Man goes on 60 day all potato diet...

[Fallsview]

Yakima is the home of Bob Gimlin and the late Roger Patterson.  Enough said!

[HTexan]

 
We need the CEO of Mars, inc. to do this with M&Ms.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

We need the CEO of Mars, inc. to do this with M&Ms.

Those bastards test on animals. Like really weird testing where they blind bunnies and shit  

[Cy Tolliver]

My dad grows them out the back garden and eats them

typical... 

[HTexan]

Those bastards test on animals. Like really weird testing where they blind bunnies and shit  

Those bastards.

[Fallsview]

Guy must look like a pear.  You know how much estrogen is in potatoes?

[George Whorewell]

A calorie is a calorie but a Macronutrient is not a Macronutrient you stupid schmuck.  Did you see how I summed up your pointless pontification in just one sentence?  How many times will I have to re-write it?

Yes moron, you summed it up perfectly while completely missing the point. Calories come from macronutrients-- they don't fall from the sky. Your body uses the calories which are derived from macronutrients as fuel. Hence, a calorie is not a calorie fuckwad. 100 calories from jelly beans is not the same as 100 calories from sweet potatos. The human body does not metabolize foods with zero nutritional value the same way as foods that are good for you.  So obviously the source of the caloric content is extremely important and not all calories are created equally. If I consumed 2000 calories a day from McDonalds instead of 2200 calories daily eating healthy, well balanced meals, the effect on my body would be 100000x worse. Counting calories from ice cream and hot dogs in the same way as counting calories from healthy sources is fucking retarded and so are you.

[Wiggs]

Yes moron, you summed it up perfectly while completely missing the point. Calories come from macronutrients-- they don't fall from the sky. Your body uses the calories which are derived from macronutrients as fuel. Hence, a calorie is not a calorie fuckwad. 100 calories from jelly beans is not the same as 100 calories from sweet potatos. The human body does not metabolize foods with zero nutritional value the same way as foods that are good for you.  So obviously the source of the caloric content is extremely important and not all calories are created equally. If I consumed 2000 calories a day from McDonalds instead of 2200 calories daily eating healthy, well balanced meals, the effect on my body would be 100000x worse. Counting calories from ice cream and hot dogs in the same way as counting calories from healthy sources is fucking retarded and so are you.

Well said...Adam you never addressed this in the past when brought up...What say you?

[Marty Champions]

why would they limit potatoes? they are one of the most healthiest things to consume, one potato has 45% of daily vitamin c and tons of vitamin e

[Marty Champions]

great post nimrod!

[suckmymuscle]

Yes moron, you summed it up perfectly while completely missing the point. Calories come from macronutrients-- they don't fall from the sky. Your body uses the calories which are derived from macronutrients as fuel. Hence, a calorie is not a calorie fuckwad. 100 calories from jelly beans is not the same as 100 calories from sweet potatos. The human body does not metabolize foods with zero nutritional value the same way as foods that are good for you.  So obviously the source of the caloric content is extremely important and not all calories are created equally. If I consumed 2000 calories a day from McDonalds instead of 2200 calories daily eating healthy, well balanced meals, the effect on my body would be 100000x worse. Counting calories from ice cream and hot dogs in the same way as counting calories from healthy sources is fucking retarded and so are you.

