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Re: The Walking Dead - Thoughts and Opinions?
« Reply #250 on: December 04, 2013, 03:07:32 AM »
Its TV but...

Govs people just walking towards rapid enemy fire. Come on. Almost nobody got hit.

It takes 10times the people to conqurer enemy held fortress. 5mins and only that tank would have been a problem.

Fuck. I hate this shit.

Next time you lead the charge

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Re: The Walking Dead - Thoughts and Opinions?
« Reply #251 on: December 04, 2013, 03:45:31 AM »
What was the last time this series had a big shootout? End of s2 or s3? Then, I understood, that maggie and asian dude weren't really trying to hit.
You disagree? Steadied shots, with automatic weapons, to an enemy you really wan't to kill
And you barely hit anybody.
While at mandatory army my first 3 shots, lying down form 150meters we're 9,9 and 8.
I am sure that they had more practise and all...


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Re: The Walking Dead - Thoughts and Opinions?
« Reply #252 on: December 04, 2013, 09:23:22 PM »
Next time you lead the charge

Just stand in front of the tank instead of behind it. 

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Re: The Walking Dead - Thoughts and Opinions?
« Reply #253 on: December 04, 2013, 09:25:16 PM »
What was unrealistic with Rick was him walking around yelling for Carl in the wide open.  

Lori did it at the farm, and none of the zombies noticed her.  Maybe it has something to do with the pitch of the voice.

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Re: The Walking Dead - Thoughts and Opinions?
« Reply #254 on: December 04, 2013, 09:55:44 PM »

 Dave Navarro calling out the director on his bullsh*t. lol


 
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Re: The Walking Dead - Thoughts and Opinions?
« Reply #255 on: December 05, 2013, 10:20:04 AM »
Some info for the second half of the season:

1. “Carol will definitely return before the end of the season.”

2. “The Sanctuary, which was discussed in that radio message, will come into play.”

3. “Via flashbacks, there will be glimpses into the lives of our favorite characters, likely including Michonne” to potentially explore her past as a mother.

We have reported on these topics in the past. Carol was seen filming with Ty, the sisters, the other children and the twins who play Judith.

We reported about the sanctuary sign and how most filming locations were on or around train tracks. Possibly following the tracks to the sanctuary.

It was reported that Danai aka Michonne was seen filming in Senoia with children. This was reported as possibly being a flashback with her and her daughters.

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« Reply #256 on: December 05, 2013, 10:24:44 AM »
I suspected Carol and Tyrese would end up together-until Tyrese finds out what Carol did or perhaps what those two crazy kids did....
Something will go wrong with the sanctuary, they've been bedded down to long in the prison.  I doubt they will spend much time at the sanctuary after the prison.   Good find, 240.
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Re: The Walking Dead - Thoughts and Opinions?
« Reply #257 on: December 05, 2013, 09:44:28 PM »
Carrying the baby.  




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Re: The Walking Dead - Thoughts and Opinions?
« Reply #258 on: December 08, 2013, 02:26:52 PM »
I am very glad I finally found a site I can watch it over here just after the episode has been broadcasted in the US.
I wonder who will die the 2nd half of the season...Tyreese I think, maybe Beth. If they take out Daryl there are bo tough ones left, exept for Michone. I think she'll die maybe.

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« Reply #259 on: December 08, 2013, 08:06:13 PM »
daryl would be a big loss to them as a group and to the fan base...I definitely think he will go before a lot of others if for nothing else the shock factor but not quite yet

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« Reply #260 on: December 08, 2013, 08:54:01 PM »
I am very glad I finally found a site I can watch it over here just after the episode has been broadcasted in the US.
I wonder who will die the 2nd half of the season...Tyreese I think, maybe Beth. If they take out Daryl there are bo tough ones left, exept for Michone. I think she'll die maybe.

Lets see if they develop an Arch for a couple of seasons with Carol and her kids.  



