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Re: Ronnie Coleman looked sick in Finland 98'
« Reply #100 on: November 14, 2010, 12:36:54 PM »
ND and Hulkster need to get married  :P :P The man love is strong between the two of them.
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Re: Ronnie Coleman looked sick in Finland 98'
« Reply #101 on: November 14, 2010, 12:39:18 PM »
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Re: Ronnie Coleman looked sick in Finland 98'
« Reply #102 on: November 14, 2010, 12:42:22 PM »
Im pretty sure no one could stand being around Hulkster.
He exhibits many traits of a scorned woman, passive aggressive, saying shit happened differently than it did, stalking them around, projecting his problems on others, inability to take responsability, his emotions blind him to facts, he refuses to accept something when he loses face, etc.
He acts like a bitch.

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Re: Ronnie looked sick in Finland 98'
« Reply #103 on: November 14, 2010, 12:53:51 PM »
sure it did Ronnie was a deserving winner but make NO mistake it was close and he was ' overlooked ' excuse is just that an excuse , Roland Cziurlock was overlooked in 1994 where did he place? if Ronnie was ' overlooked ' he wouldn't have won

Good point, but I still think Ronnie won that contest by far. I mean his conditioning was far better than the rest with more size, pretty similar to how Dorian used to beat the other guys too.

I also don't think a 93 Dorian would have that much of a size advantage vs a 98 Ronnie, he may have weighed more but the visual appaerance of size would be pretty similar I think.

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Re: Ronnie looked sick in Finland 98'
« Reply #104 on: November 14, 2010, 12:56:06 PM »
its a little better with even more size.

compare the clips.




notice how when ronnie hits the mm in 99, his chest is a roadmap of detail and vascularity. in the 98 clip, nothing happens. notice the rear lat spread. the christmas tree of detail is loud and clear in 99, not so in 98. its obvious when you really compare the clips.

now, the nuthuggers know the clip shows 99 to be better, and do you know what their way of refuting this is? they simply claim the 99 videos are faked LOL ::)


yes, they really are that sad. :-\

I don't know, I truly see him drier in 98.

He was bigger in 99 and had better seperation, but in 98 he was drier.

I don't think those videos of 99 are fake though, every other video from the same contest like Shawn Ray or Lee Priest posing has the same quality.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman looked sick in Finland 98'
« Reply #105 on: November 14, 2010, 12:57:13 PM »
Im pretty sure no one could stand being around Hulkster.
He exhibits many traits of a scorned woman, passive aggressive, saying shit happened differently than it did, stalking them around, projecting his problems on others, inability to take responsability, his emotions blind him to facts, he refuses to accept something when he loses face, etc.
He acts like a bitch.

spoken like a down and beaten guy.

seek refuge with your fellow conspiracy theorists. all two of them. LOL
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Re: Ronnie Coleman looked sick in Finland 98'
« Reply #106 on: November 14, 2010, 12:58:17 PM »
the new guy board on getbig:

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Re: Ronnie Coleman looked sick in Finland 98'
« Reply #107 on: November 14, 2010, 12:59:37 PM »
Is it just me, or has Hulkster become a "lone wolf" on this board?  Those who prefer Ronnie for legitimate reasons have distanced themselves from him because his arguments are based on falsities.  Maybe that should tell you something, Hulkster -- you're delusional.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman looked sick in Finland 98'
« Reply #108 on: November 14, 2010, 01:00:36 PM »
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Once again Dorian never took that 93 b&w package to the stage.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman looked sick in Finland 98'
« Reply #109 on: November 14, 2010, 01:03:11 PM »
Once again Dorian never took that 93 b&w package to the stage.
Regardless, his 1993 victory was arguably the most dominant ever . . .

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Re: Ronnie Coleman looked sick in Finland 98'
« Reply #110 on: November 14, 2010, 01:18:16 PM »
Regardless, his 1993 victory was arguably the most dominant ever . . .

I agree, but he never faced a prime Ronnie.  :)

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Re: Ronnie Coleman looked sick in Finland 98'
« Reply #111 on: November 14, 2010, 01:33:47 PM »
spoken like a down and beaten guy.

seek refuge with your fellow conspiracy theorists. all two of them. LOL
Says the guy who still thinks he never posted a enhanced screencap  ;D I laugh at your stupidity  ;D

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Re: Ronnie Coleman looked sick in Finland 98'
« Reply #112 on: November 14, 2010, 01:36:34 PM »
Is it just me, or has Hulkster become a "lone wolf" on this board?  Those who prefer Ronnie for legitimate reasons have distanced themselves from him because his arguments are based on falsities.  Maybe that should tell you something, Hulkster -- you're delusional.

nope he's all alone , like I said people who generally ' know ' Ronnie is better than Dorian feel Hulkster is a fucking idiot with a very good reason

he likes to type I run from him , Kevin Horton ran from him , when in fact it's him who ran from the truth and facts and his buddy Bizzy who ran from him after he was busted.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman looked sick in Finland 98'
« Reply #113 on: November 14, 2010, 01:40:58 PM »
Once again Dorian never took that 93 b&w package to the stage.

