Wiki Leaks Blows the Lid off Again

[Emmortal]

I think you mean "retract"? 

It was a Palin joke, sorry =)

[Emmortal]

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,731583,00.html

Some good info from a non US source.

[Fury]

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,731583,00.html

Some good info from a non US source.

Good piece of propaganda, that's for sure.

Apparently thinking Kenya's government is corrupt and that Turkey is on a path towards Islamism is arrogant now?

Then again, they have to sell papers so they'll no doubt blow it out of proportion and people like you will suck it right up.

[Emmortal]

Good piece of propaganda, that's for sure.

Apparently thinking Kenya's government is corrupt and that Turkey is on a path towards Islamism is arrogant now?

Then again, they have to sell papers so they'll no doubt blow it out of proportion and people like you will suck it right up.

Like you sucking up propaganda about Al Qaeda and the world wide terrorist network out to kill America at all costs?  Unlike you I gather information from all points of view to make a logical assessment instead cherry picking from one news source to further my own agenda.

[Fury]

Like you sucking up propaganda about Al Qaeda and the world wide terrorist network out to kill America at all costs?  Unlike you I gather information from all points of view to make a logical assessment instead cherry picking from one news source to further my own agenda.

Hahaha, of course you do. However, the only thing you've done in this thread is show that you're completely clueless to many things regarding the religious group you worship and the part of the world where it's dominant.

Hint: I, along with others, have been posting about Turkey's shying away from secularism and its fall to Islamism for a long time now. Maybe you should do some actual reading, "information gatherer".

Now continue to be a good little moron and drink up everything that liberal German rag tells you. I can't stop laughing at their argument that having a realistic view of the world (and not the Utopian fairytale they and people like you share) is "arrogant" now. LOL.

Keep trying to make a mountain of a molehill. 

[Emmortal]

Hahaha, of course you do. However, the only thing you've done in this thread is show that you're completely clueless to many things regarding the religious group you worship and the part of the world where it's dominant.

Hint: I, along with others, have been posting about Turkey's shying away from secularism and its fall to Islamism for a long time now. Maybe you should do some actual reading, "information gatherer".

Now continue to be a good little moron and drink up everything that liberal German rag tells you. I can't stop laughing at their argument that having a realistic view of the world (and not the Utopian fairytale they and people like you share) is "arrogant" now. LOL.

Keep trying to make a mountain of a molehill. 

Once again when faced with the facts you pull baseless statements out of your ass to try and prove a completely failed point.  You have nothing to stand on so you invent so called facts out of thin air, nice try, but you are once again exposed for the fear mongering propagandist you are.

You can't provide any links of me "worshiping" Islam or Muslims so until then, go back to living in fear, that's all you are good at.

[Fury]

Once again when faced with the facts you pull baseless statements out of your ass to try and prove a completely failed point.  You have nothing to stand on so you invent so called facts out of thin air, nice try, but you are once again exposed for the fear mongering propagandist you are.

You can't provide any links of me "worshiping" Islam or Muslims so until then, go back to living in fear, that's all you are good at.

Facts? What facts? Are you referring to the opinionated "Der Spiegel" article that you linked? That article does not constitute "facts". It's one person's analysis of these leaks, and a biased one at that.

Let me help you out, though:

fact   
[fakt]  Show IPA
–noun
1.
something that actually exists; reality; truth: Your fears have no basis in fact.
2.
something known to exist or to have happened: Space travel is now a fact.
3.
a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true: Scientists gather facts about plant growth.
4.
something said to be true or supposed to have happened: The facts given by the witness are highly questionable.
5.
Law . Often, facts. an actual or alleged event or circumstance, as distinguished from its legal effect or consequence. Compare question of fact, question of law.


I suggest you learn the definition of simple words like that before you start throwing them around to prop up your arguments.

Regardless, I'm sorry that you're so naive and clueless.  

[Skip8282]

you pull baseless statements out of your ass to try and prove a completely failed point. 

I think we established earlier in this thread that you do that. 

Do you think AQ is localized?  Regional?  World-wide?

[Emmortal]

Facts? What facts? Are you referring to the opinionated "Der Spiegel" article that you linked? That article does not constitute "facts". It's one person's analysis of these leaks, and a biased one at that.

