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Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
« Reply #50 on: December 02, 2010, 09:15:01 AM »
Nasser speaks 4 language I being German however the big thing against him being nasser is....... lee priest is friends with him

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Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
« Reply #51 on: December 02, 2010, 09:16:47 AM »
and dennis james is not gh15 . I am 100% sure of that. dennis james is not smart enough to be gh15 and he does not have the cultural or social awareness that gh15 has nor does he have that kind of humor. neither does he have that way of thinking or attention to detail that gh15 has.

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Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
« Reply #52 on: December 02, 2010, 09:17:00 AM »
I think it is Troy Zuccolato.   ;)

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Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
« Reply #53 on: December 02, 2010, 09:18:07 AM »
Nasser speaks 4 language I being German however the big thing against him being nasser is....... lee priest is friends with him

yes like I said there are some things that don't match up, although some of these things can be explained by what you tell someone to their face does not necessarily mean that you really feel that way.  ;D

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Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
« Reply #54 on: December 02, 2010, 09:20:55 AM »
I think it is Troy Zuccolato.   ;)

no  8) . to us who aren't from the us it's very obvious that gh15 is not american and he did not grow up in america. but he admired usa for many years when it comes to politics, music and movies, the american mentality of positive thinking and hard work. (you americans are in general a very hard working people...often work 2 jobs etc).

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Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
« Reply #55 on: December 02, 2010, 09:28:31 AM »
I have read many of nassers inteviews and I have managed to go inside of his head and alot of his thinking (and expressions) goes well with gh15 but there are differences too.

Such as?

I've read (partially) a couple of Nasser's interviews in BB.com after BigBobs posted the links here but nowhere near as much as you have, lol. Someone might sound very different in a formal interview compared to an informal post they make here, esp. with a deliberately flawed style of writing to avoid detection. Same goes for things like loyalty and associations, which can be broken or opposed under an anonymous handle.

So that's not really proof that it's not him, although this is all just speculation haha.


kiwiol you are a smart guy. very sharp eyes, I can see that you don't miss the small details.  ;) and you understand people.

Thank you, Sir. I accept your remarks with gratitude.

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Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
« Reply #56 on: December 02, 2010, 10:15:23 AM »
I think that gh15 is a 100% white german fella, with no arab or middle eastern blood. Probably Marcus or Roland.

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Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
« Reply #57 on: December 02, 2010, 10:31:01 AM »
He's a non-pro. His cumulative knowledge of anabolics and all forms of performance supplementation could be obtained by anyone who trained at Gold's Gym Venice for 6 months.

I would guess he has competed in a few amateur contest somewhere in the world. He hangs around bodybuilding and knows a few people.

I have no explanation for his diabolical syntax.
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Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
« Reply #58 on: December 02, 2010, 10:36:17 AM »
I think that gh15 is a 100% white german fella, with no arab or middle eastern blood. Probably Marcus or Roland.

roland isn't 100% german. he was born in poland. and it's not marcus ruhl either, he doesn't have the right background.

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Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
« Reply #59 on: December 02, 2010, 10:39:18 AM »
roland isn't 100% german. he was born in poland. and it's not marcus ruhl either, he doesn't have the right background.

Exactly. Not to mention neither has as good a command of English (his deliberately flawed writing notwithstanding) as gh15.

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Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
« Reply #60 on: December 02, 2010, 10:51:56 AM »
But... There are 2 Roland's Kicken-something and Czu-something. Or maybe it's this handsome german blonde fella who was smiling all the time...

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Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
« Reply #61 on: December 02, 2010, 11:15:44 AM »
Kamali posts here too could be him

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GH15 = Roland the Pollock Cziurlok
« Reply #62 on: December 02, 2010, 11:41:13 AM »
Here is a news article translated from German about Roland's exploits...The article is from 2005 which would make him 42 years old now...BTW Wavelength translated it...
How convenient that he is against rec drugs...to throw people off his scent...

Let's end this shit...It's not Dennis James (100% sure)
And while it was a possibility it was Ruhl, it's not...

I thought about Nasser also, I believe Nasser and Roland know each other since both lived in Germany at one point...Roland was born in Poland...I even think Roland and Nasser might have shared the account at one time or still do...

So there's is your doG of Whores' moans...

