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In 'The War on Christmas,' Christmas is winning
« on: November 22, 2010, 02:44:09 PM »
Before reading the article here are my thoughts in rap/poem/limerick form....

Look who decided to grow some balls...

Christmas is back with a bunch of bags,
filled with toys and balls but these aint for fags,
and liberals that don't have our best interests in mind,
there goes the Turkeys and cranberries, here comes the cheese and wine

I hope you packed up a lunch cause it's going twelve rounds,
Keep treadin' on me punk, your face meets the ground,

But don't get it twisted I'm no conservative either,
I couldn't give a fuck, left, right, I'm neither,

Aint no one stoppin' you from celebratin' what you do
I couldn't give a shit, oopsie, I mean doo-doo

Got keep it PC for the sensitive sissies,
Gotta look out for Prince Vince and his Queen Ms. Vissy

Just want my country back, to the good ol' days,
when just the whites and the blacks, could just celebrate

And not have worry about what the fuck we say,
So I say MERRY CHRISTMAS and have a nice day...

 :-*

FUCK OFF


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40260889/ns/business-consumer_news

NEW YORK — The War on Christmas may be in its final days.

This season, merry Christmas — not happy holidays or season's greetings — will dominate retailer's marketing messages. There will be Christmas sales and Christmas trees and Christmas carols galore.

That has the American Family Association, arguably one of the loudest voices advocating the use of Christmas in retailer's marketing messages over the past few years, predicting that its crusade could conclude in the next year or two.

Randy Sharp, director-special projects at the AFA, said that in the past five years the group has seen the percentage of retailers recognizing Christmas in their advertising rise from 20 percent to 80 percent. Just eight retailers are left on the group's list of "Companies Against Christmas."

It's also become more challenging to find a large, national retailer to single out for the group's annual boycott. This year, Dick's Sporting Goods, which boasts an online "Holiday Shop," will be the target of the boycott. The AFA is expected to send an Action Alert to its 2.3 million supporters on Friday morning. That alert will urge shoppers to boycott Dick's between now and Dec. 25. It also calls for consumers to e-mail President-Chief Operating Officer Joseph Schmidt and then call Chief Marketing Officer Jeff Hennion. The retailer declined to comment. In the past, Target, Sears, Gap and Walmart have been targets.

"We've had a complete flip," Mr. Sharp says. "The politically correct holiday verbiage is going away. Companies are getting the message."

Indeed, retailers that have found themselves the target of boycotts or media and consumer scrutiny have responded swiftly in recent years. Lowe's "Family Trees" were renamed "Christmas Trees," while Walmart's "Holiday Shop" is now a "Christmas Shop." Midway through the 2005 holiday season, Target, facing a boycott, announced its advertising messages would become more specific and include references to Christmas. And last year, Gap responded to a boycott by issuing a press release highlighting the use of the phrase "Merry Christmas" in its upcoming Old Navy ads.

Mr. Sharp stopped short of saying that he was surprised by how quickly and readily most retailers have changed their marketing. But he did point out that, especially in this type of economic environment, retailers are being careful not to alienate customers.

"Shoppers vote with their wallets every day," said Ellen Davis, a VP at the National Retail Federation. "[When it comes to boycotts,] retailers realize, 'It could just as easily have been us.' "

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The NRF does not formally advise retailers on whether they should use the word Christmas, but Ms. Davis said it does provide statistics. This year's NRF/BigResearch survey found that 91 percent of consumers plan to celebrate Christmas, compared with 5% for Hanukkah and 2% for Kwanzaa.

"Retailers dipped their toe into the Christmas waters again last year, and there wasn't much push back. There wasn't a huge outcry from groups offended that retailers were saying Merry Christmas," said Ms. Davis. "We see the word Christmas being used much more this year than three or four years ago. The pendulum seems to have swung back."

The "extreme backlash" to generic holiday messaging likely caught retailers off guard in years past, Ms. Davis added. Now, phrasing around the holidays is much more strategic. "At this point, it's a conscious decision. It's not just whimsical phrases being tossed around in the marketing department," she said. "These are conversations that are now probably taking place in the C-Suite."

Retailers certainly tread carefully when it comes to the subject of Christmas. Major retailers such as JCPenney and Target said they don't have formal policies on in-store greetings. And retailers ranging from Gap to Macy's and RadioShack to Sears emphasized their inclusion and respect for shoppers of different beliefs, while noting that at least some of their marketing messages include the word Christmas. RadioShack, however, still appears on the AFA's list of "Companies Against Christmas." A RadioShack spokesman declined to comment on that distinction.


Plenty view the tactics of the AFA and other groups as bullying, but Mr. Sharp rejects that. "It's not bullying, it's consumer advocacy," he said. The AFA's stance is that retailers should not profit from Christmas, if they refuse to clearly acknowledge it. "When your advertising has trees and ornaments and gift wrapping, you're advertising Christmas, so don't call it holiday," Mr. Sharp said, adding that the group is not at all offended by Happy Hanukkah messages.


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Re: In 'The War on Christmas,' Christmas is winning
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2010, 02:51:14 PM »
I hate the holiday season.... Worst portion of the year. I wish they would do away with xmas all together. Thanksgiving is nice but ditch the rest. It is all a ploy for retailers to make money.

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Re: In 'The War on Christmas,' Christmas is winning
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2010, 02:54:44 PM »
I hate the holiday season.... Worst portion of the year. I wish they would do away with xmas all together. Thanksgiving is nice but ditch the rest. It is all a ploy for retailers to make money.

I understand but you understand my point correct?
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Re: In 'The War on Christmas,' Christmas is winning
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2010, 02:55:52 PM »
I understand but you understand my point correct?
Sure but those days are long gone my friend. That was a zeitgeist and i don't believe that those can return.