Let me help you out, though:

fact   
[fakt]  Show IPA
–noun
1.
something that actually exists; reality; truth: Your fears have no basis in fact.
2.
something known to exist or to have happened: Space travel is now a fact.
3.
a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true: Scientists gather facts about plant growth.
4.
something said to be true or supposed to have happened: The facts given by the witness are highly questionable.
5.
Law . Often, facts. an actual or alleged event or circumstance, as distinguished from its legal effect or consequence. Compare question of fact, question of law.


I suggest you learn the definition of simple words like that before you start throwing them around to prop up your arguments.

Regardless, I'm sorry that you're so naive and clueless.  

Once again you utterly fail and miss the point.  I wasn't referring to the article when I made the statement about being faced with the facts.  The article was posted for the simple reason that it had other information in it regarding the leaks that other sites had yet to be reported on.  Any opinion, speculation or conjecture should be left up to the reader to wade through.

You really can't be this dense can you?

[Fury]

Once again you utterly fail and miss the point.  I wasn't referring to the article when I made the statement about being faced with the facts.  The article was posted for the simple reason that it had other information in it regarding the leaks that other sites had yet to be reported on.  Any opinion, speculation or conjecture should be left up to the reader to wade through.

You really can't be this dense can you?

Silly me for thinking that you were actually talking about this thread and not one of your other asinine posts full of "facts" (and I say that term lightly given the shit you post) that has nothing to do with this topic.  

Funny how bent out of shape you've gotten once it was pointed out that you're completely clueless on topics you like to feign knowledge of.

[Emmortal]

Silly me for thinking that you were actually talking about this thread and not one of your other asinine posts full of "facts" (and I say that term lightly given the shit you post) that has nothing to do with this topic.  

Funny how bent out of shape you've gotten once it was pointed out that you're completely clueless on topics you like to feign knowledge of.

You have no room to talk when it comes to posting so called facts.  You've shown in this thread that you can't form a logical retort without pulling completely false information out of your ass.  Now run along and let the adults finish their discussion.

Skip, regarding AQ, as a so called "word wide network of terror" it doesn't exist.  I already started a thread about this topic if you want to read it, feel free.

[Fury]

You have no room to talk when it comes to posting so called facts.  You've shown in this thread that you can't form a logical retort without pulling completely false information out of your ass.  Now run along and let the adults finish their discussion.

Skip, regarding AQ, as a so called "word wide network of terror" it doesn't exist.  I already started a thread about this topic if you want to read it, feel free.

Hahahaha, false information? Do tell.

You've been exposed as a naive and clueless individual regarding Middle Eastern affairs and are now throwing a temper tantrum.

[240 is Back]

LOL!

We carpet bomb weddings in ally nations because we have "intel" that there might be bad guys there.

But we can't get one guy spilling state secrets - when we know where he is - because of why, exactly?

[Emmortal]

Hahahaha, false information? Do tell.

Oh since you asked, I'd be happy to:

Hahaha, of course you do. However, the only thing you've done in this thread is show that you're completely clueless to many things regarding the religious group you worship and the part of the world where it's dominant.

Fact: I've never posted anything that would even come close to worshiping let alone supporting Islam or Muslim extremists.  I've posted numerous times I don't agree with their religion, with the way they treat women, their views on people who don't agree with their beliefs etc.  This is a completely baseless and grossly false statement.  Typical of someone who has no argument to stand on.

[Emmortal]

Hahahaha, false information? Do tell.

You've been exposed as a naive and clueless individual regarding Middle Eastern affairs and are now throwing a temper tantrum.

If you define temper tantrum as responding in a logical and concise manner, then so be it.  You can't even respond without throwing out completely false information and personal insults.

This applies perfectly to you: Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

If you want to have a logical discussion, lets have one, otherwise keep your ignorance out of the thread.

[Soul Crusher]

Hillary = bad ass mofo.  I have a new found respect for her. 

________________________ ________________________ ____________--

From FR:

To: advance_copy
I think this is Obama taking down Hillary.

“Top secret cables revealed that Mrs Clinton, the Secretary of State, even ordered diplomats to obtain DNA data – including iris scans and fingerprints - as well as credit card and frequent flier numbers.

All permanent members of the security council – including Russia, China, France and the UK – were targeted by the secret spying mission, as well as the Secretary General of the UN, Ban Ki-Moon.

