Alistair Overeem claims he d have KOed a peak Tyson in 5!!in BOXING!!!

[spinnis]

No standup vs boxing

(the whole issue was already proven at UFC 1 lol.

[The Showstoppa]

No standup vs boxing

(the whole issue was already proven at UFC 1 lol.

So you are comparing the best UFC fighter at the time vs a complete nobody boxer vs Tyson vs ANY UFC fighter?  C'mon.......

[spinnis]

So you are comparing the best UFC fighter at the time vs a complete nobody boxer vs Tyson vs ANY UFC fighter?  C'mon.......

im comparing a boxer to someone who had No standup at all...   just to prove how easy it would be for someone to take them down.. becusae tyson td defence isn't any better then that boxer and royce isn't even good at td's lol.

Now add standup, Wrestling background and high level grappling and it wouldn't matter if the other person was tyson or a nobody =)

[Mrdibbs]

1-2 kicks on the legs from Alister and tyson and every other boxer would be on the ground semi crying without managing to throw even one punch

Semi crying.

I know one ''man'' who cry's for real.



BENGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

Whos the dummy now midget?

[Option D]

So, do you think Tyson could beat ANY mma fighter? 

Any=All. Yes

[LurkyLurker]

Very Good post, however 1 point you made im not as certain with, you have to remember Tyson had alot more tools than Frazier and Norton, both were Excellent Fighters @ their Peaks and both IMO had STRONGER MENTALITY'S than Tyson, however both of them (with the possible exception of Frazier's LEFT hook) did not have Tyson's Lightning fast FOOT-SPEED, Head-movement, Devastating Body-shots, Fast powerful right hand, uppercuts with ethier hand, hooks with BOTH hands....and the 1 thing he had over all the Top Fighters of Foreman's generation....De-fence...for every punch Foreman would of thrown....and missed... he would of received 2 back lighting fast and VERY HARD, yes he would of pushed Tyson...bullied him...however Foreman's DE-FENCE IMO would of left himself way to open and that would of Spelled BAD NEWS for him against a young hungry Tyson IMO....

 Beaten Tyson in his PRIME??... id say the ONLY guy ive seen so far would of been LARRY HOLMES not Ali.....Larry in his Late 20s...Had the Speed, size, DE-FENCE, Fast long hard right hand, Powerful fast Jab, HEAD-MOVEMENT, CHIN, Ring craft and smarts and the main thing needed against Tyson @ his peak...THE Mentality to keep it together under pressure...Ali IMO would of gotten CAUGHT alot sooner than Frazier caught him in the 15th rd in there first fight as Tyson's Foot-speed and Hand-speed would of seen to that, and Yes Holyfeild "exposed Tyson" in the Head Smarts department in 1996-97 however Tyson was nearly a Decade past his absolute best,  just my opinion but Larry Holmes in his Prime would be a real tough, frustrating, demoralizing fight for a 20-22 year old Tyson.

Excellent point about Holmes, who may be the most underrated heavyweight in history. If it weren't for that bogus Spinks decision, Larry probably would have retired undefeated, like Marciano.

[pellius]

Excellent point about Holmes, who may be the most underrated heavyweight in history. If it weren't for that bogus Spinks decision, Larry probably would have retired undefeated, like Marciano.

So Darren Avery has not backed up his claim? I'm surprised because I started gaining some respect for him when he admitted, after asking people himself, that more people were aware and interested in MMA than boxing. They knew Brock and but didn't know who the heavyweight boxing champ was. I know that revelation pained him but he still admitted it. It's beyond me why he would just make something like this up.

BTW, reading this thread makes me miss boxing back in those days. What happened? Only Manny interests me now.

[G_Thang]

So, do you think Tyson could beat ANY mma fighter? 

in less than 3 punches in any parking lot in the world.

[20inch calves]

i don;t know if he could or couldn't beat tyson but he is talking about kickboxing right? if so..i don;'t know he could have had chance

[Darren Avey]

So Darren Avery has not backed up his claim? I'm surprised because I started gaining some respect for him when he admitted, after asking people himself, that more people were aware and interested in MMA than boxing. They knew Brock and but didn't know who the heavyweight boxing champ was. I know that revelation pained him but he still admitted it. It's beyond me why he would just make something like this up.

BTW, reading this thread makes me miss boxing back in those days. What happened? Only Manny interests me now.

