1st Terrorist in civilian court in NYC cleared of MURDER charges. WE TOLD YOU!

[Soul Crusher]

DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!! He was cleared of charges thats fucked up. So he got off and is free now? Where is he partying at?

   

Read GW's post above and get a clue.   Law aint your thing bro.    

[Option D]

 

Read GW's post above and get a clue.   Law aint your thing bro.    

i didnt read the thread.. i read the title and it said he got off...why am i getting the rolley eyes.. im goin off your title. It said he was clear of charges..Did they deport him? Where is he? Answer my questions

[Option D]

i didnt read the thread.. i read the title and it said he got off...why am i getting the rolley eyes.. im goin off your title. It said he was clear of charges..Did they deport him? Where is he? Answer my questions

bump for answers.. he got cleared of charges right...where is he now? did they deport him?

[Soul Crusher]

bump for answers.. he got cleared of charges right...where is he now? did they deport him?

He got convicted of the least charge and is awaiting sentencing.  However, almost every single serious charge was bounced and he was cleared when the evidence showed he was knee deep in the deaths of over 200 people. 

This is a complete farce and perfect example of what we said was going to happen.   

[Option D]

He got convicted of the least charge and is awaiting sentencing.  However, almost every single serious charge was bounced and he was cleared when the evidence showed he was knee deep in the deaths of over 200 people. 

This is a complete farce and perfect example of what we said was going to happen.   

What was the least charge. And in NY what is the average sentence for that charge?

[kcballer]

How is this bad?  He was convicted and will be sentenced.  He will spend 20+ years in solitary or at a supermax for "his own protection". 

This is a win for justice and freedom.  If there isn't enough evidence and/or they can not convict him of a crime then that is the way the law is suppose to work.  Indefinite detention is the stupidest idea America ever had.  It once again shows arrogance and basically tells the world "you are not equal to us so you don't get our rights".  So much for being the beacon of the world for freedom when that's the attitude. 

[Soul Crusher]

What was the least charge. And in NY what is the average sentence for that charge?

He was convicted o conspiracy, but not the over 200 deaths that resulted from said conspiracy, which legally is a complete facr ala OJ Simpson jury.  

Sentencing can be from 20 years to life,  20 years means probably 15-17.  

[Soul Crusher]

How is this bad?  He was convicted and will be sentenced.  He will spend 20+ years in solitary or at a supermax for "his own protection". 

This is a win for justice and freedom.  If there isn't enough evidence and/or they can not convict him of a crime then that is the way the law is suppose to work.  Indefinite detention is the stupidest idea America ever had.  It once again shows arrogance and basically tells the world "you are not equal to us so you don't get our rights".  So much for being the beacon of the world for freedom when that's the attitude. 

  

This piece of shit killed over 200 people and the most inciriminiating evidence was tossed due to the method of how said evidence was obtained.   Soldiers are not cops and dont adhere to criminal procedures thinking these killers are goin to be on trial. 

But I guess reality does not really matter.   

[The Showstoppa]

What do you guys not get?  He was convicted of conspiracy, so therefore BY LAW, he is connected to whatever crime he was "conspiring" on....so therefore he was convicted of conspriracy in the deaths of 200+ people, yet won't be sentenced based on that.


Get it?

[kcballer]

 

This piece of shit killed over 200 people and the most inciriminiating evidence was tossed due to the method of how said evidence was obtained.   Soldiers are not cops and dont adhere to criminal procedures thinking these killers are goin to be on trial. 

But I guess reality does not really matter.   

And yet he was still convicted and will be sentenced.  This is a wake up call that our soldiers will need to abide by the laws of this country overseas and will need to understand the rights of a prisoner.  

Overall i see it as a big win for America and for freedom.    

[Option D]

He was convicted o conspiracy, but not the over 200 deaths that resulted from said conspiracy, which legally is a complete facr ala OJ Simpson jury.  

Sentencing can be from 20 years to life,  20 years means probably 15-17.  