What I'm guessing is, the kids get bit before the end of the season, and Glenn keeps on living.  ::)


TV's greatest love story - Glenn and Maggie  ::)

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« Reply #261 on: December 08, 2013, 09:00:49 PM »
daryl would be a big loss to them as a group and to the fan base...I definitely think he will go before a lot of others if for nothing else the shock factor but not quite yet

Daryl and Rick arnt dying until ratings drop low enough that they plan to end it.

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« Reply #262 on: December 08, 2013, 09:06:27 PM »
Daryl and Rick arnt dying until ratings drop low enough that they plan to end it.

yep.   Merle only got killed off because he had a lot of other work in the pipes, they say.

If/When Daryl starts filming movies, fans should be nervous.  Or if they show his past lol, that's always the death knell for a character, as soon as they develop him/her lol.

Rick, they'll never kill off.  They'd have to have some serious contract rift, or some other character just becomes more popular or something.  It's a show about Rick. 

Although - The writers did say they are making it about a normal man - In a hollywood movie, he would have kicked the gov's ass in that fight.  In real life, the broken/beaten man might lose to the psycopath in a fight.

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Re: The Walking Dead - Thoughts and Opinions?
« Reply #263 on: December 08, 2013, 09:28:24 PM »
Read the Comics and don't ask these stupid questions!

I don't think "so and so" dies... LOL!

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Re: The Walking Dead - Thoughts and Opinions?
« Reply #264 on: December 08, 2013, 11:22:32 PM »
Read the Comics and don't ask these stupid questions!

I don't think "so and so" dies... LOL!

Why don't you post who died, assclown?  I have no interest in the comics.

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Re: The Walking Dead - Thoughts and Opinions?
« Reply #265 on: December 08, 2013, 11:28:08 PM »
they say the comics will match one of the next 8 episodes very closely (probably to keep the readers happy)...

but there are some huge differences.  



As Season 4 of The Walking Dead continues to supply ever more ingenious ways of offing walkers – pile up under the rear wheels of a car and gun the accelerator, anyone? – it seems like a good moment to stop and consider whether the TV show takes the same liberties when wasting walkers as when it adapts the source material for the screen. Just how faithful is the TV adaptation to the comics? (SPOILERS up through Season 4, Episode 4 ahead; you’ve been warned.)

1. Killer Carol
In the TV show, Carol has turned into a stone cold pragmatist who thinks nothing of putting bullets into people who have been infected with a virus and threaten to infect the group at large. It’s a huge transformation, both from her Season 1 days suffering emotional and physical abuse from her husband and from the comics, where she is a bit of a looker (not the mousy, short haired and quiet character in the show), a total nut job and much feistier, flirting with and dating Tyreese and suggesting a threesome with Rick and Lori.

2. The Governor’s a Gringo
In the comics, the Governor has a Hispanic look, a face-dominating handlebar moustache and flowing, dark hair. David Morrisey’s TV version of the character is clean-cut in looks if not in morality and actions. He has a baby face, is sharply dressed and has short, cropped hair. The Governor’s pale features also play a part in the colder, more calculated derangement of the character on TV, in contrast to the raging hothead prone to more than his fair share of blow-ups in the comics.

3. The Tragedy of Tyreese
Although Tyreese becoming a main player in the story once the group reaches the prison is consistent with both the TV series and the comics, the results of the suicide pact between his daughter Julie and her boyfriend Chris aren’t. This has a central impact on the character’s development in the comics, but it’s left out of the TV show. Chris shoots too early and only Julie dies in the comics; a devastated Tyreese then chokes Chris to death and ruthlessly dismembers him once he turns. Chad Coleman’s version of the character can be moody and unpredictable but not to the same extremes.

4. Michonne the Misanthrope
In both the comics and the TV show, Michonne is a one-woman, katana-wielding, bringer of walker slaughter. But Michonne is more sensitive in the comics, and she even pursues a relationship with Tyreese. The TV character is extremely detached and completely unavailable, emotionally and physically, to anyone.