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Re: In 'The War on Christmas,' Christmas is winning
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2010, 02:57:30 PM »
I asked my Father if Xmas has just degraded because i've aged and have a different perspective or if the holiday was ruined by marketing and other factors. He responded with the later. He said it used to be nice at one time and now it was ruined. I hate the fucking holiday personally. I don't like the thought of giving gifts. I think it is a sign of aggression.

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Re: In 'The War on Christmas,' Christmas is winning
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2010, 03:05:05 PM »
I asked my Father if Xmas has just degraded because i've aged and have a different perspective or if the holiday was ruined by marketing and other factors. He responded with the later. He said it used to be nice at one time and now it was ruined. I hate the fucking holiday personally. I don't like the thought of giving gifts. I think it is a sign of aggression.

People should be in the gym training, not hanging around the mistletoe and handing out fruity "gifts".   ::)


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Re: In 'The War on Christmas,' Christmas is winning
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2010, 03:05:49 PM »
Same thing every year.  "It's called Christmas dammit, yabba yabba yabba."  


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Re: In 'The War on Christmas,' Christmas is winning
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2010, 03:14:30 PM »
the jews don't let us celebrate :'(
tank u jesus

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Re: In 'The War on Christmas,' Christmas is winning
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2010, 04:37:53 PM »
the jews don't let us celebrate :'(
Just trying to do you a favor and save you from yourselves before its too late.

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Re: In 'The War on Christmas,' Christmas is winning
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2010, 06:13:28 PM »
I bought my Christmas tree today

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Re: In 'The War on Christmas,' Christmas is winning
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2010, 08:50:10 PM »
Christmas, the celebration of the birth of Santa.  An utterly retarded holiday.

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Re: In 'The War on Christmas,' Christmas is winning
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2010, 08:55:26 PM »
To paraphrase Boondocks, "Christmas was originally a pagan holiday where roman men gave their male lovers presents and punched their wives."

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Re: In 'The War on Christmas,' Christmas is winning
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2010, 09:00:01 PM »
 Christmas is good.

 Christians need to be destroyed.

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Re: In 'The War on Christmas,' Christmas is winning
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2010, 05:23:30 AM »
Merry Christmas !!!!!!

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Re: In 'The War on Christmas,' Christmas is winning
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2010, 05:53:59 AM »
I hate the holiday season.... Worst portion of the year. I wish they would do away with xmas all together. Thanksgiving is nice but ditch the rest. It is all a ploy for retailers to make money.

x2.  We gave up on xmas years ago in my family.  For us it is simply a time for the family to get together (since we are all so spread out).  All the kids in my family know, that you have to be under 10 in order to get a gift and there is definitely no gifts/exchanges between the adults.  No black Friday, no cyber Monday, no parking hassles or crowds at the mall., etc.  Setting aside all that BS lets us really enjoy the holiday. 8)

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Re: In 'The War on Christmas,' Christmas is winning
« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2010, 10:47:29 AM »
There was never a War on Christmas.  It's a boogieman created by Fox to make their viewers feel like victims so that the viewers watch more Fox News.

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Re: In 'The War on Christmas,' Christmas is winning
« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2010, 10:50:49 AM »
My favorite Holiday BY FAR is 4th of July. 

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Re: In 'The War on Christmas,' Christmas is winning
« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2010, 10:53:03 AM »
There was never a War on Christmas.  It's a boogieman created by Fox to make their viewers feel like victims so that the viewers watch more Fox News.

i know you do your shopping in Boystown mostly, but there was absolutely a fucking war on christmas the last few years.  you're pulling this purely out of your penis stuffed ass.
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Re: In 'The War on Christmas,' Christmas is winning
« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2010, 10:54:36 AM »
i know you do your shopping in Boystown mostly, but there was absolutely a fucking war on christmas the last few years.  you're pulling this purely out of your penis stuffed ass.
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Re: In 'The War on Christmas,' Christmas is winning
« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2010, 11:01:28 AM »
The older I get the more presents I give and the less presents I get :(

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Re: In 'The War on Christmas,' Christmas is winning
« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2010, 11:05:06 AM »
I asked my Father if Xmas has just degraded because i've aged and have a different perspective or if the holiday was ruined by marketing and other factors. He responded with the later. He said it used to be nice at one time and now it was ruined. I hate the fucking holiday personally. I don't like the thought of giving gifts. I think it is a sign of aggression.

I use it to show my dominance over people.
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Re: In 'The War on Christmas,' Christmas is winning
« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2010, 11:15:31 AM »
I understand but you understand my point correct?
I didn't know anyone bombed a manger scene and started a war on "Christmas"

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Re: In 'The War on Christmas,' Christmas is winning
« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2010, 01:44:02 PM »
My favorite Holiday BY FAR is 4th of July. 

Me too. It's my birthday.  8)

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Re: In 'The War on Christmas,' Christmas is winning
« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2010, 01:47:10 PM »
x2.  We gave up on xmas years ago in my family.  For us it is simply a time for the family to get together (since we are all so spread out).  All the kids in my family know, that you have to be under 10 in order to get a gift and there is definitely no gifts/exchanges between the adults.  No black Friday, no cyber Monday, no parking hassles or crowds at the mall., etc.  Setting aside all that BS lets us really enjoy the holiday. 8)

What?? No Kwanzaa? :)
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Re: In 'The War on Christmas,' Christmas is winning
« Reply #24 on: November 23, 2010, 02:19:29 PM »
We can't say "Christmas" anymore, because we may offend the islamofascists.  ::) 
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