And once again that has absolutely nothing to do with it. The ' argument ' was who at their best would beat whom , many experts feel this is the best Dorian looked , Dorian admittedly said he was losing nothing but pure muscle in hopes of getting harder & drier for a contest and the general consensus among those in the know said he could compete on-stage with this showing and beat everyone hands down




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Re: Ronnie Coleman looked sick in Finland 98'
« Reply #114 on: November 14, 2010, 01:51:04 PM »
And once again that has absolutely nothing to do with it. The ' argument ' was who at their best would beat whom , many experts feel this is the best Dorian looked , Dorian admittedly said he was losing nothing but pure muscle in hopes of getting harder & drier for a contest and the general consensus among those in the know said he could compete on-stage with this showing and beat everyone hands down





Yes, but how do you know how Ronnie looked "x" weeks out from "x" contest?  How do you know his absolute best look wasn't captured unlike Dorian?

I think its best to just use their actual contest presentations.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman looked sick in Finland 98'
« Reply #115 on: November 14, 2010, 01:51:42 PM »
I agree, but he never faced a prime Ronnie.  :)

3 points is what separated Flex from a ' prime Ronnie ' in 1998 yet we're supposed to buy he can beat Dorian even in 1993 a contest where he obliterated a near-prime Flex? that my friend makes no sense what so ever and we're not even talking about Dorian at 269lbs and the gyno would ruin it for Ronnie even if it were close.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman looked sick in Finland 98'
« Reply #116 on: November 14, 2010, 01:56:43 PM »
Yes, but how do you know how Ronnie looked "x" weeks out from "x" contest?  How do you know his absolute best look wasn't captured like Dorian?

I think its best to just use their actual contest presentations.

We don't know , although Kevin Horton did say the best he ever seen Ronnie was pre-contest I believe 2002 and if that's the case we know a few things for sure , his conditioning wouldn't be on par with Yates or his balance & proportion , funny Kevin Horton said the best he's ever seen Dorian was pre-contest 1995 and he posted the picture of Dorian from that shoot , he was 283lbs you know the picture where Hulkster claimed it was ' morphed ' and Kevin Horton said if Hulkster posted it then it probably would have been but it was untouched




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Re: Ronnie looked sick in Finland 98'
« Reply #117 on: November 14, 2010, 02:01:49 PM »
Good point, but I still think Ronnie won that contest by far. I mean his conditioning was far better than the rest with more size, pretty similar to how Dorian used to beat the other guys too.

I also don't think a 93 Dorian would have that much of a size advantage vs a 98 Ronnie, he may have weighed more but the visual appaerance of size would be pretty similar I think.

We wouldn't know unless they were side-by-side but lets say muscular size is a push , Dorian still has balance & proportion and density & dryness , he's more complete and doesn't have bitch-tits

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Re: Ronnie Coleman looked sick in Finland 98'
« Reply #118 on: November 14, 2010, 02:03:47 PM »
Ronnie kills dorian

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Re: Ronnie Coleman looked sick in Finland 98'
« Reply #119 on: November 14, 2010, 02:04:07 PM »
3 points is what separated Flex from a ' prime Ronnie ' in 1998 yet we're supposed to buy he can beat Dorian even in 1993 a contest where he obliterated a near-prime Flex? that my friend makes no sense what so ever and we're not even talking about Dorian at 269lbs and the gyno would ruin it for Ronnie even if it were close.

I understand your point about the points difference, but I still don't understand how you can't see how far Ronnie was from Flex in 98 in terms of conditioning and size appaerance.

Dorian was heavier than Ronnie at both best contest presentations, but was that reflected visually on stage? I ask this because I saw your comparison pic of them in that 96 grand prix show and the visual size difference isn't that big. So if Ronnie can manage to 'look' equally or close to equally as big as Dorian while having same conditioning (98) then his only disadvantage would be balance & proportion. Symmetry would go to him.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman looked sick in Finland 98'
« Reply #120 on: November 14, 2010, 02:06:43 PM »
We don't know , although Kevin Horton did say the best he ever seen Ronnie was pre-contest I believe 2002 and if that's the case we know a few things for sure , his conditioning wouldn't be on par with Yates or his balance & proportion , funny Kevin Horton said the best he's ever seen Dorian was pre-contest 1995 and he posted the picture of Dorian from that shoot , he was 283lbs you know the picture where Hulkster claimed it was ' morphed ' and Kevin Horton said if Hulkster posted it then it probably would have been but it was untouched





In this case of taking precontest versions into consideration I hate to admit Dorian could be better than Ronnie.

