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TSA Anti-American Constitution Hating Thugs
« on: November 10, 2010, 10:56:53 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2010, 12:58:24 AM »
older, but great article by Ron Paul

Police State USA

 
by Rep. Ron Paul
Last week's announcement that the terrorist threat warning level has been raised in parts of New York, New Jersey, and Washington, D.C., has led to dramatic and unprecedented restrictions on the movements of citizens. Americans wishing to visit the U.S. Capitol must, for example, pass through several checkpoints and submit to police inspection of their cars and persons.

Many Americans support the new security measures because they claim to feel safer when the government issues terror alerts and fills the streets with militarized police forces. As one tourist interviewed this week said, "It makes me feel comfortable to know that everything is being checked." It is ironic that tourists coming to Washington to celebrate the freedoms embodied in the Declaration of Independence are so eager to give up those freedoms with no questions asked.

Freedom is not defined by safety. Freedom is defined by the ability of citizens to live without government interference. Government cannot create a world without risks, nor would we really wish to live in such a fictional place. Only a totalitarian society would even claim absolute safety as a worthy ideal, because it would require total state control over its citizens' lives. This doesn't stop governments, including our own, from seeking more control over and intrusion into our lives. As one Member of Congress stated to the press last week, "people who don't want to be searched don't need to come on Capitol grounds." What an insult! The Capitol belongs to the American people who pay for it, not to Congress or the police.

It is worth noting that the government rushes first to protect itself, devoting enormous resources to make places like the Capitol grounds safe, while just beyond lies one of the most dangerous neighborhoods in the nation. What makes Congress more worthy of protection from terrorists than ordinary citizens?

To understand the nature of our domestic response to the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, we must understand the nature of government. Government naturally expands, and any crises – whether real or manufactured – serve to justify more and more government power over our lives. Bureaucrats have used the tragedy of 9/11 as an excuse to seize police powers sought for decades, such as warrantless searches, Internet monitoring, and access to bank records. It should be no surprise that the recently released report of the 9/11 Commission has but one central recommendation: bigger government and more spending at home and abroad.

Every new security measure represents another failure of the once-courageous American spirit. The more we change our lives, the more we obsess about terrorism, the more the terrorists have won. As commentator Lew Rockwell of the Ludwig von Mises Institute explains, terrorists in effect have been elevated by our response to 9/11: "They are running the country. They determine our civic life. They shape our private life. They decide how public resources are spent. They may dictate who gets to be the next president. It should be obvious that the government doesn't object. Not at all. The government benefits, by getting ever more reason for ever more money and power."

Every generation must resist the temptation to believe that it lives in the most dangerous time in American history. The threat of Islamic terrorism is real, but it is not the greatest danger ever faced by our nation. This is not to dismiss the threat of terrorism, but rather to put it in perspective. Those who seek to whip the nation into a frenzy of fear do a disservice to a country that expelled the British, fought two world wars, and stared down the Soviet empire.

Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.

 

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Re: TSA Anti-American Constitution Hating Thugs
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2010, 04:32:25 AM »
lol




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Re: TSA Anti-American Constitution Hating Thugs
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2010, 04:42:05 AM »
I couldn't watch this happen, I would have drop kicked that stupid tsa thug. 


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Re: TSA Anti-American Constitution Hating Thugs
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2010, 06:06:22 AM »
I couldn't watch this happen, I would have drop kicked that stupid tsa thug. 




Now that's fucked up.  So's the first one.  The TSA is going to have to find some kind of balance.

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Re: TSA Anti-American Constitution Hating Thugs
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2010, 06:11:38 AM »
I couldn't watch this happen, I would have drop kicked that stupid tsa thug. 





Damn.     

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Re: TSA Anti-American Constitution Hating Thugs
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2010, 06:17:02 AM »
My brother, who is a retired police officer, looked in TSA employment....the was about a year and a half ago.....he decided it wasn't for him because of the way they do things. 

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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2010, 06:19:04 AM »
pisses me off that it's been many years of them saying they have found a balance and just as long with the public demanding some balance yet with each year tsa gets more intrusive, nasty and downright absurd.

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Re: TSA Anti-American Constitution Hating Thugs
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2010, 06:22:15 AM »
pisses me off that it's been many years of them saying they have found a balance and just as long with the public demanding some balance yet with each year tsa gets more intrusive, nasty and downright absurd.

Exactly.  Just a very unprofessional organization that sadly is in charge of a VERY important part of people lives...