5. Tomas
Tomas is the TV show’s replacement for the comic’s Dexter. He is the alpha male amongst the prison’s remaining inmates, and his volatility is a source of concern for Rick. This culminates with Rick stabbing Tomas to death after they have cleared a number of walkers from one of the cell blocks and Tomas has opened a door to let more in. This event has a lasting impact on Rick’s ability to trust others, outsiders especially, as demonstrated by his reluctance to allow Tyreese’s crew into the prison.

6. Lori’s dead? No loss.
Lori’s death in the TV show was greeted with cheers by many fans, as the character’s divisive, contradictory behavior rendered her untenable and just plain annoying in the eyes of many. If you read the comics, though, you’ll have to put up with her torment of the Grimes family even longer, since she doesn’t die until the Governor’s raid on the prison (and not before committing a final act of infanticide: falling on top of and crushing/smothering baby Judith).

7. Andrea’s Absence in Woodbury
Another controversial, female character in the television series is Andrea, whose initial indecision and emotional imbalance annoyed many viewers. Her decisions to relocate to Woodbury, to begin a relationship with the Governor and to leave Rick’s group riled many fans; it was tantamount to unforgiveable betrayal. But her death, or turning, in the TV show is pretty hardcore. This episode just doesn’t happen in the comics. Instead, Andrea becomes a sharp shooter and is central to the defense of the prison.

8. Surly Merle
Dedicated fans of the comics might have been confused by our initial encounter with Merle Dixon (handcuffed and abandoned on the roof of an Atlanta department store by Rick et al.) in the TV show, since he isn’t a character in the comics. Instead, Merle seems to have been developed by writer Robert Kirkman to provide an antagonistic foil to Rick’s group and to test their moral compasses throughout the show. That is, until his whiskey-soaked, walker-trolling, Motörhead-soundtracked exit in a chromed-up Dodge, which is simultaneously awesome and dark as hell: “I ain’t gonna beg. I ain’t begging you.”

9. Psycho Shane
All good rivalries are co-dependent and center around mutual respect layered with animosity; Rick and Shane are no exceptions to this. Although his death goes down the same way in the TV show as in the comics, Shane sticks around much longer in the TV show, and his descent into psychological turmoil and pure villainy is explored in great detail. His death, or mercy killing, in the comics comes before the group even leaves Atlanta.

10. Daryl: The Fan Favorite
Another day, another Dixon brother developed especially for the TV series. Norman Reedus’ Daryl, the younger of the two Dixons, is the epitome of a badass antihero with his trademark crossbow and low-rider motorcycle. The character has become so popular that hardcore fans have made placards and t-shirts bearing the slogan: “If Daryl dies, we riot.”

11. Dale Bails
God love him and his penchant for open Hawaiian shirts, bucket hats, that trusty RV and moral philosophy. Dale dies sooner, and far more suddenly, in the TV show than in the comics. In the former, a few walkers ambush and disembowel him as he takes an ill-advised walk through fields. In the latter, Dale’s demise is a more prolonged affair, involving two bites and an amputation to stymie the first.

12. Hershel’s Farm: Where Time Stands Still
Season 2 of the TV show is regarded by many critics and fans as the weakest season, since it was entirely set at Hershel Greene’s farm. This was a financially creative decision that needed to be made, but it didn’t serve the plot well and crippled any momentum the season could have developed.

13. Go Glenn
Glenn’s selfless bravery and intelligence are vital in helping Rick and his group secure the prison at the start of Season 3. In the comics, however, Glenn stays behind on Hershel’s farm to help with mundane tasks, like burning walker corpses. His skills with cars (highlighted in Season 1 when he jacks a sports car) appear later in the comics after he enters the prison and displays a knack for siphoning gas.

14. Mild-Mannered Morgan
The Morgan we meet in the comics is a level-headed, insightful tour guide for Rick, but Morgan becomes a paranoid fruit loop with a propensity for setting booby traps in the TV show. Morgan is so far gone, with the death of his wife and son contributing to his madness, that even the combined negotiating powers of Rick, Michonne and Carl can’t talk him into joining them at the prison. A lost cause if ever there was.

