Alistair Overeem claims he d have KOed a peak Tyson in 5!!in BOXING!!!

[NarcissisticDeity]

Tyson is still the yardstick in which being the ultimate bad-ass his measured by , everyone still uses him ( regardless if Overeem said this ) The Gracies wanted their shot at him , every new tuff-guy of the month claims they would have beaten him , he is the man they need to try and beat to prove something , Tyson owns a lot of minds

[Nails]

Tyson is still the yardstick in which being the ultimate bad-ass his measured by , everyone still uses him ( regardless if Overeem said this ) The Gracies wanted their shot at him , every new tuff-guy of the month claims they would have beaten him , he is the man they need to try and beat to prove something , Tyson owns a lot of minds

THIS

QFT

[monstercalves]

Ali and Foreman to name two would have given Mike huge problems. By huge problems i mean would have broke him down and stopped him.

You clearly know jack about boxing.

Mike was always known to be mentally frail, it was his biggest weakness. Fastest handspeed at heavy goes to Ali, although Mike obviously had more power.

Overeem wouldn't do anthing against Tyson, it would be domination. However Alistair has said nothing of the kind.

Darren talking like a #girl like normal.

ok i know jack .......  

everyone gives ali the nod when the issue of speed comes up, when infact tyson was faster

ali had outstanding accuracy combined with outstandning speed.

yes tysons biggest weakness was his mental state, while ali was the opposite

if you were fighting tyson when hes in the right frame of mind you would be swallowed up .....including an artist boxer like ali

[Deicide]

This dude is a retard.. He just wants some pub. No way anyone was whipping a Iron Mike Tyson in 1988..
"took a punch and smiled"
fuckin yeah right.. the mike tyson documentary shows the most devistating uppercuts known to man.

D-want to fight?

[monstercalves]

Tyson is still the yardstick in which being the ultimate bad-ass his measured by , everyone still uses him ( regardless if Overeem said this ) The Gracies wanted their shot at him , every new tuff-guy of the month claims they would have beaten him , he is the man they need to try and beat to prove something , Tyson owns a lot of minds

fighters fear him thats why..... and some have fancied their chances at taming him over the years

[Jaime]

ok i know jack .......  

everyone gives ali the nod when the issue of speed comes up, when infact tyson was faster

ali had outstanding accuracy combined with outstandning speed.

yes tysons biggest weakness was his mental state, while ali was the opposite

if you were fighting tyson when hes in the right frame of mind you would be swallowed up .....including an artist boxer like ali

Ok. The Green, Smith's, and Tucker's of this world survived Mike in his prime. Someone with Ali's style, footwork and chin would be poison for Mike.

Foreman would physically push him back like Holyfield did and unload uppercuts and bombs at will, swarmers couldn't beat foreman.

Cus D'Amato said this himself, you know, Mike's trainer...

Prime Ali is faster than Mike, he isn't as explosive and doesn't carry his power but he is faster.

I'm a huge Tyson fan but he had weaknesses in his style like anybody else. Styles make fights. Knocking over cans is a touch different to dominating ATG's.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Ok. The Green, Smith's, and Tucker's of this world survived Mike in his prime. Someone with Ali's style, footwork and chin would be poison for Mike.

Foreman would physically push him back like Holyfield did and unload uppercuts and bombs at will, swarmers couldn't beat foreman.

Cus D'Amato said this himself, you know, Mike's trainer...

Prime Ali is faster than Mike, he isn't as explosive and doesn't carry his power but he is faster.

I'm a huge Tyson fan but he had weaknesses in his style like anybody else. Styles make fights. Knocking over cans is a touch different to dominating ATG's.

Yeah Mike couldn't fight going backwards and this is exactly how Holyfield dismantled him and got Mike so frustrated.

[Option D]

D-want to fight?

LMAO   

[monstercalves]

Ok. The Green, Smith's, and Tucker's of this world survived Mike in his prime. Someone with Ali's style, footwork and chin would be poison for Mike.

Foreman would physically push him back like Holyfield did and unload uppercuts and bombs at will, swarmers couldn't beat foreman.

Cus D'Amato said this himself, you know, Mike's trainer...

Prime Ali is faster than Mike, he isn't as explosive and doesn't carry his power but he is faster.

I'm a huge Tyson fan but he had weaknesses in his style like anybody else. Styles make fights. Knocking over cans is a touch different to dominating ATG's.

yep good points there

naa i still dont see ali being faster, as u said tyson has the explosive speed and power behind it, what tyson lacks (not in general, just compared with ali) i thinks is accuracy combined with the speed

yep the styles thing of course..... tyson would always be at a reach disadvantage...and with ali's reach and footwork and ring craft, use of time, ring space & trying to burn the other fighter out.....

i think ali could win ,,,, i think if tyson was off mentally then ali could do what he did with foreman in '74 and i think he could burnout tyson/break him quicker than foreman .....

if a much lighter older henry cooper can daze and knockdown ali forcing dundee to use smalling salts and stall for time ..... then im sure an animal like tyson would have ali in trouble aswell

this could go on like ND & hulkster .... its the same old story ....comparing boxers from different eras

u make a good case and seem to know what ur talking about


 i think i secretly would just like to see tyson win ...... but ali was quite awesome and could beat anyone on the correct day

its all about whos the best on the day,whos the fitest whos in the best shape of their life

how often do u actually get 2 fighters together when they are both in the best shape of their life

all this bullshit comes into play

[Option D]

Mike Tyson was ken norton with speed...


