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« on: November 08, 2010, 05:15:46 PM »

this was an email fwd from my friend.. looks legit.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Airline incident Unreported - Last Year (I certainly didn't hear about this - how about you?)
From:
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Please read this chilling report, written with personal info at the bottom
for verification.



I, Gene H............, received this email from my

good friend Tedd Petruna, a diver at the NBL facility [Neutral

Buoyancy Lab], at NASA Houston, whom I used to work with. Tedd

happened to be on this same Flt. 297, Atlanta to Houston.



In my opinion, the Muslims are all getting very brave now.read Tedd's story
below.



PS: Can you imagine, our own news media are now so politically correct that
they are afraid to report that these were all Muslims. unbelievable.



Thank God for people like Tedd Petruna.



One week ago, I went to Ohio on business and

to see my father.. On Tuesday, November the 17th, I returned home.

If you read the papers the 18th you may have seen a blurb where a

AirTran flight was cancelled from Atlanta to Houston due to a man who

refused to get off of his cell phone before takeoff. It was on Fox.



This was NOT what happened.



I was in 1st class coming home. 11 Muslim men

got on the plane in full attire. 2 sat in 1st class and the rest

peppered themselves throughout the plane all the way to the back. As

the plane taxied to the runway the stewardesses gave the safety spiel

we are all so familiar with. At that time, one of the men got on his

cell and called one of his companions in the back and proceeded to

talk on the phone in Arabic very loudly and very aggressively. This

took the 1st stewardess out of the picture for she repeatedly told the

man that cell phones were not permitted at the time. He ignored her

as if she was not there.



The 2nd man who answered the phone did the

same and this took out the 2nd stewardess. In the back of the plane

at this time, 2 younger Muslims, one in the back, isle, and one in

front of him, window, began to show footage of a porno they had taped

the night before, and were very loud about it. Now - they are only

permitted to do this prior to Jihad. If a Muslim man goes into a

strip club, he has to view the woman via mirror with his back to her..

(don't ask me..I don't make the rules, but I've studied) The 3rd

stewardess informed them that they were not to have electronic devices

on at this time. To which one of the men said "shut up infidel dog!"

She went to take the camcorder and he began to scream in her face in

Arabic. At that exact moment, all 11 of them got up and started to

walk the cabin.



This is where I had had enough! I got up and

started to the back where I heard a voice behind me from another Texan

twice my size say "I got your back." I grabbed the man who had been

on the phone by the arm and said "you WILL go sit down or you Will be

thrown from this plane!" As I "led" him around me to take his seat,

the fellow Texan grabbed him by the back of his neck and his waist and

headed out with him. I then grabbed the 2nd man and said, "You WILL

do the same!" He protested but adrenaline was flowing now and he was

going to go..



As I escorted him forward the plane doors open

and 3 TSA agents and 4 police officers entered. Me and my new Texan

friend were told to cease and desist for they had this under control..

I was happy to oblige actually. There was some commotion in the back,

but within moments, all 11 were escorted off the plane. They then

unloaded their luggage.



We talked about the occurrence and were in

disbelief that it had happen, when suddenly, the door open again and

on walked all 11!! Stone faced, eyes front and robotic (the only way

I can describe it). The stewardess from the back had been in tears

and when she saw this, she was having NONE of it! Being that I was up

front, I heard and saw the whole ordeal. She told the TSA agent there

was NO WAY she was staying on the plane with these men. The agent

told her they had searched them and were going to go through their

luggage with a fine tooth comb and that they were allowed to proceed

to Houston. The captain and co-captain came out and told the agent

"we and our crew will not fly this plane!" After a word or two, the

entire crew, luggage in tow, left the plane. 5 minutes later, the

cabin door opened again and a whole new crew walked on.



Again.this is where I had had enough!!! I

got up and asked "What the hell is going on!?!?" I was told to take

my seat. They were sorry for the delay and I would be home shortly.

I said "I'm getting off this plane". The stewardess sternly told me

that she could not allow me to get off. (now I'm mad!) I said "I am

a grown man who bought this ticket, who's time is mine with a family

at home and I am going through that door, or I'm going through that

door with you under my arm!! But I am going through that door!!" And

I heard a voice behind me say "so am I". Then everyone behind us

started to get up and say the same.



Within 2 minutes, I was walking off that plane

where I was met with more agents who asked me to write a statement. I

had 5 hours to kill at this point so why the hell not. Due to the

amount of people who got off that flight, it was cancelled. I was

supposed to be in Houston at 6pm. I got here at 12:30am.