It's fucked up how he went down but that's the game you play...

The only last question I would have is did he have to serve his 2 year sentence or did he get probation...I don't know anyone in the German prison sector, I'd like to know what kind of privileges these guys get...I know they are very, very liberal...wouldn't be surprised if they had internet access...what a way to spend your time...too many parallels for it not to be him or linked to him in some way...He intentionally tries to throw people off with bullshit...




Rise and fall of a world champion.
Once Germany's most successful bodybuilder, now in the court room.

Rolan Cziurlok and his wife Bahar tried to start a new living in Poland.

Wiesbaden (Germany). With ambition and steroids he worked his way up from a former apprentice at the company "Glyco" to a world champion bodybuilder. Following his fast rise was the fall: Roland Cziurlok from Taunusstein-Hahn ended up in the drug scene and finally in the court room.

Searching for Roland Cziurlok on Google provides a ton of hits. Around 2700 websites show mainly pictures of the now 37 year old Taunussteiner, who presents his gigantic muscles at competitions, e.g. at the world championship in Seoul, where Cziurlok won the light-heavywheight class at age 26.

Posters of the native Pole can be purchased on the internet for 11 Euros, supplements are sold under his name. In 1997, his most successful year, he founded a supplement company making 200000 DM (100000 Euros) a year. In addition to that he made 5000 DM (2500 Euros) a month as a professional bodybuilder, which is not much considering his investments and health-wise sacrifices. "You have to be an actor to make money in bodybuilding", he says refering to the top man of his profession: Arnold Schwarzenegger, the star of the "Terminator"-Movies and today's governor of California.

In his good years Cziurlok drove a Jaguar. Today, after his fall, he drives an Opel Vectra. "Turbo Diesel", he adds when asked about it in the court room, showing that he still has his pride.

Cziorlok comes from a poor family. In 1980 he moved from Schlesien to Germany. It took him a long time to lean german. He worked his way up through secondary school and a apprenticeship at automobil-subcontractor Glyco. He is a climber that fell deep. In 2000 several muscle tears ended his competitive career. It was a small step from anabolics consum to wodka and cognac. For his disco-weekends, drinking a whole bottle was not uncommon. Additionally, he doped up with amphetamines and sometimes cocain. His drug abuse was not without consequences. His company crashed and Cziurlok has been out of work ever since, without hope to find a new job. Now he wants to return to Poland. "My future lies in the east", he says.

But before that, he must await his conviction. The 37 year old is accused of selling a kilo (2.2 pounds) amphetamine in a Wiesbadener office, which he denies. However, he admits providing amphetamines as well as 150 kilogramms (330 pounds) of cocain to a friend one year ago.

Cziurlok was left with no choice other than confession of the deal: his friend was an undercover cop. Before that he was an employee at a bank, than an insurance company and finally unemployed. In 1996 he talked to Cziurlok at a fitness show about becoming a bodybuilder and competing. "When I became a world champion, a lot of people approached me", says Cziurlok. But with very few he had the kind of connection as with the undercover cop. The friendship lasted several years, Cziurlok even let his friend stay over at his house. A year ago, his friend asked him to provide him with drugs. He begged Cziurlok for selling him drugs because allegedly he needed to make money selling drugs himself. Cziurlok was known in the Wiesbadener scene as someone who has access to drugs or at least know where to get them (from people who he refuses to name until now out of fear). Shortly after the drug deal, Cziurloks carrier was at a low point. The world champion was imprisoned on remand for 28 days.

He got his act together now, he says: no drugs, no alcohol, but instead a therapy, which he is convinced to turn out successful.
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Re: GH15 = Roland the Pollock Cziurlok
« Reply #63 on: December 02, 2010, 11:45:26 AM »
Living the dream.......

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Re: GH15 = Roland the Pollock Cziurlok
« Reply #64 on: December 02, 2010, 11:50:34 AM »
Other people have said this... it would have to be a shared account tho because gh15 talks about competing on the olympia stage.

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Re: GH15 = Roland the Pollock Cziurlok
« Reply #65 on: December 02, 2010, 11:52:00 AM »
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Re: GH15 = Roland the Pollock Cziurlok
« Reply #66 on: December 02, 2010, 11:52:36 AM »
Other people have said this... it would have to be a shared account tho because gh15 talks about competing on the olympia stage.