So he is getting atleat 15 years right

Dude. maybe you want to change this misleading ass title "Guy cleared of charges" but in the thread you say "well he was charged and he will do 15 years atleast" come on bro there is no need for this type of fuckery. you dont need to go all fox news, pick and choose, leave shot out, in your thread title. You are looking for effect but to smart people you look like an asshole.. cmon, youre better than that

[Fury]

15 years for playing a direct role in the murder of TWO HUNDRED TWENTY-FOUR PEOPLE. Let's celebrate that! Fuck yeah!

Can't wait to hear the talk when KSM ends up getting a slap on the wrist.

[The Showstoppa]

And yet he was still convicted and will be sentenced.  This is a wake up call that our soldiers will need to abide by the laws of this country overseas and will need to understand the rights of a prisoner.  

Overall i see it as a big win for America and for freedom.    

WTF?  Soldiers aren't cops........should have just double-tapped this sack of shit and been done with it.  that is the ONLY thing they understand.

[Option D]

15 years for playing a direct role in the murder of TWO HUNDRED TWENTY-FOUR PEOPLE. Let's celebrate that! Fuck yeah!  

Can't wait to hear the talk when KSM ends up getting a slap on the wrist.

If you had to put your life on a bet, do you bet he will get 15 years?

[The Showstoppa]

If you had to put your life on a bet, do you bet he will get 15 years?

With any luck the pile of shit will take a shiv to the kidney on his very first day.....

[Fury]

If you had to put your life on a bet, do you bet he will get 15 years?

It doesn't matter. This guy was up to his neck in the mass murder of hundreds of people and ended up getting arguably the best outcome of it.

It's funny that's it now an accomplishment that a mass murder ends up guilty on one charge.

You really think the Obama admin is happy with that? I would bet they're not. Do you think this bodes well for the argument of trying KSM in a civilian court? I would bet it doesn't.

[Option D]

With any luck the pile of shit will take a shiv to the kidney on his very first day.....

oh he chose option d by default.. its on like donkey kong...

[Option D]

It doesn't matter. This guy was up to his neck in the mass murder of hundreds of people and ended up getting arguably the best outcome of it.

It's funny that's it now an accomplishment that a mass murder ends up guilty on one charge.

You really think the Obama admin is happy with that? I would bet they're not. Do you think this bodes well for the argument of trying KSM in a civilian court? I would bet it doesn't.

But what do you think? if you had to bet....would you say 15 years?

[Fury]

But what do you think? if you had to bet....would you say 15 years?

Why would I bet on it? It's a colossal failure of epic proportions. This guy should have 224 life sentences hung around his neck and instead we're arguing how many years he'll get for the single conspiracy charge he was found guilty of.

Awesome.

[Option D]

Why would I bet on it? It's a colossal failure of epic proportions. This guy should have 224 life sentences hung around his neck and instead we're arguing how many years he'll get for the single conspiracy charge he was found guilty of.

Awesome.

i would venture to say he will never see the light of day

[kcballer]

WTF?  Soldiers aren't cops........should have just double-tapped this sack of shit and been done with it.  that is the ONLY thing they understand.

They aren't right now, but this precedent could mean they will either have to kill said terrorist or detain in a way that any evidence that can be used will be legally usable. 

[Fury]

i would venture to say he will never see the light of day

The possibility of him being able to see the light of day now because of the massive failure that was this trial is reason enough to declare it a disaster.

And this isn't exactly good news for the people who want to have KSM's trial in NYC.

[The Showstoppa]

They aren't right now, but this precedent could mean they will either have to kill said terrorist or detain in a way that any evidence that can be used will be legally usable. 

I vote option 1.....    Seriously, we are putting our soldiers in a very awkward position with this as a precedent.

[Soul Crusher]

So he is getting atleat 15 years right

Dude. maybe you want to change this misleading ass title "Guy cleared of charges" but in the thread you say "well he was charged and he will do 15 years atleast" come on bro there is no need for this type of fuckery. you dont need to go all fox news, pick and choose, leave shot out, in your thread title. You are looking for effect but to smart people you look like an asshole.. cmon, youre better than that

Mal - lets say some shitbag murders your whole family.   Are you going to jump for joy when the jury clears him of the murder charge but convicts him only on weapons possession?   

[kcballer]

I vote option 1.....    Seriously, we are putting our soldiers in a very awkward position with this as a precedent.

I agree to a degree, but that's going to be what it takes if we want to detain and interrogate these individuals.