Look up the date. Flight 297 Atlanta to Houston.



If this wasn't a dry run, I don't know what

one is. The terrorists wanted to see how TSA would handle it, how the

crew would handle it, and how the passengers would handle it.



I'm telling this to you because I want you to know.

The threat is real. I saw it with my own eyes.

-Tedd Petruna



A. Gene Ha.............

................... cell & home

...................@gmail.com

....Hwy 290 W

Brenham TX 77833


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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2010, 05:30:46 PM »

I don't know about that.  I fly a lot.  Changing the flight crew in 5 minutes?

There would be more than 5 minutes of paperwork.  I remember this summer in June i was on a flight that pushed off from Atlanta about was about to leave the gate area when a passenger got up from their seat ran to the back of the plane and threw up.  we had to turn around wait, allow the paramedics to get on, take the guy off the plane and wait another 15 minutes or so to get paper redone for departure.  The whole dam thing delayed us at least 45 minutes.

I not saying this didn't happen but i find it hard to believe that an incident like this wasn't turned into a media bonanza and the 5 minute crew change thing doesn't jive. 
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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2010, 06:20:36 PM »

This story is about a year old.
Upon googling his name this is the 3rd result:

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/12/what-happened-on-flight-297/

Sounds like an over exaggerated description. Seems like something might have caused an initial concern or disruption but somehow I doubt that Petruna guy is legit.
Personally, I never bother with all those forwarded emails that mostly recirculate urban legends.
While the crew change element does seem weird, I doubt in this day and age a passenger would threaten a flight crew member, as Petruna claimed, and not get arrested.

This article http://www.ajc.com/business/airtran-hero-wasnt-on-226517.html mentions that there was no passenger named "Petruna" on that flight:

"After conducting additional research into this situation, we have verified, according to flight manifests [legally binding documents] that the individual that allegedly created a first-hand account of events on-board AirTran Airways Flight 297, a Theodore Petruna, was never actually on-board the flight," AirTran said in a statement, which the The Atlanta Journal-Constitution was the first to obtain.


Notice this article too:`
http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/12/we-have-two-updates-on.html

In the latest developments, Houston television station KHOU has done a story about the flight and has talked to the man who sent the email, Tedd Petruna. You can click this link to see the story.

The station quoted Petruna as saying: ""I'm glad it got out. Due to personal and financial reasons, I can't speak about this."

The report said Petruna "admits that his description of the men's attire was wrong, and he admits he didn't personally see anyone watching pornographic videos."



AirTran also issued a statement replying to Petruna's email (their reply in italics):

I was in first class coming home. Eleven muslim men got on the plane in full attire. Two sat in first class and the rest peppered themselves throughout the plane all the way to the back.

The full party was 13 individuals. Their religion is not known to anyone at AirTran. The individuals in this party proceeded to their seats throughout the aircraft and were dressed like any other passenger.


As the plane taxied to the runway, the stewardesses gave the safety spiel we are all so familiar with. At that time, one of the men got on his cell and called one of his companions in the back and proceeded to talk on the phone in Arabic very loudly and very aggressively. This took the first stewardess out of the picture for she repeatedly told the man that cell phones were not permitted at the time. He ignored her as if she wasn't there.

There have been no reports of any individual phoning any other individual on the flight. Furthermore it would be extremely difficult to know who someone is calling. If they are calling someone in the back of the plane, the person listening in on this conversation would not be able to hear the person in the back of the plane nor know where the call was going to.


The second man who answered the phone did the same and this took out the second stewardess. In the back of the plane at this time, 2 younger muslims, one in the back aisle, and one in front of him, window, began to show footage of a porno they had taped the night before, and were very loud about it.

It would be impossible to know what people were allegedly watching or whom they were speaking with in the back of the plane from Business Class. Furthermore, how would anyone know what was on this alleged videotape or when it was made?


Now, they are only permitted to do this prior to Jihad. If a Muslim man goes into a strip club, he has to view the woman via mirror with his back to her (don't ask me, I don't make the rules, but I've studied). The third stewardess informed them that they were not to have electronic devices on at this time. To which one of the men said, "Shut up, infidel dog!" She went to take the camcorder and he began to scream in her face in Arabic.

While the flight attendants did ask an individual to discontinue the use of portable electronic devices, there are no reports of screaming or shouting insults to our Crew Members.


