Ronnie Coleman looked sick in Finland 98'

[kiwiol]

oh, and someone wanted some dorian/fat bastard pics? well, here you go:

 

[Shockwave]

Ronnie looks great in that 98 vid.

I still prefer his 99 look, same conditioning with more fullness/size. his upper back does not appear as dry in that vid as it did in the 99 clips. but this is understandable since Ronnie no doubt timed his peak for the olympia that year, and not necessarily the grand prix shows after.

ironically, guy hero and saviour Peter McGough also prefers his 99 look over his 98 one, but the nuthuggers don't like to hear this. they hate it when I remind them of his printed words LOL
oh, and someone wanted some dorian/fat bastard pics? well, here you go:

Hahaha, no one cares about that, because he also said Ronnie couldnt win against Dorian. So you just fucked yourself with that one, either hes right about 99 and Ronnie would lose, or hes wrong, 99 wasnt his best and Ronnie wouldn't lose to Dorian. Hahahahah.

Not to mention, your whole argument was destroyed 3 times when Ronnie ammended his previous statement about being his best from the night of the 99 O after he won. (cause NO ONE would say they were better last year) . Hahaha. Youre truely sad Hulkster.

[tbombz]

ive been to helsinki!

[Evo]

Can't touch this..

STOP! Hammer time!

DY and Coleman were both awesome in their primes, who would have won?

I wouldn't like to judge it!

[Hulkster]

Hahaha, no one cares about that

no, we all know that for a period of several years ND's whole argument was based solely on peter mcgough's opinion.

go back and read some of the old dorian/ronnie threads or the truce thread. its all over the place.

so nice try, but that won't work.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Ronnie looks great in that 98 vid.

I still prefer his 99 look, same conditioning with more fullness/size. his upper back does not appear as dry in that vid as it did in the 99 clips. but this is understandable since Ronnie no doubt timed his peak for the olympia that year, and not necessarily the grand prix shows after.

ironically, guy hero and saviour Peter McGough also prefers his 99 look over his 98 one, but the nuthuggers don't like to hear this. they hate it when I remind them of his printed words LOL

oh, and someone wanted some dorian/fat bastard pics? well, here you go:

WRONG his conditioning was not the ' same ' and what's funny is you're now reduced to accepting Peter McGough's words as some sort of proof when you dismissed them for a very long time and they still contradict everything you type as usual

and it's you who hates to be reminded of his printed words  watch & learn stupid

review of mr. olympia 1999, january 2000, page  90:

257 pounds, a good seven pounds heavier than last year and the clear winner, ALTHOUGH NOT AS BONE DRY OR AS ROCK HARD IN 98. 

Oh don't like being reminded his conditioning was NOT the same in 99 do you?  and you say he preferred his 99 look to 98 ? doesn't have anything to do with his conditioning being better in 98 and you being the weasel you are forgot to type were he prefers his 2001 physique over 1998/1999 

you hate to be reminded of this as well 

While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger body weight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.

Everyone knows 1998 he was better conditioned , everyone except stupid people like you who've been proven dead wrong but insist on claiming the opposite of reality because you were exposed as being dumb to what conditioning is and isn't. Like I've always said don't worry we all know you don't know shit about this sport , especially after you claimed Dorian lost the most dominate Olympia win in this history of the contest 

[Jaime]

Ronnie's chest structure was less than pleasing. In pure bodybuilding terms Dorian in 1993 impresses me more, although i am no fan of the mass monster look.

[NarcissisticDeity]

no, we all know that for a period of several years ND's whole argument was based solely on peter mcgough's opinion.

go back and read some of the old dorian/ronnie threads or the truce thread. its all over the place.

so nice try, but that won't work.

