How bad is the UFC HW division?

[Fury]

So bad they're actually hyping up the possibility of Tim Sylvia returning to its ranks. LOL!

[*ChuteBoxe*]

Yep, the winner of the fight between Timmy and "pride legend" Pedro Rizzo is gettin back in supposedly, that says alot.

[coltrane]

Well if Fedor wasn't scared shitless of coming to the UFC and getting pummelled, the UFC wouldn't have to go out and look for cans with inflated records.

[George Whorewell]

True dat. He could just look for can's he already demolished that are currently fighting in the UFC HW divison.

[Fury]

Well if Fedor wasn't scared shitless of coming to the UFC and getting pummelled, the UFC wouldn't have to go out and look for cans with inflated records.

This doesn't even make sense. Why would Fedor come to the UFC to fight cans when Strikeforce has the best HW division in MMA?

[LatsMcGee]

I feel like this is a bad time for the HW division in general,  I don't think any one company has that much better of a roster in that department than any other. 

[coltrane]

This doesn't even make sense. Why would Fedor come to the UFC to fight cans when Strikeforce has the best HW division in MMA?

I know, right?!  Hershal Walker is a stud!   

[suckmymuscle]

  The problem with the UFC heavyweight division is that, with the exception of Nogueira, it has no seasoned vets. All the UFC heavyweights are wet behind their ears and have no credibility because they have faced so little worthy opponents. The current UFC heavyweight title owner has eight professional fights. That doesen't give the title much value. As I see it, heavyweight title competitors should have 25 professional fights under their belt for the title match to have real value ok. If the guy has truly immense talent and gets to challenge the champion after a few fights, then the champion he is facing should have 25+ fights. If the two guys both have 12 fights between them, how do you know that they are really good and how is the guy who wins a worthy heavyweight king for beating a guy who also has only six fights?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Geo]

 The problem with the UFC heavyweight division is that, with the exception of Nogueira, it has no seasoned vets. All the UFC heavyweights are wet behind their ears and have no credibility because they have faced so little worthy opponents. The current UFC heavyweight title owner has eight professional fights. That doesen't give the title much value. As I see it, heavyweight title competitors should have 25 professional fights under their belt for the title match to have real value ok. If the guy has truly immense talent and gets to challenge the champion after a few fights, then the champion he is facing should have 25+ fights. If the two guys both have 12 fights between them, how do you know that they are really good and how is the guy who wins a worthy heavyweight king for beating a guy who also has only six fights?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

I wouldn't wipe my ass with this garbage you're trying to pass off as intelligence kid...

you've pretty much cornered the market on stupid with this one..

[suckmymuscle]

I wouldn't wipe my ass with this garbage you're trying to pass off as intelligence kid...

you've pretty much cornered the market on stupid with this one..

And your opinion matter because?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[chaos]

And your opinion matter because?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

He's Geo, bitch!

[suckmymuscle]

He's Geo, bitch!

  Gota be honest. Since I registered here in 2004 I never saw a post from him. These are the first posts I am reading from this dude.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[chaos]

  Gota be honest. Since I registered here in 2004 I never saw a post from him. These are the first posts I am reading from this dude.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Pull your head out of your ass.

[suckmymuscle]

Pull your head out of your ass.

  Why are you defending him? Are you his bottom bitch or some shit like that?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[chaos]

  Why are you defending him? Are you his bottom bitch or some shit like that?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Yeah, thats it stud........

[MindSpin]

So bad they're actually hyping up the possibility of Tim Sylvia returning to its ranks. LOL!

That's actually a rumor.  Dana White made a statement that neither one of those guys will be back in the UFC.  Nice try.

BTW, the consensus rankings show that the best heavyweights are in fact in the UFC.  And, I'm sure you know this, but if the UFC really wanted any of the heavyweights that Stikeforce has, they could get them, either by outbidding StrikeForce, or by doing what they did to Pride, just buy the whole fucking thing.