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« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2010, 06:28:24 AM »
I wish I could go back in time.  I love America, but this new total control version isn't the America I want my daughter raised in.  I know that sounds selfish.  and there's nowhere better to go, so I'm stuck with it.  It doesn't look like the people give a shit so it'll only get worse from here :-\

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Re: TSA Anti-American Constitution Hating Thugs
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2010, 06:32:33 AM »
I wish I could go back in time.  I love America, but this new total control version isn't the America I want my daughter raised in.  I know that sounds selfish.  and there's nowhere better to go, so I'm stuck with it.  It doesn't look like the people give a shit so it'll only get worse from here :-\

You are right.  And I don't want a big debate to start about this, but i find it sad that when people really do take an interest ex: Tea Party, they just get villified by the media.  Agree with them or not, at least they are engaged and want to do something.....

I think one thing that causes so much disillusion is just the overwhelming amount of info, some accurate, but much is not.....people are just so jaded and don't believe in ANYTHING anymore....things we used to agree on as common ground, regardless of politics, religion, etc... are being squeezed out by the hate mongering on both sides of the media spectrum....the shit really needs to ease up.

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Re: TSA Anti-American Constitution Hating Thugs
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2010, 04:33:43 PM »
"you either believe in freedom or you don't"--Ron Paul


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Re: TSA Anti-American Constitution Hating Thugs
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2010, 07:18:01 PM »
LOL!!!!!!


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Re: TSA Anti-American Constitution Hating Thugs
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2010, 07:40:48 PM »
opt out day coming up.  personally, i'd say if you can help it, don't fly.

 

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Re: TSA Anti-American Constitution Hating Thugs
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2010, 07:45:11 PM »
excellent video, great points!


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Re: TSA Anti-American Constitution Hating Thugs
« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2010, 09:28:40 PM »
The Next Time I am at an Airport and I Hear the TSA Shout "Opt Out"...
I am going to clap for the person who refuses to be intimidated into walking into a cancer causing, porno machine.

Pass the word, clap hard!

http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2010/11/next-time-i-am-at-airport-and-i-hear.html


that's a good idea, since tsa obviously just started yelling opt-out recently to humilate those opting out and keep everyone in line to have their goods imaged.

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Re: TSA Anti-American Constitution Hating Thugs
« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2010, 09:36:11 PM »
I wonder why the ACLU isn't all over some of this stuff

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Re: TSA Anti-American Constitution Hating Thugs
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2010, 10:08:15 PM »
I wonder why the ACLU isn't all over some of this stuff
here's a statement on it, but I don't know if they have any cases going on.
http://www.duiattorney.com/news/6523-aclu-says-body-scanners-invade-privacy

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Re: TSA Anti-American Constitution Hating Thugs
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2010, 06:33:03 AM »
Take a look at whats on the  desktop background at this airport computer. Someone has a sick sense of humor.




closer look


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Re: TSA Anti-American Constitution Hating Thugs
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2010, 06:35:29 AM »
Take a look at whats on the  desktop background at this airport computer. Someone has a sick scence of humor.




closer look



wow.   Sickening. 

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Re: TSA Anti-American Constitution Hating Thugs
« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2010, 12:06:52 AM »
Making Pilots Puke

Believe me when I say that I despise unions as much as the next anarchist. With their taxation of victims based on profession rather than geography and their violence against those who object to paying for "services" they neither want nor need, unions are nothing but government writ small.

So it is with fear, trembling, and a sense of the world’s turning upside down that I applaud not one but two pilots’ unions, albeit with reservations (no pun intended). Both have denounced the Transportation Security Administration’s (TSA) ogling and sexual assault of their members (ditto on the pun); both urge pilots to refuse irradiation from the TSA’s porno-scanners though that guarantees groping from its goons. "There is absolutely no denying that the enhanced pat-down is a demeaning experience," says Dave Bates, president of the union for American Airlines’ pilots. "In my view, it is unacceptable to submit to one in public while wearing the uniform of a professional airline pilot. I recommend that all pilots insist that such screening is performed in an out-of-view area to protect their privacy and dignity."

 
Capt. Mike Cleary over at US Airways agrees, though in language a tad stronger. As president of the US Airline Pilots Association, he notes that "TSA's rapid deployment of Advanced Imaging Technology (AIT) screening machines, followed by the new Enhanced Pat-Down procedures, have caused turmoil for airline pilots and the traveling public alike. … Pilots should NOT submit to AIT screening. The TSA has offered no credible specifications for the radiation emitted by these machines." Pilots should instead request a private frisking with someone else from the crew as a witness (canny fellow, Capt. Cleary: nobody’s gonna "accidentally" wind up dead on his watch), after which they "must evaluate their fitness for duty … there is a wide range of possibilities once you submit to a private screening, and the results can be devastating. ….it is your responsibility to make sure you are emotionally fit and not stressed in any way by your close encounter with the TSA" before settling into the cockpit.