15. We need to talk about walkers…
At no point in the TV show do the characters refer to “zombies;” it’s almost exclusively “walkers” (or “biters,” if you’re the Governor). In the comics, the “z” word does come up.

16. CDC (Creative Difference in the Comics)
Season 1 of the TV show culminates in the survivors’ arrival at the Center for Disease Control in Atlanta and their encounter with its sole surviving employee, Dr. Jenner. This provides the backdrop for an explosive finale and Rick’s revelation that everyone is infected, therefore, the living are “the walking dead” just as much as the walkers. This place doesn’t feature in the comics, and the survivors remain ignorant about the true nature of the outbreak.

17. Notice Otis
It’s strange to think of Carl bleeding out on Hershel’s farm way back in Season 2, since he’s such a little tough guy now. It was Otis who accidentally shot Carl, necessitating the supply run into town in which Shane sacrifices Otis to escape a zombie horde. This episode isn’t in the comics, and it was probably created for the TV show to emphasize the flaws and moral dubiousness in Shane’s character.

18. Hershel’s Big Secret
When Hershel’s unexpected payload of barn walkers is dropped on the group, it’s a shocking twist. Shane offs most of them himself, but Hershel’s idiocy is much more disastrous in the comics (the walkers escape and wreak devastation on his family in a moment of tragic irony).

19. So Much for Sophia
Ah, Sophia. We all remember you as the elusive killer from Season 2. If only the writers had stayed true to the comics, kept you human and allowed your childish romance with Carl to blossom. We might have seen some actual, adrenaline-fueled, ingenious walker carnage – you know, the gory, dismemberment stuff that viewers actually tune in for? – rather than loads of talk about feelings.

20. Hands Off
Well, Rick still has his shooting hand in the TV show. Almost as soon as Rick and his group arrive at Woodbury in the comics, the Governor callously hacks off Rick’s right paw.

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Re: The Walking Dead - Thoughts and Opinions?
« Reply #266 on: December 09, 2013, 12:47:31 AM »
Does Morgan return in season 4? He hasn't been seen filming anywhere and filming has ended and now:

AMC has canceled Low Winter Sun after its first season, which aired 10 episodes from August to October. It was based on a 2006 British miniseries and starred Brits Mark Strong and Lennie James.

Lennie also plays Morgan on The Walking Dead. He was the first person to help Rick Grimes (Andrew Lincoln) back on Season 1 when Rick emerged from the hospital and the poop had hit the zombie apocalypse fan. Morgan returned in Season 3, Episode 12, "Clear," which is widely considered one of the best eps of the series.

Over the summer, Walking Dead showrunner Scott Gimple said Morgan would return in Season 4. Half of the season has aired now, and Rick’s group is now scattered away from the prison. It's possible Rick and Carl Grimes (Chandler Riggs) head back to Rick's old town, where they met up with Morgan last season. Maybe Morgan joins the group on a more permanent basis, if he isn't still a little mentally ... fragile ... after the death of his son. Duane.

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« Reply #267 on: December 09, 2013, 04:58:13 AM »
19. So Much for Sophia
Ah, Sophia. We all remember you as the elusive killer from Season 2. If only the writers had stayed true to the comics, kept you human and allowed your childish romance with Carl to blossom. We might have seen some actual, adrenaline-fueled, ingenious walker carnage – you know, the gory, dismemberment stuff that viewers actually tune in for? – rather than loads of talk about feelings.

if they match up carl and lizzie and let them grow up together and cause hell, i can become a fan of carl, but only if lizzie stays around.  eveyone else can fucking die.  :)


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« Reply #268 on: December 10, 2013, 12:51:10 AM »


 I'm surprised nobody didn't bring up the absurdity of how they try to "scientifically" explain how the zombies work in this show.

"Oh the brain stem and stuff."

