People need to understand there is huge credence in having a base...this is what allowed Ronnie and Kai to make the gains they did while others can't make gains or if they do they end up with stage one Palumboism...
The order should go like this if one was to become a pro bodybuilder...
1. Natural Base...meaning no juice just creatine, BCAAs and glutamine....this would be high school kids(from my day back in the mid 90s)...this is what I did minus BCAAs and glutemine...I got up to 195 at 10% BF naturally by the time I was 19 and I had 4 years of lifting under my best by then...
2. Steroids...that should be the next step and not mega doses...1st cycle one gram total tops...i.e. 500mg test, 400mg deca 20mg of D-bol this would actually put you at 1040mg total...Continue to train and increase food...ALOT...it's gonna suck but no eat = no grow...but you don't have to eat like Jay, your not on this level yet and for god's sake don't try to go Brewer and blow up and get your BF out of control.
3. Steroids between 1000-2000mg total...this after having about 5 cycles under your belt...
4. GH + steroids...see GH15s bible and advices...he says everything you need to know...
5. Insulin, GH, steroids....
6. SEOs, peptides, Insulin, GH and steroids
In that order and that doesn't mean do one cycle of one then move to the next...
Impatience is why we no longer see good bodybuilders...Insulin shouldn't be added till you're a pro or have been a pro...why? If you can't become a pro with slin, you're going to a shitty pro...
You need GH to become a pro...otherwise you'll look very small and won't have 3D look the others have...if you go in the order I put, by the time you use GH and of course depending on your genetics you will become a beast after months on GH +steroids in 1500-2500mg range and "mutate"...
Also as soon as you introduce slin, you will no longer have the separation, tie-ins and small waist you had before...this is evident in all pros...Ronnie, Kai, Heath, Nasserole etc...but you put on a shitload of muscle...i.e Ronnie competing in the 280s...This is to be successful as a pro today...Slin may not be needed, depending on your physique as a pro...SEOs may not be needed dosages depend on genetics...