No it wasn't and never has been , what's funny is my argument's been the same since day one , long before Peter McGough confirmed what I always said

My argument always has been the same , Dorian would win against Ronnie because he's bigger than Ronnie at his best , harder & drier , has better balance & proportion , oh and he's better at physique presentation as well , so staying true to your deceptive nature you think you can outright lie saying that was all my argument was based on and as usual it takes moments to bitch-slap you

My argument was based off the IFBB judging criteria which I posted long before any Peter McGough quotes , opppsssss forgot about that one huh? recall the IFBB judging criteria which you didn't have a clue what it was? and still don't 

McGough's opinion confirmed what I said ( Dorian has better conditioning , see above ) , Yates confirmed what I said about the same as far as conditioning and balance , that's the best part having my opinions validated by the best in the business why you on the other hand LMFAO think Ronnie has more detailed calves than Dorian , that Dorian lost the 1993 Olympia to Flex , that 1994 was close and 1998 wasn't HAHAHAHAHAHHA that 1999 is Ronnie's best

Your ' opinions ' are ignorant which isn't a bad thing because ignorant just means you don't know , there comes a point where your ' opinions ' become stupid & retarded is when you do find out , and don't like the reality of the situation and decide to just keep typing the same lies and think if you keep doing so , you wont have to face the embarrassment of looking like a moron , like I've said you've proven you're an idiot every time you post 

[The Wizard of Truth]

I prefer Ronnie's physique also but I don't think you can judge who is best simply by wins.  Jay could win ten times and still couldn't compare to Ronnie or Dorian.

Exactly, I prefer Levrone and Flex over them both but its personal taste

[NarcissisticDeity]

Hahaha, no one cares about that, because he also said Ronnie couldnt win against Dorian. So you just fucked yourself with that one, either hes right about 99 and Ronnie would lose, or hes wrong, 99 wasnt his best and Ronnie wouldn't lose to Dorian. Hahahahah.

Not to mention, your whole argument was destroyed 3 times when Ronnie ammended his previous statement about being his best from the night of the 99 O after he won. (cause NO ONE would say they were better last year) . Hahaha. Youre truely sad Hulkster.

What's funny is Hulkster HATES Peter McGough's words because they destroyed everything to tried to prove , he may prefer his 99 look has absolutely nothing to do with his conditioning compared to 1998 and the funny part is Hulkster leaves out is in the same quote he outright says 1998/1999 isn't the best he's looked it's 2001 HAHAHAHAHAHA so it proves 1999 isn't his best like Hulkster is trying to claim

see he fucked himself with the 99 screencaps he was looking at enhanced screencaps and came to the conclusion this was the best Ronnie ever looked HAHAHAHAHAHAHA and he was the forced to stick to this story because he knows that if he changes to 98 or 01 we'll know that he doesn't know what he's talking about LMFAO we already know that for a fact !! he's proven that time and again

and another angle he desperately needs 99 to be Ronnie's best his is weight , he thinks he can compete with Dorian because of similar weight and yet in his stupidity he can't grasp the concept of there being a vast difference between the 257lbs Ronnie carried in 99 and the 257lbs hard & dry Dorian carried in 93

And many consider Dorian's best the black & white photos in 1993 and he's 269lbs with better conditioning than Ronnie any year ( sans 98/01 where his conditioning may be equal ) so he's fucked either way , Dorian B&W at 269lbs kills Ronnie 99 , in all of the criteria , bigger , harder , drier , better balance , more complete , better poser ! so he still loses , apply all that criteria to Ronnie any other year and guess who satisfies it better 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Exactly, I prefer Levrone and Flex over them both but its personal taste

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That's precisely the problem , this guys CAN NOT for the life of them separate what they prefer to what would win

I prefer Flex , Steve Reeves , Frank Zane but that has nothing to do with who would beat who in a contest

I actually thought Flex looked eons better than Dorian in 1993 and was baffled how Dorian could beat him , I claimed it was fixed , how can a guy who looked nothing like the ideal beat Flex who was the epitome of it win , then I learned how contests were judged and I then realized just how much Dorian dominated that contest and how far Flex was from winning

99.9% of Ronnie fans simply prefer the way his physique looks compared to Dorians and they base their opinion on who would win using that alone.

[Royal Lion]

Someone else that looked amazing in finland. Savolainen

wins the rear double B and side tri imo

This is from 1997 though.  But yes, Marko looked unreal.

[Mr.1derful]

Insane!

Indeed, Ronnie did look great that year.  Lucky for him, he didn't have to compete against this, or he would have been slaughtered.  It is so obvious, it is not even up for debate.  Ronnie lacks the width and density to hang with Yates.  When Ronnie turns to the side, the difference is staggering.

[Meso_z]

This is from 1997 though.  But yes, Marko looked unreal.

from 98 it went downhill for him (Marko).