A power puncher = always a wild card in a fight.. Advantage Mike

[Mrdibbs]

Typical arrogant dutchman.

That being said he should switch over to the sweet science and start making real money.

Klitschko's get payed more for one fight than Alistair in 5 years time.

[Jaime]

yep good points there

naa i still dont see ali being faster, as u said tyson has the explosive speed and power behind it, what tyson lacks (not in general, just compared with ali) i thinks is accuracy combined with the speed

yep the styles thing of course..... tyson would always be at a reach disadvantage...and with ali's reach and footwork and ring craft, use of time, ring space & trying to burn the other fighter out.....

i think ali could win ,,,, i think if tyson was off mentally then ali could do what he did with foreman in '74 and i think he could burnout tyson/break him quicker than foreman .....

if a much lighter older henry cooper can daze and knockdown ali forcing dundee to use smalling salts and stall for time ..... then im sure an animal like tyson would have ali in trouble aswell

this could go on like ND & hulkster .... its the same old story ....comparing boxers from different eras

u make a good case and seem to know what ur talking about


 i think i secretly would just like to see tyson win ...... but ali was quite awesome and could beat anyone on the correct day

its all about whos the best on the day,whos the fitest whos in the best shape of their life

how often do u actually get 2 fighters together when they are both in the best shape of their life

all this bullshit comes into play

Fair enough, you make good points too. We're talking about the some of the top fighters the sport has produced, nothing is certain.

Very rarely do two guys come in at their best, when you get two great fighters that do, you get fireworks. Arguello v Pryor comes to mind.

[Option D]

Hitman vs Haggler?

[tallgerman]

alist who?

pics?

[monstercalves]

Hitman vs Haggler?

haha!

the true Marvelous One!

[Option D]

haha!

the true Marvelous One!

Remember that fight.. 2 fighters at the top of their game.. going toe to toe in the middle if the ring

[tallgerman]

i know who Larry Holmes and Michael Spinks are ...but who in the FUCK is Alistair Overeem

I think some goofy mma guy on roids

[Darren Avey]

Tyson is still the yardstick in which being the ultimate bad-ass his measured by , everyone still uses him ( regardless if Overeem said this ) The Gracies wanted their shot at him , every new tuff-guy of the month claims they would have beaten him , he is the man they need to try and beat to prove something , Tyson owns a lot of minds

Really??What happened?

[no one]

speed kills.

[pellius]

Really??What happened?

Why don't you address the claim you made? Where's the link where Overeem said that? BTW, the Gracies had an open challenge to anyone, even boxers. This even went back to the days of Primo Carnera.

[Jaime]

Why don't you address the claim you made? Where's the link where Overeem said that? BTW, the Gracies had an open challenge to anyone, even boxers. This even went back to the days of Primo Carnera.

Kimura should have stopped their "challenges" when he ragdolled Helio.

Mike tyson along with 99% of the world probably never even heard of the Gracies and their floor rolling antics when they challenged him. Just publicity like most of the shit they do.

Overeem never said shit about Tyson, he doesn't have that type of personality anyway.

Darren being a fucking troll like normal.

[suckmymuscle]

"Man, id have loved to have boxed a peak Mike Tyson, id have whipped his ass, id have broken his spirit by laughing everytime he hit me, and then id have broken him physically with a brutal KO around the 5th."

  Overeem would destroy him. Tyson wouldn't connect. Overeem would clinch with him and knee his head to unconsciousness.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Jaime]

  Overeem would destroy him. Tyson wouldn't connect. Overeem would clinch with him and knee his head to unconsciousness.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Queensbury rules sounds like it's had a thorough overhaul.

[suckmymuscle]

Tyson is still the yardstick in which being the ultimate bad-ass his measured by , everyone still uses him ( regardless if Overeem said this ) The Gracies wanted their shot at him , every new tuff-guy of the month claims they would have beaten him , he is the man they need to try and beat to prove something , Tyson owns a lot of minds

  Dude, any MMA fighter at the UFC and PRIDE level would utterly demolish Tyson without even breaking a sweat. He is a one-dimensional boxer. He is not even a striker, but a hand striker. Not only does he have no ground game, he doesen't even have stand-up besides his fists. Even against pure strikers like the guys who fight in K-1, Tyson would be at a huge disadvantage because those guys use their legs and knees, and the legs have a greater reach and more power than the arms. Tyson would be knocked out by leg kicks or kneed to a coma. I do give Tyson a fighting chance, because he was very fast and powerful with his fists, but against a top MMA fighter he would probably lose because they would take him to the ground and submit him.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Option D]

Dude said he would laugh as mike punched him.. Mike would knock his block off