 
Sobering, isn’t it? Not only does the TSA endanger you and your children with its sexual assaults, it also risks your life by traumatizing the guy flying your plane. When will Congress abolish this agency as the worst of all threats to Amerika’s raison d’ętre and god, National Security?

Remember that most pilots are veterans of the Air Force – tough coots who may even have seen combat. But Capt. Cleary warns that one coot’s reaction to his "close encounter" with the TSA "left him unable to function as a crewmember. The words this pilot used to describe the incident included ‘sexual molestation,’ and in the aftermath of trying to recover, this pilot reported that he had literally vomited in his own driveway while contemplating going back to work and facing the possibility of a similar encounter with the TSA. This is a very serious situation, and it represents a crossroads for all U.S. airline pilots." Paging Michael Roberts: your colleagues need some guidance on dealing with totalitarian thugs.

Meanwhile, imagine for a moment that your boss summons you and orders, "OK, now listen up. Beginning Monday, I want you runnin’ your hands all over our ‘customers,’ heh heh. Ever’ crack and crevice, you hear me? Squeeze ‘em, explore ‘em, make ‘em scared you’re gonna rape ‘em. I want ladies cryin’, I want toddlers screamin’, I want all them he-men out there pukin’ their guts out. You got me?" What sort of scum are you if you don’t pop him in the nose and quit? Then again, only scum "works" for TSA in the first place.

 
But I interrupted the eloquent Capt. Cleary. "Let's be perfectly clear," he continued, "the TSA procedures … are blatantly unacceptable … I can promise you that your union will not rest until all U.S. airline pilots have a way to reach their workplace ... the aircraft ... without submitting ourselves to the will of a TSO behind closed doors." Whoa! What a master of innuendo! "Left unchecked, there's simply no way to predict how far the TSA will overreach in searching and frisking pilots …. The eyewash being dribbled by the TSA in this instance is embarrassingly devoid of common sense, and we will not stand for it."

 
Way to go, Cap’n! One only wishes you hadn’t muzzled yourself all these years: where’ve you been while pilots – and the passengers paying your salary – shed their shoes and endured the TSA’s anti-constitutional, kleptomaniacal rifling of their belongings? The TSA’s eyewash has always been embarrassingly devoid of common sense. But, hey, better late than never.

cont... http://www.lewrockwell.com/akers/akers135.html

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Re: TSA Anti-American Constitution Hating Thugs
« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2010, 12:39:29 AM »

I think one thing that causes so much disillusion is just the overwhelming amount of info, some accurate, but much is not.....people are just so jaded and don't believe in ANYTHING anymore....things we used to agree on as common ground, regardless of politics, religion, etc... are being squeezed out by the hate mongering on both sides of the media spectrum....the shit really needs to ease up.

QFT!!!
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Re: TSA Anti-American Constitution Hating Thugs
« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2010, 12:54:59 AM »
Another pilot stands up to TSA: Ann Poe, a pilot for Continental Airlines, refused to be groped or seen naked and did not make it to work on Nov. 4th. Says, "TSA is now affecting my livelihood."

http://fedupflyers.org/2010/11/168/

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« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2010, 12:57:24 AM »
covered above a bit but here's the source:

Unions tell 14,000 pilots to avoid body scanners at airports
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/flights/2010-11-11-scanners11_ST_N.htm

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Re: TSA Anti-American Constitution Hating Thugs
« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2010, 12:59:58 AM »
The TSA Is Cracking: Increase the Pressure!

We are making progress against the TSA and the police state. Airlines, hotels, etc. are worried about people refusing to fly, and Commissar Janet Napolitano and the rest of the police state apparat are deeply worried. This Reuters story, like the rest of the MSM, plays down (i.e., lies about) the true nature of the naked, irradiating scanners, and the genital gropes and, for women, breast feel-ups and twisting. The MSM, as adjuncts of the State, always disguise the real reasons for such national-socialist measures: to control, humiliate, intimidate, and condition us to abject obedience. We are the cattle, they are the overlords. But we can resist. We can revolt. We can rebuild our freedom. We only have to withdraw our consent.  So keep up, and indeed increase, the pressure on the TSA. To make us safer, it must be abolished

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/69444.html