Author Topic: 1st Terrorist in civilian court in NYC cleared of MURDER charges. WE TOLD YOU!  (Read 15273 times)

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thank you i said that at the beginning of this post, and all that fuckstick does is change the subject, typ.

280 charges dropped - 1 bogus one stuck - yeah great victory - for TEAM "THE ONE" 


ha ha ha   

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For real?  ::) we pointin out typos. ok you do that

Alls im saying is to say someone got off but will serve 20-life... its wrong.

Details obviously aint your thing.  I hope that changes before you decide to do surgery on someone. 


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280 charges dropped - 1 bogus one stuck - yeah great victory - for TEAM "THE ONE" 


ha ha ha   
You are so not getting.. Nobody likes this, but im still not gonna use mark twain like hyperbole to get it accross. ITs just not responsible. Just say what really happened. Its not that tough.

Terroist asshole gets off on serious charges, but still gets 20-life..


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Details obviously aint your thing.  I hope that changes before you decide to do surgery on someone. 



So he isnt gonna get 20 to life?

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So he isnt gonna get 20 to life?

No, he was cleared of charges, haven't you heard?

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And Obviously you arent big on details and the truth....Obama called Swat on Grandmothers
Insurance company sent me 40% rate increase because of obama care
Terroist got cleared of charges...


All of those are threads by you where you were caught misleading and leaving shit out....so...save your sly monkey ass insults to my intelligence and just have a conversation like a grown man. I think you mislead and showed you examples of why. Just tell me why you think what you wrote was 100% full and accurate without all the other shit about my educational background.

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They filed 280 charges against this guy for murder of over 200 people, plus one charge of conspiracy to destroy govt property. 

The murder charges were all dropped and they found him gulty of the equavalent of paintin graffitii on a tank.  Yeah great victory asswipe.   ::)  ::) 

Plus, to boot, not that I expect you to remotely grasp this concept due to your leftist leanings, the judge in this case set the precedent of tossing all evidence arguably a result of coercive techniques.

So guess what Mal - KSM - GITMO, and all the rest of these killers are going to stay inGITMO frever and neither get a military trial or another civi trial, all due to the utter incompetence of Obama/Holder.

Again - if a guy comes, rapes your wife, kills your kids, burns the house down, sends you a note as to how happy he was doing it, are you ok with all those charges being dropped and cleared and him only getting a minor weapons' charge? 

YES OR NO?       

 

 

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call him for what he is, a liar ;D

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call him for what he is, a liar ;D

Coming from the hack who steals others posts, yes whatever.  don't you have Arnolds' thread to reply to? 

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 :D :D :D

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They filed 280 charges against this guy for murder of over 200 people, plus one charge of conspiracy to destroy govt property. 

The murder charges were all dropped and they found him gulty of the equavalent of paintin graffitii on a tank.  Yeah great victory asswipe.   ::)  ::) 

Plus, to boot, not that I expect you to remotely grasp this concept due to your leftist leanings, the judge in this case set the precedent of tossing all evidence arguably a result of coercive techniques.

So guess what Mal - KSM - GITMO, and all the rest of these killers are going to stay inGITMO frever and neither get a military trial or another civi trial, all due to the utter incompetence of Obama/Holder.

Again - if a guy comes, rapes your wife, kills your kids, burns the house down, sends you a note as to how happy he was doing it, are you ok with all those charges being dropped and cleared and him only getting a minor weapons' charge? 

YES OR NO?       

 

 
nO I WOULDNT LIKE IT . But if guy was facing 20 years-Life i still couldnt say he got off......because he will be in jail for next 20 years. Would i want him to get more.. yes.. But i just dont have the extreme hyperbole in my DNA... i thought women and mark twain did that

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But he was convicted of a charge and will serve time, you dont see how your title is misleading?

Cuz i can say "Terroist convicted of charge and will face 20 to life sentence" and i would be right.



Not only that, ...he's also not the first terrorist ever to be tried in a civilian court.
Sounds to me like people are screaming for a reason to scream and hate on Obama.

And if the judge hadn't thrown out that evidence, he would have grounds to appeal.
Rightly or wrongly, the guy is going away for 20 yrs to life, will more than likely die in prison, and they're complaining? ???
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Jesus h christ. What the fuck am i doing here... ::) listen fuckstick
I DONT LIKE THE OUTCOME OF THE CASE EITHER>> ITS LIKE REALLY FUCKED UP...But the title says he was "cleared of charges" not "cleared of most charges" "cleared of some Charges" "cleared of the most serious charges" It says "cleared of charges" ...but the dude will actually serve 20-life. Please tell me you see where im coming from because im damn near starting to loose faith in the human race




The title also doesn't say "cleared of all charges", maybe you just assumed wrong.


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What are the chances this guy can get off this remaining charge on appeal?

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Not only that, ...he's also not the first terrorist ever to be tried in a civilian court.
Sounds to me like people are screaming for a reason to scream and hate on Obama.