[rudylrichards]

Incredible in '98.  I think his 300+lbs in '04 was his best.  You wouldn't be able to see the '98 ronnie next to the '04 Ronnie

[Kim Jong Bob]

to bad marko couldnt hold the pressure, he would have been a great pro. at the vid wasnt he like 26-27 years old?

[tallgerman]

roid-ron looks like shit

blocky no symerty

[Meso_z]

to bad marko couldnt hold the pressure, he would have been a great pro. at the vid wasnt he like 26-27 years old?

24..

He won the finnish championships in 93 at 19yrs old. so that makes him about 23-24 in that video (97). insane if you think twice.

[Alex23]

1998-2000 Ronnie Coleman = untouchable and will never be reproduced in this lifetime.

[Kim Jong Bob]

24..

He won the finnish championships in 93 at 19yrs old. so that makes him about 23-24 in that video (97). insane if you think twice.

insane. not many guys who have competed at the pro level with that kind of muscularity and shape at that age.

[JP_RC]

I wasn't gonna type in this thread until YOU mentioned my name  

yet the same year he just barely beat Flex Wheeler by the skin of his teeth by 3 points in one of the closest contests in Olympia history , yet he was ' much better ' hahahahahaha keep telling yourself that  

Ronnie looks amazing in this video for the record much sharper here than in 1999 his conditioning was fantastic , shame he added more redundant size this package was good enough to beat the guys he was competing against

yet the same year he just barely beat Flex Wheeler by the skin of his teeth by 3 points in one of the closest contests in Olympia history , yet he was ' much better ' hahahahahaha keep telling yourself that  

Sure he beat Flex by only 3 points, but was that reflected on stage? I seriously saw Ronnie beat Flex by far, maybe he got overlooked in the prejudging as someone else mentioned before...which is why the closeness in points.

Ronnie looks amazing in this video for the record much sharper here than in 1999 his conditioning was fantastic , shame he added more redundant size this package was good enough to beat the guys he was competing against

I agree.

[JP_RC]

Can't touch this..

He never got that package to the stage.

[JP_RC]

Ronnie looks great in that 98 vid.

I still prefer his 99 look, same conditioning with more fullness/size. his upper back does not appear as dry in that vid as it did in the 99 clips. but this is understandable since Ronnie no doubt timed his peak for the olympia that year, and not necessarily the grand prix shows after.

ironically, guy hero and saviour Peter McGough also prefers his 99 look over his 98 one, but the nuthuggers don't like to hear this. they hate it when I remind them of his printed words LOL

oh, and someone wanted some dorian/fat bastard pics? well, here you go:

Sorry hulkster I'm going to have to disagree with you here, but his conditioning in 99 was not better than 98.

Are you sure you can't see he was drier in 98?

[erics]

I prefer Flex , Steve Reeves , Frank Zane but that has nothing to do with who would beat who in a contest ... 99.9% of Ronnie fans simply prefer the way his physique looks compared to Dorians and they base their opinion on who would win using that alone.

This sums up bodybuilding 'fandom'.

The problem, I think, is that there is no evidence of how and why who beats who on the scorecards. If the scorecards could somehow reflect the criteria, it would make the whole judging process a lot more accountable.

At the moment, it's mainly a matter of spin doctoring and then, over time, the fans believe in the god-like powers of whatever is written as history. A case in point is when Arnold won the Olympia in 1980. If I remember correctly, regarding the controversial nature of the win, he said something along the lines of that even though the fans were upset, it would all blow over he will still have won the Olympia 7 times.

People tend to believe the rhythms of reporting rather than the reality behind it.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Sure he beat Flex by only 3 points, but was that reflected on stage? I seriously saw Ronnie beat Flex by far, maybe he got overlooked in the prejudging as someone else mentioned before...which is why the closeness in points.

I agree.

Sure he beat Flex by only 3 points, but was that reflected on stage? I seriously saw Ronnie beat Flex by far, maybe he got overlooked in the prejudging as someone else mentioned before...which is why the closeness in points.

sure it did Ronnie was a deserving winner but make NO mistake it was close and he was ' overlooked ' excuse is just that an excuse , Roland Cziurlock was overlooked in 1994 where did he place? if Ronnie was ' overlooked ' he wouldn't have won