80s physiques (before gh and insulin ruined bodybuilding)

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thierry pastel

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first pic (nubret and bannout) is from early 80s (i think) second pic is from late 70s or early 80s. nubret has small joints.

[flexingtonsteele]

first pic (nubret and bannout) is from early 80s (i think) second pic is from late 70s or early 80s. nubret has small bones.

Serge said he never weighed over 210lbs @ 6ft tall onstage in his life. He said this on the ironage message boards.
 
He was just freaky taking that into consideration.

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Serge said he never weighed over 210lbs @ 6ft tall onstage in his life. He said this on the ironage message boards.
 
He was just freaky taking that into consideration.

yes he had round and full muscle bellies and small joints. amazing bodybuilder.  

 he doesn't have the bloated massive gh and insulin look that so many of todays bodybuilders have.

I read that he was 212-214lbs in stage ready condition for mr olympia in 1975 but he was told he couldn't compete so he got depressed and lost a bunch of weight and then later he was told that he could compete and stepped on stage weighing approx 200lbs.  (this was said by serge himself)

the 80s physiques were so crisp and ripped..very inspiring.

[gh15]

all the sucessful fellas in the early 80 and before hand had very good natural gh in body ,,at max release,,that was major thing in their sucess,,this is also why they quit very young comparing to today ,,because the gh droped and there was no syntetic replacement,,they came back later for one more time usually late 80s or early 90s because they had gh to play with but they were too old inrelashion to younger bodybuilder on gh and steroids,,

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[First Blood]

all the sucessful fellas in the early 80 and before hand had very good natural gh in body ,,at max release,,that was major thing in their sucess,,this is also why they quit very young comparing to today ,,because the gh droped and there was no syntetic replacement,,they came back later for one more time usually late 80s or early 90s because they had gh to play with but they were too old inrelashion to younger bodybuilder on gh and steroids,,

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thank you for your post gh15. I'm a big fan of your posts. 

I remember you mentioning that some bodybuilders experimented in 70s and also during the 80s with cadaver GH (from ussr) but it was only very limited experimentation and the foundation was built with AAS and not via AAS + massive gh and insulin use and thus they never outgrew their frames and could also maintain the crisp look.

[gh15]

foundation built with nothing,,natural,, after that you solidify this foundation for good and advanced level with steroids,,and lastly YOU GROW with hgh,,

3 stages,,

natural training for few years,,
steroids added for thicknening and blowing up to max genetic potential,,
add gh for mutation and surpassing genetic potential so you can look like kid kuklo

the end

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[First Blood]

look at how many fibers pastel has in his biceps 

[First Blood]

foundation built with nothing,,natural,, after that you solidify this foundation for good and advanced level with steroids,,and lastly YOU GROW with hgh,,

3 stages,,

natural training for few years,,
steroids added for thicknening and blowing up to max genetic potential,,
add gh for mutation and surpassing genetic potential so you can look like kid kuklo

the end

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yes exactly.  that is what I meant.  

insulin is stage 4?

[flinstones1]

foundation built with nothing,,natural,, after that you solidify this foundation for good and advanced level with steroids,,and lastly YOU GROW with hgh,,

3 stages,,

natural training for few years,,
steroids added for thicknening and blowing up to max genetic potential,,
add gh for mutation and surpassing genetic potential so you can look like kid kuklo

the end

gh15 approved

kuclo was competing at 220 as a teenager and he probably was not on gh at the time.

[mass243]

thank you for your post gh15. I'm a big fan of your posts. 

I remember you mentioning that some bodybuilders experimented in 70s and also during the 80s with cadaver GH (from ussr) but it was only very limited experimentation and the foundation was built with AAS and not via AAS + massive gh and insulin use and thus they never outgrew their frames and could also maintain the crisp look.

Man, that stuff was some HC. Very expensive. Very rare.

Not saying I've used it, LOL, but I've heard some good ol' stories.

[Boost]

Nubret had the most desirable physique in history IMO

Labrada, Zane and Ray etc, they're great but kinda short.

Serge had it all. tall, not missing anything. Perfect proportions.

Bob Paris is close in terms of height with a complete physique

[First Blood]

Man, that stuff was some HC. Very expensive. Very rare.

Not saying I've used it, LOL, but I've heard some good ol' stories.

I read chris dickerson tried it and it cause bone growth on him. maybe explains the pointy elbows? but from what I understand pointy elbows can also be caused by calcium deposists?

[First Blood]

Man, that stuff was some HC. Very expensive. Very rare.

Not saying I've used it, LOL, but I've heard some good ol' stories.

please share some stories if you have time and energy to do so! 