  A few points. Calories are calories and it doesen't matter where they come from. What matters is net metabolic calorie budget. Explaining: the body uses calories to digest and assimilate calories from foods to a form that is usable - glucose and adenosine triphosphate. The three different macronutrients, protein, fats and carbohydrates, are different in the amount of calories that it takes for the body to turn them into usable energy. Glucose has virtually no metabolic costs, in the sense that it is already the body's prefered fuel, so glucose that is ingested goes straight to the bloodstream and is used by the body as fuel. Fat has a higher metabolic cost, since it must be broken down into triglycerides that will in turn be broken into glucose. However, fats are calorically very dense, much denser than carbs(9 calories per gram vs 4), so even though the body uses more calories to turn fats into usable calories, fat furnishes a little more net energy than carbs since it's so calorically dense. Protein is the most calorically expensive of all the macronutrients since the body must turn it into glucose via gluconeogenesis in the liver which involves breaking down the long amine chains which is very energy-cosly. Different foods have different net caloric value to the body depending on their ratios of the three macronutrients as well as the length of the chains in the carbohydrates it contains, with long chains(polysaccharides) offering a lower net caloric value than short-chained carbohydrates(saccharides and disaccharides). The higher the proportion of fat and short-chained carbs, the higher the net caloric value of a food, and the more likely you are to gain added bodyfat from it.

  So you are both wrong. Adonis is wrong in that a calorie is not a calorie and that two diets with an equal amount of calories will yield equal fat gain/loss and you are right regarding this, but you are wrong in that it is not the health aspect of diets that matter when determining how much fat you'll gain lose on the same amount of calories on two different diets, but the net caloric value of the two diets. For instance, you will lose more weight on a diet of 1,500 calories a day of table sugar than 1,500 calories of grapes, because table sugar(sucrose) is a compound carb of fructose and glucose, and fructose must be broken in the liver into tryglicerides before it can be utilized, whilst grapes contain almost pure glucose which can be directly used with no expending of calories from the body to process it.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[The True Adonis]

Yes moron, you summed it up perfectly while completely missing the point. Calories come from macronutrients-- they don't fall from the sky. Your body uses the calories which are derived from macronutrients as fuel. Hence, a calorie is not a calorie fuckwad. 100 calories from jelly beans is not the same as 100 calories from sweet potatos. The human body does not metabolize foods with zero nutritional value the same way as foods that are good for you.  So obviously the source of the caloric content is extremely important and not all calories are created equally. If I consumed 2000 calories a day from McDonalds instead of 2200 calories daily eating healthy, well balanced meals, the effect on my body would be 100000x worse. Counting calories from ice cream and hot dogs in the same way as counting calories from healthy sources is fucking retarded and so are you.

False.  2200 calories from McDonalds continuously can easily be VERY healthy for you, moreso than your terrible "bodybuilding" diet.

[The True Adonis]

 A few points. Calories are calories and it doesen't matter where they come from. What matters is net metabolic calorie budget. Explaining: the body uses calories to digest and assimilate calories from foods to a form that is usable - glucose and adenosine triphosphate. The three different macronutrients, protein, fats and carbohydrates, are different in the amount of calories that it takes for the body to turn them into usable energy. Glucose has virtually no metabolic costs, in the sense that it is already the body's prefered fuel, so glucose that is ingested goes straight to the bloodstream and is used by the body as fuel. Fat has a higher metabolic cost, since it must be broken down into triglycerides that will in turn be broken into glucose. However, fats are calorically very dense, much denser than carbs(9 calories per gram vs 4), so even though the body uses more calories to turn fats into usable calories, fat furnishes a little more net energy than carbs since it's so calorically dense. Protein is the most calorically expensive of all the macronutrients since the body must turn it into glucose via gluconeogenesis in the liver which involves breaking down the long amine chains which is very energy-cosly. Different foods have different net caloric value to the body depending on their ratios of the three macronutrients as well as the length of the chains in the carbohydrates it contains, with long chains(polysaccharides) offering a lower net caloric value than short-chained carbohydrates(saccharides and disaccharides). The higher the proportion of fat and short-chained carbs, the higher the net caloric value of a food, and the more likely you are to gain added bodyfat from it.

