Would you support profiling if it got the scanners removed?

[Fury]

Let's say the government profiled members of a certain religious demographic (you know, the only one with a hard-on for mass murdering civilians) as well as people who have traveled to countries where the rules of law dictated by said religion are dominant and was able to remove the scanners as a result?

[Soul Crusher]

Yes.  I completely support profiling.   Its common sense.   

[Emmortal]

I've said it multiple times, the US needs to follow the Mossad handbook of asking a set of basic security questions and running background checks of everyone.  There's a reason why profiling is used, it works.

[MB]

Let's say the government profiled members of a certain religious demographic (you know, the only one with a hard-on for mass murdering civilians) as well as people who have traveled to countries where the rules of law dictated by said religion are dominant and was able to remove the scanners as a result?

We should have been profiling since 9/11.  If the TSA isn't already discreetly profiling, then they aren't even trying. 

[240 is Back]

Yes.  I completely support profiling.   Its common sense.   

That's dangerous dude.

You support i when it's brown dudes in airports.

Wait til some religious nutjob with white skin and a bald head blows up a building - and suddenly the profiling you thought was so awesome is being used AGAINST YOU.

[Soul Crusher]

That's dangerous dude.

You support i when it's brown dudes in airports.

Wait til some religious nutjob with white skin and a bald head blows up a building - and suddenly the profiling you thought was so awesome is being used AGAINST YOU.

Again, if shaved head italo americans are causing crimes on a national scale, I have no problem receiving more scrutiny. 


Profiling   equals reality and common sense. 

[Grape Ape]

Profiling   equals reality and common sense. 

Yup.  It's pretty much how police catch people.  The media's just turned it into "racial" profiling which gets everyone's nuts in a knot.  Duh, of course it's racial - that's part of profiling.

[240 is Back]

Again, if shaved head italo americans are causing crimes on a national scale, I have no problem receiving more scrutiny. 

Okay.  Let's apply this logic.

Let's look at the # of deaths and/or attempted or successful attacks by muslims - we have less than a dozen in the last 10 years on US soil, correct?

Now let's look at the number of white guys who have shot it out with police because "obama is taking their guns" or "God told them to"...

If the white guy toll gets up there... then let's start a policy of stopping them in traffic randomly.  After all, they may be on their way to another Oklahoma City, right? 


See, I'm all for executing bomb carriers on the spot.  I'm all for blowing them up with the cool checkpoint detaonation machine.  I'm all for them walking the plank.

But I am NOT supporting giving the govt- and therefore trusting Obama not to abuse it- the ability to profile certain groups that HE deems to be a danger.



Remember that Homeland security report saying bald white dudes were a threat to america?  Do you support giving napaleano the power to profile, 333386?  Sorry bro - but the minute you give them an inch, they'll take a mile.

[Soul Crusher]

  

The lengths you go to support obama ad this admn is shocking. 

   

[The Showstoppa]

I've said it multiple times, the US needs to follow the Mossad handbook of asking a set of basic security questions and running background checks of everyone.  There's a reason why profiling is used, it works.

This 100%.

[Grape Ape]

Now let's look at the number of white guys who have shot it out with police because "obama is taking their guns" or "God told them to"...

This is one of the fucking dumbest things you've ever posted.   But, to give you a chance to back it up, how many people were killed because of this?  Provide a link, then compare it to 9/11.

Israel's got it right.

[Fury]

Israel has profiled for years now and they haven't had a successful hijacking or terrorist attack on their planes in decades. Meanwhile, we dump countless billions into our failed system and spend more time frisking the 85-year-old woman with a walker than we do people who might actually be carrying bombs. Bigoted, intolerant, not-PC or whatever, can't deny that Israel's system works.

And now with that traitor Napolitano entertaining the idea that Muslims should be allowed to opt out of the scan/pat down for "religious reasons"........

[kcballer]

No.  I don't believe in profiling Americans at all.  However, if you know someone white, brown, green, whatever, has just come from Pakistan they should be scrutinized and in that respect i think profiling should be done against those who have visited known terrorist harboring countries regardless of race, creed, etc.  That includes Israel.  

[MB]

Israel has profiled for years now and they haven't had a successful hijacking or terrorist attack on their planes in decades. Meanwhile, we dump countless billions into our failed system and spend more time frisking the 85-year-old woman with a walker than we do people who might actually be carrying bombs. Bigoted, intolerant, not-PC or whatever, can't deny that Israel's system works.

And now with that traitor Napolitano entertaining the idea that Muslims should be allowed to opt out of the scan/pat down for "religious reasons"........

If Muslims are allowed to opt out, then there's no need for security.  Let's just all get onboard packing handguns to defend ourselves. 

[Soul Crusher]

Look at the underwear asshole.  

