the Dems got murdered on Tuesday in areas like PA, VA, OH, WI, MN, etc?  .  

i think it was mostly a classical rebalancing of power and no doubt some disatisfaction with Obama from both Teabagger and Repubs (who already hated him) and Dems/progressives who were unhappy that he didn't follow through on some of his promises or had greater expectations.

I also think a large portion who came out to vote in the presidential election just didn't bother to show up for the mid-terms.   That's kind of the reason why people like O'Donnell won the primary in her state.  The people who would have supported her Republican rival just didn't bother to show up and instead they got a Dem for their laziness

[BM OUT]

i think it was mostly a classical rebalancing of power and no doubt some disatisfaction with Obama from both Teabagger and Repubs (who already hated him) and Dems/progressives who were unhappy that he didn't follow through on some of his promises or had greater expectations.

I also think a large portion who came out to vote in the presidential election just didn't bother to show up for the mid-terms.   That's kind of the reason why people like O'Donnell won the primary in her state.  The people who would have supported her Republican rival just didn't bother to show up and instead they got a Dem for their laziness

How do you explain the incredible shift in women voters and independants?Also,republicans picked up 680 seats in state houses[another record],if all elections are local,how do you explain that?

By the way,your wrIGHT on ODonnell.Reid DESTROYED ODonnells opponent in the primary.He started his dirty attack ads way back then.Nevada is a dark blue state.By the time the primary vote came arounf ODonnells opponent was obliterated.

[Soul Crusher]

i think it was mostly a classical rebalancing of power and no doubt some disatisfaction with Obama from both Teabagger and Repubs (who already hated him) and Dems/progressives who were unhappy that he didn't follow through on some of his promises or had greater expectations.

I also think a large portion who came out to vote in the presidential election just didn't bother to show up for the mid-terms.   That's kind of the reason why people like O'Donnell won the primary in her state.  The people who would have supported her Republican rival just didn't bother to show up and instead they got a Dem for their laziness

I agree with you on that but think that unless the economy tuerns around by 2012 - the same dynamic will play out.  People are just not going to be that excited in 2012 as they were in 2008 if the economy is still in the toilet. 

[kcballer]

Let the tax cuts expire for the top bracket, keep it for the lower brackets.  PERIOD.  That is fiscal sensibility. 

[Soul Crusher]

Let the tax cuts expire for the top bracket, keep it for the lower brackets.  PERIOD.  That is fiscal sensibility. 

250k for a married couple is simply not rich in areas like LA, NYC, and CHI.   

[Kazan]

Let the tax cuts expire for the top bracket, keep it for the lower brackets.  PERIOD.  That is fiscal sensibility. 

Why? and How? Since when does the fucking Federal Government get to decide who is and isn't rich? They are the fuckers spending money like its free, why should the tax payer be penalized for zero fiscal responsibility at the federal level.

[BM OUT]

Why? and How? Since when does the fucking Federal Government get to decide who is and isn't rich? They are the fuckers spending money like its free, why should the tax payer be penalized for zero fiscal responsibility at the federal level.

Because liberals think its THEIR money not your money and they get to decide who gets to keep what.

[Option D]

THERE WAS AN GARGANTUAN TSUNAMI EARTHQUAKE OF EPIC PROPORTIONS ARMEGEDDON ON THE DEMS..

[Soul Crusher]

THERE WAS AN GARGANTUAN TSUNAMI EARTHQUAKE OF EPIC PROPORTIONS ARMEGEDDON ON THE DEMS..

Yes it was - and the sooner you realize it the better - Biggest since 1936 in the house and biggest in states since 1966. 

The voters spoke loud and clear - no more marxist crap from a faux messiah. 

[Option D]

Yes it was - and the sooner you realize it the better - Biggest since 1936 in the house and biggest in states since 1966. 

The voters spoke loud and clear - no more marxist crap from a faux messiah. 

in both years what happened to the incumbent pres

[Soul Crusher]

in both years what happened to the incumbent pres

Never 65 seats.   Wake up already - no one is buying the far left agenda any more.  Its over.  Get used to it. 

[Straw Man]

You sticking with that?

"The Repubs designed the Bush Tax cuts to sunset".You mean you didnt try to make it sound like they designed it like that to screw the next president or congress?Come on who are you kidding.Republicans HAD to design it like that.

I know you're a "low rep" kind of guy but you should try working on your attention span

actual fact

you're seriously stupid if you don't know this

Repubs passed the Bush tax cuts with reconciliation and since it increased the deficit the only way to get it through was to have it sunset in 10 years.

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[Option D]

Never 65 seats.   Wake up already - no one is buying the far left agenda any more.  Its over.  Get used to it. 

lmao....you are hilarious

[Soul Crusher]

lmao....you are hilarious

I made a thread before the lection and was off by 1 in the senate and 5 in the house - show me your predictions that were nearly as close. 

[Option D]

I made a thread before the lection and was off by 1 in the senate and 5 in the house - show me your predictions that were nearly as close. 

hahahaha i dont give a shit about predictions...you proud of yourself?

[Soul Crusher]

hahahaha i dont give a shit about predictions...you proud of yourself?

Yeah, alot.   


BBBBOOOOOMMMMMMM  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   

[tonymctones]

THERE DOESNT NEED TO BE ANY TAXES RAISED DURING SUCH A TIME OF ECONOMIC INSTABILITY!!!!!!!

what part of that dont you liberals get?

[Straw Man]

THERE DOESNT NEED TO BE ANY TAXES RAISED DURING SUCH A TIME OF ECONOMIC INSTABILITY!!!!!!!

what part of that dont you liberals get?

the same could be said about cutting taxes during a time of war

[tonymctones]

the same could be said about cutting taxes during a time of war

so 2 wrongs make a right is what youre saying?

I thought obama was the anti republican?

[Straw Man]

so 2 wrongs make a right is what youre saying?

I thought obama was the anti republican?

even at the time when these were passed there wasn't enough support for them so they had to use reconciliation.   At that time we had a budget surplus and (at the time of the first round) weren't yet involved in any wars.

Simple solution would be to keep the cuts for the lower income earners and let the cuts for the higher earners expire.    That would be an example of compromise and I recall Boehner actually said he would be OK with that:

"If the only option I have is to vote for those at 250 and below, of course I'm going to do that. But I'm going to do everything I can to fight to make sure that we extend the current tax rates for all Americans," Boehner told CBS' "Face the Nation."

 http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/12/obama-economic-adviser-afford-tax-cuts-high-end-earners/

[tonymctones]

even at the time when these were passed there wasn't enough support for them so they had to use reconciliation.   At that time we had a budget surplus and (at the time of the first round) weren't yet involved in any wars.

Simple solution would be to keep the cuts for the lower income earners and let the cuts for the higher earners expire.    That would be an example of compromise and I recall Boehner actually said he would be OK with that:


 http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/12/obama-economic-adviser-afford-tax-cuts-high-end-earners/

youre offended by the use of reconciliation to pass tax cuts?

AGAIN YOU DO NOT RAISE TAXES ON ANYONE WITH THE ECONOMY AS UNSTABLE AS IT IS!!!!!!!

[Straw Man]

youre offended by the use of reconciliation to pass tax cuts?
AGAIN YOU DO NOT RAISE TAXES ON ANYONE WITH THE ECONOMY AS UNSTABLE AS IT IS!!!!!!!

didn't say I was offended by it

my point, which I stated, was that there wasn't even enough support for them at a time when we had a budget surplus and no wars