Wiki Leaks Blows the Lid off Again

[Emmortal]

Of course the two are comparable.  The government has a vested interest in keeping certain information confidential, just as you do.  If information is released that could hurt you, you don't want it out there.  If information is released that may hurt the government, the government doesn't want it out there.

The real issue is the government failing to release information, not because it would harmful, but because it would be embarrasing, show corruption, etc.  That's what need to be addressed.

I don't even know where to begin with most of this drivel but I'll attempt to reply to it.

No, again, they aren't comparable.  The rights of an individual aren't comparable to the government wishing to withhold information just because they "want" to.  You keep making the ridiculous comparison between individual rights and freedoms which are clearly defined in the constitution to information being held by the government.  There's absolutely no comparison and doing so just shows you're grasping at straws.

Second, your statement was addressed at an individual.  Your statement is that a PERSON must be either pro freedom of information or against.  And that's about as ridiculous as your understanding of the issue.

You seriously can't be that dense.  I don't need to point out the fact that the comment in context was in regard to this subject, or do I?  The discussion was about the release of this information by Wikileaks, I shouldn't have to really point that out but I will because you obviously can't decipher clear context.

This is just dumb as hell.  People argue all the time about what the relationship of government should be, and whether or not the so-called "Father of Liberalism" is right or wrong.  And hell, just look at TA's posts on Jefferson.  The only thing pretty clear about the relationship is that everybody has their own opinion.

So my opinion of it is just dumb as hell because you disagree?  Excellent logic, I'll keep that in mind for any future posts you make in regards to subjects you obviously have no clue about.

How can this be?  You are either for freedom of information, or you're against it - well, according to you anyway.

You honestly can't be this dumb.  So the government should release people's tax records for everybody to see?  How about we tell the criminals all of our investigative techniques?  Maybe we should release people's work schedules so that the next McVeigh can time his bomb a little better?

The only dumb thing in this post is why I'm even bothering to reply to such idiocy.  You're suggesting violating clearly defined rights and freedoms as some sort of valid retort?  Hahaha, jesus dude, you really should think more before posting this shit.  I didn't think people could make up shit like this, but clearly people like you actually do exist.  The world never ceases to amaze me.

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I don't even know where to begin with most of this drivel but I'll attempt to reply to it.

No, again, they aren't comparable.  The rights of an individual aren't comparable to the government wishing to withhold information just because they "want" to.  You keep making the ridiculous comparison between individual rights and freedoms which are clearly defined in the constitution to information being held by the government.  There's absolutely no comparison and doing so just shows you're grasping at straws.

Nobody said they should withhold information because they "want to".  In fact, I said just the opposite, you're just not bright enough to figure that out.

You seriously can't be that dense.  I don't need to point out the fact that the comment in context was in regard to this subject, or do I?  The discussion was about the release of this information by Wikileaks, I shouldn't have to really point that out but I will because you obviously can't decipher clear context.

No, you were speaking in terms of absolutes.  And absolutes are dumb - regardless of the context.

So my opinion of it is just dumb as hell because you disagree?  Excellent logic, I'll keep that in mind for any future posts you make in regards to subjects you obviously have no clue about.

No, it's dumb because you're arguing a clarity that does not exist.  Way to counter the argument - oh, that's right - you didn't. 

The only dumb thing in this post is why I'm even bothering to reply to such idiocy.

Yes, we've established you're dumb.  No need to reiterate what I've already stated.

You're suggesting violating clearly defined rights and freedoms as some sort of valid retort?  Hahaha, jesus dude, you really should think more before posting this shit.  I didn't think people could make up shit like this, but clearly people like you actually do exist.  The world never ceases to amaze me.

Good argument - oh nope, you still don't have one. 

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Wikileaks: Iranian president slapped by top Revolutionary Guard
Times Live ^ | 12/30/10


Wikileaks: Iranian president slapped by top Revolutionary Guard

Dec 30, 2010 3:27 PM | By Sapa-dpa

The chief of the Revolutionary Guard angrily slapped Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in early 2010, as Tehran was still dealing with the fallout from last year's election, according to a leaked US diplomatic cable.

The cable, written in February, said Revolutionary Guard Chief of Staff Mohammed Ali Jafari blamed Ahmadinejad for the post-election "mess" in 2009, which saw the country roundly criticized by the West amid allegations of fraud and tough crackdowns on large-scale protests in Tehran.

The guard was founded after the Islamic revolution in 1979 to prevent dissident activity and is a strong internal force within the country, with economic and military wings.

Jafari is seen as close to the most conservative Iranian elements, but Ahmedinejad himself is also deemed a stalwart hawk.

The cable, titled "He who got slapped," quotes an Iran watcher in Baku, Azerbaijan, who related that Ahmedinejad felt that in the aftermath of the post-election street protests, which turned violent, "people feel suffocated."


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