Work schedules, email addresses, fax numbers, website identifiers and mobile numbers were also demanded by Washington.

The US also wanted ‘biographic and biometric information on UN Security Council permanent representatives’.

The request could break international law and threatens to derail any trust between the US and other powerful nations.

Requests for IT related information – such as details of passwords, personal encryption keys and network upgrades - could also raise suspicions that the US was preparing to mount a hacking operation.

It is set to lead to international calls for Mrs Clinton to resign.”

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1333879/WikiLeaks-Diplomatic-crisis-Americas-secret-cables-published-online—Prince-Andrew-singled-criticism.html#ixzz16d1F9Mk8

[Fury]

Oh since you asked, I'd be happy to:
Fact: I've never posted anything that would even come close to worshiping let alone supporting Islam or Muslim extremists.  I've posted numerous times I don't agree with their religion, with the way they treat women, their views on people who don't agree with their beliefs etc.  This is a completely baseless and grossly false statement.  Typical of someone who has no argument to stand on.

What's false about it? In this thread you've shown yourself to be utterly clueless on Middle Eastern affairs. I suggest you crawl back into your hole and pop back up when you think you've got an argument, a la kcballer tactics.

Hillary = bad ass mofo.  I have a new found respect for her.  

________________________ ________________________ ____________--

From FR:

To: advance_copy
I think this is Obama taking down Hillary.

“Top secret cables revealed that Mrs Clinton, the Secretary of State, even ordered diplomats to obtain DNA data – including iris scans and fingerprints - as well as credit card and frequent flier numbers.

All permanent members of the security council – including Russia, China, France and the UK – were targeted by the secret spying mission, as well as the Secretary General of the UN, Ban Ki-Moon.

Work schedules, email addresses, fax numbers, website identifiers and mobile numbers were also demanded by Washington.

The US also wanted ‘biographic and biometric information on UN Security Council permanent representatives’.

The request could break international law and threatens to derail any trust between the US and other powerful nations.

Requests for IT related information – such as details of passwords, personal encryption keys and network upgrades - could also raise suspicions that the US was preparing to mount a hacking operation.

It is set to lead to international calls for Mrs Clinton to resign.”

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1333879/WikiLeaks-Diplomatic-crisis-Americas-secret-cables-published-online—Prince-Andrew-singled-criticism.html#ixzz16d1F9Mk8

Awesome. I'd have more respect for her if she led the charge to have the US leave the UN.

[Soul Crusher]

I have to say - after reading this I feel alot better that she at least will be a stop gap saving us from obamas penchant for giving away the store. 

[Emmortal]

What's false about it? In this thread you've shown yourself to be utterly clueless on Middle Eastern affairs. I suggest you crawl back into your hole and pop back up when you think you've got an argument, a la kcballer tactics.

Like I said earlier, when faced with the facts you have nothing to stand on.  When you have something worthy of discussion, let me know, it's way too easy completely dismantling you. 

[George Whorewell]

You don't consider Arab nations in support of bombing Iran big news?

Im sure someone else got to this below, but Im posting as I read. It has been widely reported in several major media outlets for months (including the post and daily news which I read every day) that this is the case-- a nuclear Iran is a lose-lose for the whole region.

[MM2K]

The wikileaks guy is toast, he just fucked with the Russians/Putin.

THey should rename him DEAD MAN WALKING.

[theonlyone]

 no Guys, no

 In Russian news I read this - someone American blah blah blah diplomats called Dmitri Medvedev pale and indecisive and Vladimir Putin - alpha male. I don't think Putin would kill for that lol. Dmitriy Medvedev may lol

[Hedgehog]

Hillary may be a lot things, but I know she is not a traitor. 

Shit - she used to be a major goldwater girl in her youth. 

Golden girl?

Thank you for bein' a friend...


Estelle Getty - best actress ever?

[Mons Venus]

Someone is going to take that guy out.  

truth sux.  

9-11 info should be leaked next.  

go wiki !!! 

[The Showstoppa]

Funny that some of you who purport to be "in the know" are surprised that many ME nations want Iran to just go away....and being surprised that the US would "spy" on it's allies, host nations, etc....      But so many of you are so informed because you read something on a website....

And Putin is going to put this dog down.....as well as many of his informants and underlings.....book it.