Its on eastside boxing!!In the lounge!!! You have to register as a poster therefore i cant put the link up. The posters name is Dave Junior, yes MMA is more exciting than boxing now and will blow it completley away soon.

[spinnis]

Its on eastside boxing!!In the lounge!!! You have to register as a poster therefore i cant put the link up. The posters name is Dave Junior, yes MMA is more exciting than boxing now and will blow it completley away soon.

so your source is a random poster on a random forum ...without a source?

lol

[The Showstoppa]

in less than 3 punches in any parking lot in the world.

Poor Mitch Green......you know that was one punch and with his left, if i remember correctly.......hope someone ran over to Green and yelled "You just got knocked the fuck out !!!!!!" 

[spinnis]

Poor Mitch Green......you know that was one punch and with his left, if i remember correctly.......hope someone ran over to Green and yelled "You just got knocked the fuck out !!!!!!" 

sometimes I wish I was a pro fighter that had a beef with someone and ko'd him IN THE OCTAGON baby just so I could do that.

Instant legend 

[Darren Avey]

so your source is a random poster on a random forum ...without a source?

lol

Yeh, i find the best sources are the people who post on youtube comments section,someone on the comments  on a Mike Tyson video was saying that Tyson and Lenny Mclean were gonna have an organised street fight on a boat!!!

[dr.chimps]

in less than 3 punches in any parking lot in the world.

Mitch 'shop 'til I'm dropped' Green. It was at a jacket store, or something, wasn't it, at 2:00 am!?      

[spinnis]

Yeh, i find the best sources are the people who post on youtube comments section,someone on the comments  on a Mike Tyson video was saying that Tyson and Lenny Mclean were gonna have an organised street fight on a boat!!!

Mr t backed down from lenny  

lenny was a bad bad man. But not against tyson lol. would have been over quick lol.

[Darren Avey]

I doubt T backed down, T was a bad bad ass in his younger days, bouncer in South Side Chicago.Had a real mean reputation.

[spinnis]

I doubt T backed down, T was a bad bad ass in his younger days, bouncer in South Side Chicago.Had a real mean reputation.

probably due to movie roles. Didnt want him to risk getting hurt etc

[Darren Avey]

Thats the story even Lenny gave that T was getting into Rocky 3 and A Team and that and wanted to preserve himself,makes sense. Why try prove something in a street fight against some thug when you ve got a chance to be a star and a millionaire.

[spinnis]

Thats the story even Lenny gave that T was getting into Rocky 3 and A Team and that and wanted to preserve himself,makes sense. Why try prove something in a street fight against some thug when you ve got a chance to be a star and a millionaire.

Who do you think would win? I know lenny is fast and at least knows how to box to some extent. And I knew T has a notorious rep.. but lets say a organised stand up fight?

[Darren Avey]

Ive seen videos, some not online yet, of Mclean fighting,300+ lbs of rage, it would be hard to stop unless you re an elite all rounder like a Brock, Fedor type.

[Jaime]

 You are completely delusional if you think that Tyson would stand more than a puncher's chance against a top MMA fighter. He would be taken to the ground and either submitted or ground-and-pounded. If we are talking about Tyson against top K-1 strikers, his chances are better but he would most likely be kneed to a coma. Stop being such a...Tyson fanboy.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

You understand differences in formats you ape loving fuckwit?

First of all the original post alludes to boxing. Overeem would get destroyed in boxing in less than a round.

Secondly k-1 is a limited format, not full muay thai, no thai clinch, so no knees. k-1 is becoming a refuge of shitty boxing with some kicks added. The heavyweight division is paper thin. If any of these guys could crossover to boxing they would.

Basically he would have to learn to check leg kicks.

In mma he gets taken down and subbed if he doesn't land straight away.

If you got second rate strikers like Carwin, Cain et cetera trying to work out of the clinch standing in mma they get knocked out.

[Jaime]

1-2 kicks on the legs from Alister and tyson and every other boxer would be on the ground semi crying without managing to throw even one punch

Haha yeah ok little one. When does this ever happen?
Checking leg kicks is about the easiest thing you learn in striking.

[ManBearPig...]

some people make themselves into legends.  tyson is one of them.  while he's immortalized forever, these fly by night assholes who claim they can kick his ass will come and go.

"i'll fuck you til you love me, f.aggot" is what mike tyson would say to anyone who got in his face, even today.

[spinnis]

Haha yeah ok little one. When does this ever happen?
Checking leg kicks is about the easiest thing you learn in striking.

didnt know boxers learnt that haha