And if the judge hadn't thrown out that evidence, he would have grounds to appeal.
Rightly or wrongly, the guy is going away for 20 yrs to life, will more than likely die in prison, and they're complaining? ???
If they would have gave him death by hanging 333 would say Obama sucked because they should ave burned him at the stake ::)

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Jag, if you know as much about American law as you do about wiping your ass, then I would venture to say you're full of shit. How do you know he will die in prison? How do you know that he would have grounds to appeal? What law school did you attend again? Stick to posting fantasy land conspiracy theories that people mock, posting with gimmick accounts and inventing facts out of thin air.

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The title also doesn't say "cleared of all charges", maybe you just assumed wrong.


George, 33,

What are the chances this guy can get off this remaining charge on appeal?

For real skip.. you get the shaq face for that

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For real skip.. you get the shaq face for that




Too bad that doesn't come with his paycheck, :D

What's all this Option D and your name change.  I must have missed a thread somewhere.

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Getting 20 years for murdering 200 people isn't bad. Mal some of your "homeboys" have received more time for getting caught shoplifting 3 times under CA's 3 strikes and you’re out law. It doesn't make you angry that an Al Qaeda member who is responsible for the murder of 200 innocent people, who was not an American citizen, who had no connection with this country whatsoever besides his fevered attempts to destroy American interests and kill American people, is probably going to be sent home (receiving a hero's welcome home of course) after 20 years in American prison with 3 meals a day, shelter and cable TV that is being subsidized with your tax money?

Maybe you are too ignorant to engage in serious debate. Not just you, but everyone here who thinks this isn't a travesty. The bigger issue besides this farce of a verdict is what happens the next time and the time after that. The American criminal justice system is not equipped to handle foreign terrorists that wage war against the United States. That is why we have military tribunals and why Guantanamo was opened in the first place.
 Those of you who have even the slightest bit of understanding of what is at stake here should be furious over this verdict and the potential ramifications it will have for future Al Qaeda prosecutions. I spent an entire semester being taught by a federal judge (who is still on the bench by the way) with prosecutorial experience in terrorism cases. I memorized the patriot act, FISA, the material support statute of the U.S. Code ( as well as article 7, sections of the UCMJ, the AUMF which was passed by Congress giving Bush the power to invade Iraq and Afghanistan)and every other piece of legislation that was introduced since 911 to fight terrorism. I sat through lectures by FBI agents, the defense attorney of Al Qaeda convert Jose Padilla and case study after case study to the point of nausea.  Point blank, I know what the fuck I'm talking about and 99% of you don’t
 Guilt and innocence are going to be weighed against revealing state secrets, embedded terrorist informants, counter terrorism measures and while that is being mulled over, the prospect of a known terrorist going free is going to hinge on variables such as the judge, the jury pool and the ability of the prosecutor versus the talent of the defense attorney.  These are not routine criminal prosecutions and should not be treated as such for a multitude of reasons. If this latest verdict is any indication of things to come, we are royally fucked. You want to talk about emboldening the enemy? You think someone willing to die for their cause wouldn’t murder 200 people and receive 20 years in an American prison as their punishment? I just hope that when one of these martyrs comes to that realization, you or someone you love isn’t among the pile of rubble that is left behind.


Wow GW, why can't you post like this all the time, ...clear, well reasoned, articulate, and devoid of childish insults.
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Why not just change the thread title to "cleared of all but 1 charge" and move on ffs.

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If they would have gave him death by hanging 333 would say Obama sucked because they should ave burned him at the stake ::)

Mal - I don't expect you to grasp the intricate details of this - but its a legal disaster.  There is no way to spin this by hanging your $300 Granny Glasses on it.   

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The title also doesn't say "cleared of all charges", maybe you just assumed wrong.


George, 33,

What are the chances this guy can get off this remaining charge on appeal?

;D  :-X

Jag, if you know as much about American law as you do about wiping your ass, then I would venture to say you're full of shit. How do you know he will die in prison? How do you know that he would have grounds to appeal? What law school did you attend again? Stick to posting fantasy land conspiracy theories that people mock, posting with gimmick accounts and inventing facts out of thin air.

Doncha know, googly-eyes has a 160 IQ!

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Too bad that doesn't come with his paycheck, :D

What's all this Option D and your name change.  I must have missed a thread somewhere.

Damn you missed it. Its a lot now but basically it went like this.. Someone called Billy Min gay. He goes off.
then he goes in on hedge i think about his lifts and bodybuilding and what not and then he says
"and if any of you motherfuckers want to come to Indiana we can
A-Compare lifts with me
B-Compare contest record with me
C-Compare life success (something like that)
D-Want to fight

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Mal - I don't expect you to grasp the intricate details of this - but its a legal disaster.  There is no way to spin this by hanging your $300 Granny Glasses on it.   

Im not spinning it. YOu are the one who spinned it. I said exactly what it is. You said he was clear of charges and i say he got 20-life.. we are both right.. correct?

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Are you guys happy now - I changed the title to make you ignorant fools happy.  

Regardless - its a complete legal fisaco and even Jim Webb, Dem. VA realizes it.  

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Nice.. very nice. and accurate.