[First Blood]

Nubret had the most desirable physique in history IMO

Labrada, Zane and Ray etc, they're great but kinda short.

Serge had it all. tall, not missing anything. Perfect proportions.

Bob Paris is close in terms of height with a complete physique

yes nubret was simply incredible! that first pic you posted was taken just before the 75 olympia when he was weighing 212-214lbs and was in the shape of his life! before he was told he couldn't compete (he was still later allowed to compete)

[lesaucer]

first pic (nubret and bannout) is from early 80s (i think) second pic is from late 70s or early 80s. nubret has small joints.

these physiques were built on aas alone, no GH! cant believe how so many gym rat people jump on GH and pay full street price blowing all their money away and yet they never tried to go over 1g of test before, atleast only to see if they would gain more...pathetic

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these physiques were built on aas alone, no GH! cant believe how so many gym rat people jump on GH and pay full street price blowing all their money away and yet they never tried to go over 1g of test before, atleast only to see if they would gain more...pathetic

yes, things should be done step by step and you don't go to the next step before milking the previous ones.

and from what I understand..if you don't look to compete there is no reason to go further than AAS + low dose of gh. (?)

[tommywishbone]

One day at Gold's Venice, summer 1994, my friend Rob Mathis walks in with Serge. They were friends and trained together for a few months. I asked Serge, "What on the schedule?'"  Serge says. "Today we are going to make arms."  Serge always used the word "make" instead of "train".

That's all I have. 

[First Blood]

One day at Gold's Venice, summer 1994, my friend Rob Mathis walks in with Serge. They were friends and trained together for a few months. I asked Serge, "What on the schedule?'"  Serge says. "Today we are going to make arms."  Serge always used the word "make" instead of "train".

That's all I have.  

I love stories. thank you  

can you tell us about serge's arm making workouts??

[Parker]

Serge said he never weighed over 210lbs @ 6ft tall onstage in his life. He said this on the ironage message boards.
 
He was just freaky taking that into consideration.

He said he was well over that prior to the Pumping Iron, there was a pic that was shown...he had a beard.

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kuclo was competing at 220 as a teenager and he probably was not on gh at the time.

kuklo with otu gh = 176 lb on stage not even a lb over,,very average fella,,VERY,,he is ALL GH same as tropopin ALL GH AND SLIN
220 on aas on stage lolkuklo? you out of your mind,,even arnold never made it 220on stage proportionally to height since arnold had 2 inches on him that is 15 lb so arnold was 215 or so on stage proportionaly to heights and kuklo is in the less genetic gifted comparing to arnold if there is a line of genetic gifted arnold and ron are top 2 and kuklo is somewhere at the mid to buttom of the pack

you fellas are nutslol kuklo 220 on roids onlylol i had a good laugh

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Man, that stuff was some HC. Very expensive. Very rare.

Not saying I've used it, LOL, but I've heard some good ol' stories.

yes some bodybuider still prefer it over new generation gh ,,many would pay lot of price for it

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[gh15]

I read chris dickerson tried it and it cause bone growth on him. maybe explains the pointy elbows? but from what I understand pointy elbows can also be caused by calcium deposists?

pointy elbows caused by high doses of halotestin with esterless testosterone such as suspension,,when mix them too unless on growth hormone ,,your elbows will get dried and look pointier,,prolonged use of gh can contribute but only at higher doses and consistant usage,,not many have the money for that level and the ones who do know how to avoid that look but using the right steroids with it,,

halo at higher doses will get you the pointy elbows

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[gh15]

yes, things should be done step by step and you don't go to the next step before milking the previous ones.

and from what I understand..if you don't look to compete there is no reason to go further than AAS + low dose of gh. (?)

anyone thatr uses gh at higher does compete unless completely retard because you just know you have what it takes on those doses because you look like advanced bodbuilder,,you want to compete and show what you got otherwise why be 250 at single digit? you can be very large at220- 230 single digit  if its for the girls and they usually dont like it ,,they prefer 190 single digit some even 180

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[gh15]

these physiques were built on aas alone, no GH! cant believe how so many gym rat people jump on GH and pay full street price blowing all their money away and yet they never tried to go over 1g of test before, atleast only to see if they would gain more...pathetic

age dependent,,for 20-30 yes you need to use aas first and try to maximize the result because natural gh is high,, over 30 you become old for bodbuild and your gh production go to shit,,it decrease very fast past 30 and you can work from morning to nightwith heavy anything and it wont help ,,yhoull get stronger,,but not larger,,you wont have the canon ball  delts with out gh at this age,, and you better quit than try to look like a bodybuildr with out gh past 33-34,,
even on 3gram testosterona at age 30 plus you wont be able to advance into the large and lean catagory without use of gh,,especially not competetive

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