I know, and Roland has competed in the Olympia on more than one occasion...
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Re: GH15 = Roland the Pollock Cziurlok
« Reply #67 on: December 02, 2010, 11:54:59 AM »
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Re: GH15 = Roland the Pollock Cziurlok
« Reply #68 on: December 02, 2010, 11:55:55 AM »
Other people have said this... it would have to be a shared account tho because gh15 talks about competing on the olympia stage.

Blockhead started that rumor - said he spoke to Roland in one of the bodybuilding expos back in 2006 and that the guy hinted he knew who gh15 was.

Don't think it's him, though - gh15 lives in the US and knows English very well, as opposed to Roland C. Don't think Roland has lived in the US at all, esp. to make all the first hand observations gh15 comes up with.

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Re: GH15 = Roland the Pollock Cziurlok
« Reply #69 on: December 02, 2010, 11:56:58 AM »
IF it's a pro, it's nasser

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Re: GH15 = Roland the Pollock Cziurlok
« Reply #70 on: December 02, 2010, 12:04:48 PM »
Confirms my suspicions ie. a white german

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Re: GH15 = Roland the Pollock Cziurlok
« Reply #71 on: December 02, 2010, 12:10:39 PM »
IF it's a pro, it's nasser

Yep. One of his biggest followers has compiled a serious report on him and is fairly accurate in his assessment

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=357797.msg5056039#msg5056039

Roland Cziurlok seems too dumb to be gh15

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Re: GH15 = Roland the Pollock Cziurlok
« Reply #72 on: December 02, 2010, 12:13:45 PM »


i still say its Disgusted.

if i had to pick a pro it would be kamali.

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Re: GH15 = Roland the Pollock Cziurlok
« Reply #73 on: December 02, 2010, 12:14:09 PM »

Don't think it's him, though - gh15  knows English very well,

Please read then re-evaluate:

oh so you think you are not damned yet?  :D here you go food for thought,,

justin briber
britney speers
jesica simson
snoop doggy
let see who else ummm
puff daddy? does he ever had one song that will be remember? thought so
lady gag gag ,,her time is up since she finished stealing all abba ideas

lets see who else
the 50 cent fella,,what song did he ever write other than be careful before ill stab you if you look at me wrong im part of the hood,,


you are all one hit that is not even hit its just hit due to generation nothingness that has very low stimulation level and lose interest fast,,

a society fall and rise by its calture and your culture in americana is the worst it ever been ,,you are going down wether you want it or not,,


the moment you chose that black fella that is MUSLIM to be your president based on internet whore with fake boobs that slept with most liley 100 cocks in her life time,,moment you chose him based on that internet propaganda with out looking into him,,thats when you oose your soul completely,,

so ,,it started in the clinton years,,remember when he fucked monica the jew and put a cigar up her pussy and you all giggled ,,and then your daughters followed closely and started fuckin young student in classrooms,,remembere that? ok,,so it came from clinton era ,,went into george fucked up loonateek bush that didnt knwo how to let pride go and had to work his presidency like the revenge of the god father while crashing you into waste and into a fall youll never see recovery from ,,

and then the cherry on the cake HUSSEIN OBAMA,,you fools chose that internet no one over a war hero a combat pilot,, someone with more exprience who woudnt help you since you already in the shit deep deep,,but just the chosing of hudssein obama show how DUMB americanos are,,

the giels in americana are nothing but whores,,9 out of 10 are whores,,1 out of 10 is normal but to find her takes years,,then you got the guys,,the guys are just drunks ,,they really are drunks no other words to describe it ,,drunks ,,both male female in americnaa could care less about the world ,,and thats how your culture fell both musically and movically new word:)

i can assure you no one  will be with you  through the fall beside one country ,,and it is no great britain ,,the only one that will be beside you by fire and through hell is thatisreal state ,,thatgs it ,,rest of the world are fake scumbags that will leave the moment youre in the shits and they already started

gh15 approved
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Re: Dont we already have enough info to uncover GH15??
« Reply #74 on: December 02, 2010, 12:22:35 PM »
This is like trying to prove the existence of Santa Clause.  Only children believe in him.