  So you are both wrong. Adonis is wrong in that a calorie is not a calorie and that two diets with an equal amount of calories will yield equal fat gain/loss and you are right regarding this, but you are wrong in that it is not the health aspect of diets that matter when determining how much fat you'll gain lose on the same amount of calories on two different diets, but the net caloric value of the two diets. For instance, you will lose more weight on a diet of 1,500 calories a day of table sugar than 1,500 calories of grapes, because table sugar(sucrose) is a compound carb of fructose and glucose, and fructose must be broken in the liver into tryglicerides before it can be utilized, whilst grapes contain almost pure glucose which can be directly used with no expending of calories from the body to process it.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

You are wrong.  I have always said a Calorie is a Calorie.  You are claiming I said the opposite which is not true.

[suckmymuscle]

You are wrong.  I have always said a Calorie is a Calorie.  You are claiming I said the opposite which is not true.

  Yes, you are saying that a calorie is a calorie and you are wrong. Where do I state otherwise? You probably didn't even bother to read my post carefully, or if you did you didn't even understand the explanation.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Parker]

False.  2200 calories from McDonalds continuously can easily be VERY healthy for you, moreso than your terrible "bodybuilding" diet.

Depends on what "McDonald's" foods you get it from...
Otherwise my doctor wouldn't tell me to avoid certain foods on there...

[George Whorewell]

False.  2200 calories from McDonalds continuously can easily be VERY healthy for you, moreso than your terrible "bodybuilding" diet.

I never said anything about a bodybuilding diet. I said a healthy diet. The overconsumption of protein and an inadaquate intake of fats and carbs is not healthy either. If you think eating 2200 calories a day from food that is frozen, prepackaged, contains no nutritional value and is  filled with chemicals and artificial ingridients can be considered VERY healthy, I strongly recommend that you eat that way in perpituity. That way you will die faster (or be terminally ill and bed ridden sooner) and vacate the board in a timely manner.

[The True Adonis]

I never said anything about a bodybuilding diet. I said a healthy diet. The overconsumption of protein and an inadaquate intake of fats and carbs is not healthy either. If you think eating 2200 calories a day from food that is frozen, prepackaged, contains no nutritional value and is  filled with chemicals and artificial ingridients can be considered VERY healthy, I strongly recommend that you eat that way in perpituity. That way you will die faster (or be terminally ill and bed ridden sooner) and vacate the board in a timely manner.

An All McDonalds Diet can easily be an extremely healthy diet.  This has been proven time and time again with medical results before and after etc...

Give it a rest creamcake, and crawl back to the Republican Fear Board.

[The True Adonis]

I never said anything about a bodybuilding diet. I said a healthy diet. The overconsumption of protein and an inadaquate intake of fats and carbs is not healthy either. If you think eating 2200 calories a day from food that is frozen, prepackaged, contains no nutritional value and is  filled with chemicals and artificial ingridients can be considered VERY healthy, I strongly recommend that you eat that way in perpituity. That way you will die faster (or be terminally ill and bed ridden sooner) and vacate the board in a timely manner.

Are you claiming that a Mcdonalds hamburger is made of artificial ingredients?  (they aren`t)  Are you also claiming that they don`t have any nutritional value?  (you really can`t be this stupid, or can you?)  Do you realize that they use 85/15 beef of the highest grade with no preservatives?  I will delete my account if you can prove to me that their hamburger patties contain anything "Artificial".

[George Whorewell]

 

This is such a stupid argument that it's beneath me to address you further. You should delete your account for the good of humanity.

[The True Adonis]

This is such a stupid argument that it's beneath me to address you further. You should delete your account for the good of humanity.

The only ignorance being perpetuated is from you.  How is the "artificial ingredient list" coming along? 

[Voice of Doom]

I still don`t get why doctors or anyone would be shocked by this.  Its always amusing to read these stories.  People will always be morons no matter what.  They want to make things more complicated always.  Gives them a sense of purpose I assume.

No kidding!  It should read, "Doctors shocked that eating vegetables is good for you!"

[PJim]

The issue with McDonald's is that they let the rancidity level of the oil in the fryers get to a point where the carcinogens are through the roof. They also use teflon on grills that are far hotter than the chemical structure of teflon can handle, leeching into your food. Having said that, I still love MiccyD's

[George Whorewell]

You promised to delete your account if I could demonstrate that there are artificial ingridients in a McDonalds Hamburger?

