No it took Dorian to realize he couldn't win anymore with a fucked up arm and God knows what....But both are true hardcore gym warriors, I guess you could say Haney was as well, and that is what seperates them from someone like Jay Cutler---Raisin Bland...
do you realize that jay has finished first or second in EVERY olympia for the last decade (minus 1 year he didnt compete)
won the arnold classic at will
was the first guy to lose the olympia, and in the face of industy-wide doubt and adversity..........came back with his arguably his best package ever
started out from the bottom of the fuckign bottom climbing his way from the "did not place" catagory to a multiple time winner
i think jay cutler has earned his fucking warrior stripes (as much as one can be a "warrior" in a sport where you job is to oil up and pose in a thong for other men)
but seriously jay is probably the most impressive of them all, cause he, on paper, shoudl never have been a good bodybuilder