Paid cash for a one way ticket, was talking to some strange dude before the flight, was on the list, etc etc.  From the middle east, etc etc.

Why the FUC K would we not profile that guy?  

[Fury]

No.  I don't believe in profiling Americans at all.  However, if you know someone white, brown, green, whatever, has just come from Pakistan they should be scrutinized and in that respect i think profiling should be done against those who have visited known terrorist harboring countries regardless of race, creed, etc.  That includes Israel.  

Someone doesn't understand that homegrown terrorists are fast becoming the biggest problem regarding "extremist" Muslims.

[Emmortal]

And now with that traitor Napolitano entertaining the idea that Muslims should be allowed to opt out of the scan/pat down for "religious reasons"........

Please provide a link to this.

[kcballer]

Someone doesn't understand that homegrown terrorists are fast becoming the biggest problem regarding "extremist" Muslims.

And when those terrorists start shaving, dressing in western clothes and looking like any brown American what then?  What if they are white?  What if their name is Sam Brown from Madison, Wisconsin and yet he's a terrorist set on blowing up a plane?  We just wave him on through and stop the brown people?  

[Fury]

Please provide a link to this.

I already posted a thread about it. Feel free to use the search command.

And when those terrorists start shaving, dressing in western clothes and looking like any brown American what then?  What if they are white?  What if their name is Sam Brown from Madison, Wisconsin and yet he's a terrorist set on blowing up a plane?  We just wave him on through and stop the brown people?  

Regardless of skin color, name or manner of dress, they'll all still be tied together by their devotion to a certain religious ideology. Was that the point you were trying to make?

[Soul Crusher]

And when those terrorists start shaving, dressing in western clothes and looking like any brown American what then?  What if they are white?  What if their name is Sam Brown from Madison, Wisconsin and yet he's a terrorist set on blowing up a plane?  We just wave him on through and stop the brown people?  

Yeah, because in 10 years sine 9/11 they never tought of that.      

[240 is Back]

This is one of the fucking dumbest things you've ever posted.   But, to give you a chance to back it up, how many people were killed because of this?  Provide a link, then compare it to 9/11.

I see.

You are saying 911 was carried out 100% by brown people.

You're ignoring the white guys who bought a shitload of stock on those 2 airlines to fail.  You're ignoring the white guys who wanted no part of explaining pools of molten steel beyond temps attainable by jet fire, 6 weeks after WTC1,2,7 fell.  you're ignoring the white guys who let 911 happen.

But anyway, I am all for shoving a thumb up the ass of anyone who wants on a flight.  Id you don't like it, take a damn bus and STFU.  but I am NOT in support of telling Obama he has the right to label any group a danger and use profiling as he sees fit.  I don't trust the govt to do the right thing on that one.

[Fury]

I see.

You are saying 911 was carried out 100% by brown people.

You're ignoring the white guys who bought a shitload of stock on those 2 airlines to fail.  You're ignoring the white guys who wanted to part of explaining pools of molten steel beyond temps attainable by jet fire, 6 weeks after WTC1,2,7 fell.  you're ignoring the white guys who let 911 happen.

But anyway, I am all for shoving a thumb up the ass of anyone who wants on a flight.  Id you don't like it, take a damn bus and STFU.  but I am NOT in support of telling Obama he has the right to label any group a danger and use profiling as he sees fit.  I don't trust the govt to do the right thing on that one.

Don't bring your CT shit into this thread. This is the politics board, not the CT board.

And really, that's how you support your argument? Embarrassing.

[kcballer]

Yeah, because in 10 years sine 9/11 they never tought of that.      

You really are clueless, they haven't had to yet because we don't profile.  If we profile watch how quickly they change their looks to fit in and get their agenda through.  All you end up doing is needlessly persecuting a section of society to fulfill some fantasy notion that all Muslims must be terrorists unless proven otherwise.    That's the road to freedom right there  

[Fury]

You really are clueless, they haven't had to yet because we don't profile.  If we profile watch how quickly they change their looks to fit in and get their agenda through.  All you end up doing is needlessly persecuting a section of society to fulfill some fantasy notion that all Muslims must be terrorists unless proven otherwise.    That's the road to freedom right there  

You know, Muslims could clear that entire label up by actually doing something to combat the extremism that has hijacked their religion. But they, and douche bags like you, would rather point fingers and blame everyone else for the labels they've earned.

[kcballer]

I already posted a thread about it. Feel free to use the search co

Regardless of skin color, name or manner of dress, they'll all still be tied together by their devotion to a certain religious ideology. Was that the point you were trying to make?

And you can tell that from a passport at the security counter?  Are you saying we should ask their religion and then separate them like cattle?  Don't forget one of the most famous extremists was named John Lindh.