Fuck that, you wouldn't even be able to move if your heart isn't beating and circulating oxygen to your muscles, which by the way, would require your lungs to be working.

But no, they are just fine as long as their brain stem is functioning, even though they die when you shoot any other part of their brain.

Not to mention motor function is controlled by the Cerebrum, not the brain stem. AND EVEN THE BRAIN STEM NEEDS OXYGEN TO FUNCTION, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE A BEATING HEART AND FUNCTIONING LUNGS.

But putting that aside, all the brain stem does is control involuntary movement, sneezing, coughing, hunger, vomiting and other such minor necessary functions. If you were just a brain stem you would not be able to do anything, without the rest of your brain you wouldn't even be able to put 2 and 2 together that meat or humans are food. You would just be hungry and sit there being a fucking brain stem.

Apparently they don't have Google over there, or common sense. 
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« Reply #269 on: December 10, 2013, 01:21:11 AM »

 I'm surprised nobody didn't bring up the absurdity of how they try to "scientifically" explain how the zombies work in this show.

"Oh the brain stem and stuff."

Fuck that, you wouldn't even be able to move if your heart isn't beating and circulating oxygen to your muscles, which by the way, would require your lungs to be working.

But no, they are just fine as long as their brain stem is functioning, even though they die when you shoot any other part of their brain.

Not to mention motor function is controlled by the Cerebrum, not the brain stem. AND EVEN THE BRAIN STEM NEEDS OXYGEN TO FUNCTION, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE A BEATING HEART AND FUNCTIONING LUNGS.

But putting that aside, all the brain stem does is control involuntary movement, sneezing, coughing, hunger, vomiting and other such minor necessary functions. If you were just a brain stem you would not be able to do anything, without the rest of your brain you wouldn't even be able to put 2 and 2 together that meat or humans are food. You would just be hungry and sit there being a fucking brain stem.

Apparently they don't have Google over there, or common sense. 

It's fiction brah, not a documentary

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« Reply #270 on: December 10, 2013, 02:13:21 AM »
It's fiction brah, not a documentary


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« Reply #271 on: December 10, 2013, 02:05:25 PM »

 I'm surprised nobody didn't bring up the absurdity of how they try to "scientifically" explain how the zombies work in this show.

"Oh the brain stem and stuff."

Dr Dutch agrees. With just the brainstem left, they should be vegetables at best....

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« Reply #272 on: December 10, 2013, 03:02:03 PM »
I was getting all mad at the gun battle flaws (Oh, rotting zombies and filing cabinets can now stop RIFLE ROUNDS!)

Then I realized I was able to accept the premise of zombie apocalypse but not bullet velocity fails.

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« Reply #273 on: December 10, 2013, 07:20:25 PM »
Dr Dutch agrees. With just the brainstem left, they should be vegetables at best....


 I'm surprised nobody didn't bring up the absurdity of how they try to "scientifically" explain how the zombies work in this show.

"Oh the brain stem and stuff."

Fuck that, you wouldn't even be able to move if your heart isn't beating and circulating oxygen to your muscles, which by the way, would require your lungs to be working.

But no, they are just fine as long as their brain stem is functioning, even though they die when you shoot any other part of their brain.

Not to mention motor function is controlled by the Cerebrum, not the brain stem. AND EVEN THE BRAIN STEM NEEDS OXYGEN TO FUNCTION, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE A BEATING HEART AND FUNCTIONING LUNGS.

But putting that aside, all the brain stem does is control involuntary movement, sneezing, coughing, hunger, vomiting and other such minor necessary functions. If you were just a brain stem you would not be able to do anything, without the rest of your brain you wouldn't even be able to put 2 and 2 together that meat or humans are food. You would just be hungry and sit there being a fucking brain stem.

Apparently they don't have Google over there, or common sense. 

What's wrong with you bitches!  Walking Dead ain't Neuroscience.

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« Reply #274 on: December 11, 2013, 02:50:09 PM »
What's wrong with you bitches!  Walking Dead ain't Neuroscience.

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