winklaar on the way to be a MASSMONSTER

[closeline]

guestposing last saturday (ronny rockel gets crushed by rolley s mass)


http://clips.team-andro.com/watch/643ecdbf07e2ba4cfc55/roelly-winklaar-guestposing-13.11.2010-bavaria-germany

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[affeman]

[Jake_W]

                       

[g101]

wtf causes that BLOATED face,

especially on stage where these guys barely have any fat and their face is bloated like a 300lb fat guy..

is it the insulin ??

[Spike]

siht...balls he looks swole

[225for70]

siht...balls he looks swole

Are those pics real?

[~UN_$ung~]

wtf causes that BLOATED face,

especially on stage where these guys barely have any fat and their face is bloated like a 300lb fat guy..

is it the insulin ??

everything, whenever your in an anabolic metabolic environment......there is gonna be a lot of water present

insulin, growth hormones, and androgens ALL cause water gain..........especially if you in a post contest bulkin period like he is, he is probaby eating everything in sight right now......and going heavy with the drugs

[Parker]

siht...balls he looks swole

He's coming after Phil Heath.

[no one]

wtf causes that BLOATED face,

especially on stage where these guys barely have any fat and their face is bloated like a 300lb fat guy..

is it the insulin ??

water from the GH.

[Flexb]

The bloat is from test/estro conversion creating water retention.

[~UN_$ung~]

water from the GH.

The bloat is from test/estro conversion creating water retention.

actually its from both of these.....combined with all the sodium he is taking in during this period of caloric surplus

[flexingtonsteele]

Damn, i bet of all of his offseason weight gain 90% is water.

Thats the look of someone on a shitload of test, slin and gh. And the reason why while he might get bigger in the next few years, he'll progressively look worse.

[Stavios]

Damn, i bet of all of his offseason weight gain 90% is water.

Thats the look of someone on a shitload of test, slin and gh. And the reason why while he might get bigger in the next few years, he'll progressively look worse.

upping the dosage is the only way to paradise

[g101]

I dunno guys, I know a few guys at my gym who use a lot of testosterone and GH and their face is sunken in

it's fucking weird theres this 6'3 guy at my gym (dont know weight but he's big and lean) has NO veins and have a sunken face  

and also theres a lot of  huge ripped veiny guys but their face looks RETARDED no joke i dont know how to explain it lol, like a mix of down syndrom and something else lol

[no one]

actually its from both of these.....combined with all the sodium he is taking in during this period of caloric surplus

you can run a lot of test and not hold that much water. same thing with caloric intake.

GH is responsible for the amount of water you see in competitors faces- and i'm not talking 4 units a day- thats 10-20 units plus ed... you take away the GH and their faces dramatically change, even on heavy test and heavy sodium/ calorie diets.

[affeman]

I dunno guys, I know a few guys at my gym who use a lot of testosterone and GH and their face is sunken in

it's fucking weird theres this 6'3 guy at my gym (dont know weight but he's big and lean) has NO veins and have a sunken face  

and also theres a lot of  huge ripped veiny guys but their face looks RETARDED no joke i dont know how to explain it lol, like a mix of down syndrom and something else lol

Like that?

[g101]

its more like down syndrom and UGLYNESS

something like roelly i mean is there a specific substance that makes all these roiders ugly lol?

perhaps, SEVERE TRENBOLONA ??

[DK II]

I dunno guys, I know a few guys at my gym who use a lot of testosterone and GH and their face is sunken in

it's fucking weird theres this 6'3 guy at my gym (dont know weight but he's big and lean) has NO veins and have a sunken face  

and also theres a lot of  huge ripped veiny guys but their face looks RETARDED no joke i dont know how to explain it lol, like a mix of down syndrom and something else lol

gh15 once commented on this, you cannot evade the down syndrome face. 

[Wiggs]

On his way to looking like shit...

[Flexb]

I dunno guys, I know a few guys at my gym who use a lot of testosterone and GH and their face is sunken in

it's fucking weird theres this 6'3 guy at my gym (dont know weight but he's big and lean) has NO veins and have a sunken face  

and also theres a lot of  huge ripped veiny guys but their face looks RETARDED no joke i dont know how to explain it lol, like a mix of down syndrom and something else lol

Taking D-bol alone can make your face look like a pumpkin. I've known tons of guys that just ran test or D-bol/Anadrol and faces looked like a different person almost, mine included. Some guys don't hold that kind of water though and don't get the estrogen conversion as bad.

[~UN_$ung~]

you can run a lot of test and not hold that much water. same thing with caloric intake.

GH is responsible for the amount of water you see in competitors faces- and i'm not talking 4 units a day- thats 10-20 units plus ed... you take away the GH and their faces dramatically change, even on heavy test and heavy sodium/ calorie diets.

no, "test bloat" is much more profound then the water retention from GH

[g101]

Taking D-bol alone can make your face look like a pumpkin. I've known tons of guys that just ran test or D-bol/Anadrol and faces looked like a different person almost, mine included. Some guys don't hold that kind of water though and don't get the estrogen conversion as bad.

i remember running test dbol alone no ai ae or wtv my face was so bloated and red wasnt even funny

i went again on test dbol but! i used arimidex + nolva with ephedrine and i seriously had ZERO face bloat (on the body its a diff story  )
so many ppl were like "did you lose weight?"

[no one]

no, "test bloat" is much more profound then the water retention from GH

lol wrong.

i guess you've never been over 10iu a day.

if you had, you'd know what your talking about.

[Stavios]

lol wrong.

i guess you've never been over 10iu a day.

if you had, you'd know what your talking about.

Bro you should have seen the dude who won the local show today here in montreal (Coupe ProGym).
I'll send you pictures when they come out, dude was a light-heavy but with 20 lbs more he goes pro no problemo! 

coolest structure I have seen on a white dude, it was his first show.
ripppppppppppppped.


He was trained by IFBB Pro who was competing in the 90's, André Charette.
his guys are always peeled