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Check out the link there's a power point on it lol

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/12/realtime/

Threat Level Privacy, Crime and Security Online

Federal law enforcement agencies have been tracking Americans in real-time using credit cards, loyalty cards and travel reservations without getting a court order, a new document released under a government sunshine request shows.

The document, obtained by security researcher Christopher Soghoian, explains how so-called “Hotwatch” orders allow for real-time tracking of individuals in a criminal investigation via credit card companies, rental car agencies, calling cards, and even grocery store loyalty programs. The revelation sheds a little more light on the Justice Department’s increasing power and willingness to surveil Americans with little to no judicial or Congressional oversight.

For credit cards, agents can get real-time information on a person’s purchases by writing their own subpoena, followed up by a order from a judge that the surveillance not be disclosed. Agents can also go the traditional route — going to a judge, proving probable cause and getting a search warrant — which means the target will eventually be notified they were spied on.

The document suggests that the normal practice is to ask for all historical records on an account or individual from a credit card company, since getting stored records is generally legally easy. Then the agent sends a request for “Any and all records and information relating directly or indirectly to any and all ongoing and future transactions or events relating to any and all of the following person(s), entitities, account numbers, addresses and other matters…” That gets them a live feed of transaction data.


It’s not clear what standards an agent would have to follow to get a “Hotwatch” order. The Justice Department told Sogohian the document is the only one it could find relating to “hotwatches” — which means there is either no policy or the department is witholding relevant documents.

The Justice Department did not return a call for comment.

Every year, the Justice Department does have to report to Congress the numbers of criminal and national security wiretaps undertaken, as well as the number of National Security Letters issued. Tens of thousands of NSLs are issued yearly — most with gag orders that forbid ISPs or librarians from ever saying they have ever been served with such a subpoena.

But the Justice Department does not report or make public the number of times it got real time or historic cell phone location information, nor how often it is using these so-called “hotwatch” orders.

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Re: Feds Warrantlessly Tracking Americans’ Credit Cards in Real Time
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2010, 04:06:13 PM »
Ozmo - sooner rather than later you are going to see I am not nearly as crazy as you think.

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Re: Feds Warrantlessly Tracking Americans’ Credit Cards in Real Time
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2010, 04:09:38 PM »
Seriously, wtf is going on here lately?

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Re: Feds Warrantlessly Tracking Americans’ Credit Cards in Real Time
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2010, 04:12:48 PM »
Ozmo - sooner rather than later you are going to see I am not nearly as crazy as you think.
I never thought you were that crazy. Lol

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Re: Feds Warrantlessly Tracking Americans’ Credit Cards in Real Time
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2010, 07:09:31 PM »
I'm not even going to say the shit that been happening to me since i got an Android (Google) smartphone..It's almost scary guys.

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Re: Feds Warrantlessly Tracking Americans’ Credit Cards in Real Time
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2010, 07:11:53 PM »
Do tell. 

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Re: Feds Warrantlessly Tracking Americans’ Credit Cards in Real Time
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2010, 09:19:04 PM »
I'm not even going to say the shit that been happening to me since i got an Android (Google) smartphone..It's almost scary guys.

Main reason why I won't get one of those.  There's no quality control over their apps, which means the author can do pretty much whatever they want, including sending GPS data, call history, etc back to their own servers.

No thanks.

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Re: Feds Warrantlessly Tracking Americans’ Credit Cards in Real Time
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2010, 10:04:59 AM »
Main reason why I won't get one of those.  There's no quality control over their apps, which means the author can do pretty much whatever they want, including sending GPS data, call history, etc back to their own servers.

No thanks.

I hacked the phone and installed Cyanogenmod 6.0 last night..The operation took me 2.5 hours..However, it was worth it......Got rid of all the Google Applications, and other spyware...

I can't download from the google marketplace now..The horror...

I can only run unauthorized apps now..  

I wanted to install the program Swype..However, the program said it has the right to record all the information i type for texts etc..

No thanks...

Google Latitude can't be uninstalled from the applications in the normal Android operating system, and it tracks where you are located to a few feet 24 hours a day..
 
Google response is that you can disable the application. However, i know with 100% certainty you can't even disable it.





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Re: Feds Warrantlessly Tracking Americans’ Credit Cards in Real Time
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2010, 07:25:43 PM »
Of course the noose tightens. Smart greedy ppl are dangerous we should stop putting them in charge ;)
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Re: Feds Warrantlessly Tracking Americans’ Credit Cards in Real Time
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2010, 08:24:40 PM »
I think someone said it on here before cannot remember who [240 maybe]. suddenly I see a connection with this financial crisis and technology.

We're going to become a cashless society and get chipped or something. bound to happen unfortunately.

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Re: Feds Warrantlessly Tracking Americans’ Credit Cards in Real Time
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2010, 11:17:07 PM »
 :o   >:(

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Re: Feds Warrantlessly Tracking Americans’ Credit Cards in Real Time
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2010, 11:05:04 AM »
Everything the CT'ers are saying is turning out to be true.

Who would have thought

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Re: Feds Warrantlessly Tracking Americans’ Credit Cards in Real Time
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2010, 11:24:27 AM »
Everything the CT'ers are saying is turning out to be true.

Who would have thought

what that conspiracy theories would become co-opted and the people who actually were aware of this stuff would just become their parrots?? ::)