At that exact moment, all 11 of them got up and started to walk to the cabin. This is where I had had enough! I got up and started to the back where I heard a voice behind me from another Texan twice my size say, "I got your back." I grabbed the man who had been on the phone by the arm and said, "you WILL go sit down or you Will be thrown from this plane!"

There are no reports of any passenger standing up in a threatening manner. At NO time was there any physical altercation between passengers. Upon returning to the gate, the individual on the phone and his party were asked to de-plane and did so in full compliance of Crew Members' instructions.


As I led him around me to take his seat, the fellow Texan grabbed him by the back of his neck and his waist and headed out with him. I then grabbed the second man and said, "You WILL do the same!"

This is simply untrue. At NO time was there any physical altercation between passengers.



He protested but adrenaline was flowing now and he was going to go. As I escorted him forward, the plane doors open and 3 TSA agents and 4 police officers entered.

At no time did any law enforcement or Transportation Security Administration (TSA) official enter the aircraft. Two TSA inspectors came to the gate to assess the situation and spoke with the individual involved and his party.



Me and my new Texan friend were told to cease and desist for they had this under control. I was happy to oblige actually. There was some commotion in the back, but within moments, all 11 were escorted off the plane. They then unloaded their luggage.

The entire party complied fully with Crew Members' instructions to exit the aircraft in order to ascertain the situation. Their bags were not removed at any time.



We talked about the occurrence and were in disbelief that it had happened, when suddenly, the door opened again and on walked all eleven!!

After determining none of the individuals posed a security threat to the aircraft, the party was allowed to re-plane.


Stone faced, eyes front and robotic (the only way I can describe it). The stewardess from the back had been in tears and when she saw this, she was having NONE of it! Being that I was up front, I heard and saw the whole ordeal. She told the TSA agent there was NO WAY she was staying on the plane with these men.

There was no TSA or law enforcement agent ever on the plane.



The agent told her they had searched them and were going to go through their luggage with a fine tooth comb and that they were allowed to proceed to Houston.

There was no TSA agent on the plane and there was no additional screening of anyone's bags.


The captain and co-captain came out and told the agent, "we and our crew will not fly this plane!" After a word or two, the entire crew, luggage in tow, left the plane. Five minutes later, the cabin door opened again and a whole new crew walked on.

The crews were swapped. This is a common occurrence in the aviation industry for any number of reasons. If a Crew Member cannot or will not continue a flight, we must replace that Crew Member.


Again, this is where I had had enough!! I got up and asked, "What the hell is going on?" I was told to take my seat. They were sorry for the delay and I would be home shortly. I said, "I'm getting off this plane." The stewardess sternly told me that she could not allow me to get off.

Now I'm mad! I said, "I am a grown man who bought this ticket, who's time is mine with a family at home and I am going through that door, or I'm going through that door with you under my arm!! But I am going through that door!!"

At no time did any AirTran Crew Member refuse to allow a passenger off the plane. Had any passenger threatened a Crew Member, we would have taken appropriate action, including contacting law enforcement.


And I heard a voice behind me say, "So am I." Then everyone behind us started to get up and say the same. Within 2 minutes, I was walking off that plane where I was met with more agents who asked me to write a statement. I had 5 hours to kill at this point so why the hell not. Due to the amount of people who got off that flight, it was cancelled. I was supposed to be in Houston at 6pm. I got here at 12:30am.

After offering all passengers the opportunity to de-plane the aircraft, 12 individuals decided to not take this flight and opted to be re-booked. AirTran officials did not request any passenger to complete an official statement.

The flight was not cancelled and did continue to Houston-Hobby.


Look up the date. Flight 297, Atlanta to Houston.

The flight was not cancelled and did continue to Houston-Hobby.



If this wasn't a dry run, I don't know what one is. They wanted to see how TSA would handle it, how the crew would handle it, and how the passengers would handle it.
I'm telling this to you because I want you to know. The threat is real. I saw it with my own eyes.

The flight was not cancelled and did continue to Houston-Hobby.
The TSA determined this was a customer service issue. The party continued on the flight to Houston-Hobby that evening without further incident.



Finally, here is the FAA report on the incident:

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/documents/2010/02/faa-files-from-investigation-of-airtran-flight-297.php?page=1

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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2010, 06:37:45 PM »

lol

more fake terrorism...  Roll Eyes
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