LOL...keep trying

[MindSpin]

  Gota be honest. Since I registered here in 2004 I never saw a post from him. These are the first posts I am reading from this dude.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

LMAO!

[Fury]

That's actually a rumor.  Dana White made a statement that neither one of those guys will be back in the UFC.  Nice try.

BTW, the consensus rankings show that the best heavyweights are in fact in the UFC.  And, I'm sure you know this, but if the UFC really wanted any of the heavyweights that Stikeforce has, they could get them, either by outbidding StrikeForce, or by doing what they did to Pride, just buy the whole fucking thing.

LOL...keep trying

This post reads like a UFC press release straight from Dana himself. Disgusting.

[coltrane]

This post reads like a UFC press release straight from Dana himself. Disgusting.

Then get the fuck off this board asshole!  All you do is bring negativity on here, with your UFC this, or UFC that, and the gimmick bs.  Annoying little bitch you are.

[suckmymuscle]

oh fuck are you stupid.

  LOL, I disagree with you. If you read through my posts, you'll see that I am a fairly intelligent person...who are the seasoned vets of the UFC heavyweight division besides Nogueira - defeating Couture doesen't count because he is geriatric? How is a guy the best heavyweight in the World for defeating a guy who was 4-1? Riddle me that?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[coltrane]

 LOL, I disagree with you. If you read through my posts, you'll see that I am a fairly intelligent person...who are the seasoned vets of the UFC heavyweight division besides Nogueira - defeating Couture doesen't count because he is geriatric? How is a guy the best heavyweight in the World for defeating a guy who was 4-1? Riddle me that?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Mir is seasoned!  So are Cain, Carwin and Lesnar.  They've all had tough fights against other seasoned dudes.  I guess this just comes down to one's opinion on what "seasoned" is.

[suckmymuscle]

Mir is seasoned!

  Yeah, because defeating Nog and Crocop on their geriatric years counts as true wins over true heavyweights...
  

So are Cain, Carwin and Lesnar.

  Lesnar is seasoned with a 4-2 record? Cain is seasoned with 8 professional fights?

They've all had tough fights against other seasoned dudes.  I guess this just comes down to one's opinion on what "seasoned" is.

  Yeah, in my opinion defeating Crocop and Nogueira almost 10 years past their primes or a Randy Couture who is almost a quinquagenarian does not make a fighter seasoned. That is just my opinion. Seasoned would be someone like Fedor with 34 professional fights with half of them being against legitimate opponents, or Barnett who has been fighting professionally for 15 years, or Overeem who has been fighting professionally since the days of PRIDE and has been a finalist and semi-finalist in K-1 several times. That is seasoned. Having 5 professional fights winning against a 47 year-old man and a man who's reputation revolves around defeating a man 6 years past his prime and then losing twice does not make you seasoned in my eyes.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[MindSpin]

  LOL, I disagree with you. If you read through my posts, you'll see that I am a fairly intelligent person...who are the seasoned vets of the UFC heavyweight division besides Nogueira - defeating Couture doesen't count because he is geriatric? How is a guy the best heavyweight in the World for defeating a guy who was 4-1? Riddle me that?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Seriously bro?  Are you fukcing with us or are you for real?

[coltrane]

Nog is geriatric?  Dude is like 33 years old bro?

Most fighters, if not all fighters that are good enough talent wise to make it to a big named organization such as the UFC or Strikeforce or WEC are seasoned already.  

To say Frank Mir ISNT seasoned is absurd.  Call him a lousy fighter, etc, but to say he ISN"T seasoned shows you don't know jack about mma.

But by your logic, Nog is elderly..  i forgot.  

[suckmymuscle]

Seriously bro?  Are you fukcing with us or are you for real?

  I am dead serious. The only tested heavyweights in the UFC are Nogueira, Randy and Crocop. A guy with 5 professional fights, two of which were losses, is not a seasoned vet.

SUCKMYMUSCLE