Without even delving into the hamburger patty itself you lose the bet. This is taken word for word from the McDonalds website==>

Pickle Slices:
Cucumbers, water, distilled vinegar, salt, calcium chloride, alum, potassium sorbate (preservative), natural flavors (plant source), polysorbate 80, extractives of
turmeric (color).

Premium Bun:
Enriched flour (bleached wheat flour, malted barley flour, niacin, reduced iron, thiamin mononitrate, riboflavin, folic acid), water, high fructose corn syrup, yeast, barley malt extract, soybean oil, salt, wheat gluten, contains 2% or less of the following: calcium sulfate, ammonium sulfate, yellow corn flour, dough conditioners (sodiumstearoyl lactylate, datem, ascorbic acid, azodicarbonamide, distilled monoglycerides, monocalcium phosphate, enzymes, calcium peroxide), turmeric, annatto and paprika extracts (color), natural (plant source) and artificial flavors, caramel color, calcium propionate (preservative), sesame seed

I'm not going to hold my breath because you're pathetic and have no life. I will chalk this up to the same level of idiocy that prompted you to claim that you deadlifted 225x112 times and have video to prove it.

[The True Adonis]

You promised to delete your account if I could demonstrate that there are artificial ingridients in a McDonalds Hamburger?

Without even delving into the hamburger patty itself you lose the bet. This is taken word for word from the McDonalds website==>

Pickle Slices:
Cucumbers, water, distilled vinegar, salt, calcium chloride, alum, potassium sorbate (preservative), natural flavors (plant source), polysorbate 80, extractives of
turmeric (color).

Premium Bun:
Enriched flour (bleached wheat flour, malted barley flour, niacin, reduced iron, thiamin mononitrate, riboflavin, folic acid), water, high fructose corn syrup, yeast, barley malt extract, soybean oil, salt, wheat gluten, contains 2% or less of the following: calcium sulfate, ammonium sulfate, yellow corn flour, dough conditioners (sodiumstearoyl lactylate, datem, ascorbic acid, azodicarbonamide, distilled monoglycerides, monocalcium phosphate, enzymes, calcium peroxide), turmeric, annatto and paprika extracts (color), natural (plant source) and artificial flavors, caramel color, calcium propionate (preservative), sesame seed

I'm not going to hold my breath because you're pathetic and have no life. I will chalk this up to the same level of idiocy that prompted you to claim that you deadlifted 225x112 times and have video to prove it.

1.    How many loaves of bread have you baked in your life?  How many Hamburger buns have you baked?  I surely have done both many times whereas I am quite sure you have NEVER once in your life done either.  Now with that said, if you have ever eaten any bread of any kind it will contain the EXACT same ingredients that you listed above. McDonalds uses Merita buns for a lot of their market, the same you get can get in the supermarket.  They also use a few other brands as well with the same formulation as to what you will find on any bread isle.  There is nothing at all wrong with bread.  I bet you still look awful even if you fail to admit that you eat bread.

2. The same goes for pickles?  Have you done any kind of pickling in your life?  Do you even know what pickling is and what its for?  Its to preserve and hence you must use some sort of preservative be it salt or vinegar or any type of sulfate.  Sulfates are natural by the way, not that it matters.  Furthermore, read the back of ANY Pickle Jar.  Mcdonalds uses THE SAME FUCKING PICKLES YOU CAN GET AT THE GROCERY STORE. 


3. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE go into the Hamburger Patty as that what I was actually referring to.  I PROMISE I will delete my account if you can prove there is anything unnatural about their meat or any chemical.

I will give you a tip you brainless inchworm:  You will be unable to because that is simply not the case.  You lose again.

[SilverSpoon]

Their patty is without a doubt 100% beef, with no fillers or "extenders".