Is that the 95 shot you're talking about? I thought it was the BDB one.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman looked sick in Finland 98'
« Reply #121 on: November 14, 2010, 02:11:07 PM »
some of you faggo ts take ronnie and dorian way too seriously.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman looked sick in Finland 98'
« Reply #122 on: November 14, 2010, 02:12:32 PM »
some of you faggo ts take ronnie and dorian way too seriously.

 ;D I'm bored and have nothing better to do right now, so I might as well try to 'debate' this.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman looked sick in Finland 98'
« Reply #123 on: November 14, 2010, 02:14:54 PM »
Youre the one trying to rewrite history you fucking douchebag!
Youre the one that got fucking owned by Horton when he proved bizzys caps came from a sharpened source, you fucktard, and you looked like the fucking retard you are! Stop projecting your embarassment on someone else and stop being the mentally fucked little weasel you are. Nothing you say or do is going to change the fact that he made you look like a total tool!
Now the fact that your trying to push that sharpened vid when all of the sources lead back to Bizzy is pathetic, but you actually think people are buying your bullshit!
There is no way you have friends in real life, you re a fucking weasel, you have no clue how retarded you look, and how people percieve you.

I couldn't have said it better myself ! you can see his tactics haven't changed he tried the same shit on Kevin Horton , the conspiracy , changing his words around , denying the obvious.

If Hulkster would have just said " hey I didn't know they were worked I apologize " it would have been the end of it but this moron kept using them even after being busted and he doesn't care , the sad part about all of this is , it's not even his best year lmao another thing he refuses to admit in the face of overwhelming facts , he thinks if he keeps posting the same shit over-and-over it will then become truth but dam it we're always here rubbing his face in his own shit

the funny thing is he had forcedreps screencaps to use he same ones Kevin Horton compared to Bizzy's to show dummy he was using enhanced ones , I posted the entire coverage of the 1999 Mr Olympia from several magazines and then the Muscletime scans , so he had plenty of legitimate sources to use but he kept using the worked ones.

but hey that's him in a nuttshell when facts contradict reality then keep denying , he was not only busted using oversharpened images , he was busted using morphed pics on multiple occasions , and I busted him making up quotes that don't exist and he posted quotes out of contest it's part of his deceptive nature because he knows for a fact he's wrong , like when he posts an unflexed Dorian compared to Ronnie , everything he does calls his motives into play

It's like Kevin Horton said when he started using manipulated images to prove his point his credibility was seriously compromised and this is where we are now , he's still claiming the opposite of reality but I do enjoy making him look like a fucking retard.


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Re: Ronnie Coleman looked sick in Finland 98'
« Reply #124 on: November 14, 2010, 02:28:08 PM »
I understand your point about the points difference, but I still don't understand how you can't see how far Ronnie was from Flex in 98 in terms of conditioning and size appaerance.

Dorian was heavier than Ronnie at both best contest presentations, but was that reflected visually on stage? I ask this because I saw your comparison pic of them in that 96 grand prix show and the visual size difference isn't that big. So if Ronnie can manage to 'look' equally or close to equally as big as Dorian while having same conditioning (98) then his only disadvantage would be balance & proportion. Symmetry would go to him.

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I understand your point about the points difference, but I still don't understand how you can't see how far Ronnie was from Flex in 98 in terms of conditioning and size appaerance.

you're severely under-estimating Flex , I wont say 1999 was a close contest because Flex was crushed but 1998 was extremely close either way you slice it , Flex was slightly off in 1998 because he competed at the Arnold and still pushed Ronnie , he said outright if he come in that shape he would beat Ronnie

the 1998 Olympia like many people said was won by Ronnie because of his hams & glutes which Flex had a problem with and Ronnie didn't and when contests are close it's things like that that can separate a winner from a loser

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Dorian was heavier than Ronnie at both best contest presentations, but was that reflected visually on stage? I ask this because I saw your comparison pic of them in that 96 grand prix show and the visual size difference isn't that big. So if Ronnie can manage to 'look' equally or close to equally as big as Dorian while having same conditioning (98) then his only disadvantage would be balance & proportion. Symmetry would go to him.

conditioning was never the same everyone knows this and Dorian in the 96 grand prix looks bigger to me and looks , looks more complete , looks wider to boot , I think if it were hypothetically close what would swing it in Dorian's favor would be he's more complete , he had better posing & presentation and Ronnie would have bitch-tits and that's saying if it were close