Republicans Vote AGAINST TAX CUTS For 98% Of Americans!!!

[Straw Man]

Straw - the problem is that none of any supposed added revenue will be used for deficit reduction - they will piss It away. 

what added revenue are you talking about?

extending all tax cuts is supposed to increase deficit by 700 billion

Repubs and Dems are voting to increase the deficit to give wealthy people more tax cuts but next week they'll be telling us why they have to cut something (or can't fund something) that will only effect middle class/poor people because it will increase the deficit

[Kazan]

your fuc ing joking,  right

Do a little research before making yourself look stupid (again), ever heard of the earned income tax credit?

[Soul Crusher]

We have had these rates for ten years already.  The 700 billion figure is pure bs. 

[Kazan]

let them all expire

lower income earner won't even feel it and  since keeping them in place would increase the deficit it's better to let them all go and Repubs can write new legislation if they want to

So basically what your saying is, the government went on a spending spree and fucked up the economy and now instead of the government cutting said spending, the tax payer should just buck up and be patriotic and pay more? Why? the government won't pay down the deficit, they'll just find some other hand out to spend it on.

[dario73]

Do a little research before making yourself look stupid (again)

He can't help it. It comes natural for him.

[Straw Man]

So basically what your saying is, the government went on a spending spree and fucked up the economy and now instead of the government cutting said spending, the tax payer should just buck up and be patriotic and pay more? Why? the government won't pay down the deficit, they'll just find some other hand out to spend it on.

we need increase in tax revenue coupled with decrease in spending and we need it for a long time to come

people making 30-50k a year won't even feel the tax increase and the higher income earners won't feel it either.

The idea that we have to extend tax cuts for uber wealty so that maybe they will grace our economy with new jobs is bullshit

These tax cuts were enacted at a time when we had a deficit and were not involved in 2 wars

let them expire and let's draft new legislation based on our current situation

[Soul Crusher]

Yeah straw - bama won't even get behind his own debt commissions recommendations.

[Straw Man]

Yeah straw - bama won't even get behind his own debt commissions recommendations.

you mean the commission that Repubs said they wanted and then when Obama got on board the 6 Repubs who co-sponsored the bill voted against it and Obama had to create it by executive order

do you know any Repubs who want to "get behind" that commission?

[George Whorewell]

you mean the commission that Repubs said they wanted and then when Obama got on board the 6 Repubs who co-sponsored the bill voted against it and Obama had to create it by executive order

do you know any Repubs who want to "get behind" that commission?

Straw= wants to "get behind" any member of the same sex that he can find

[dario73]

It's all Bush's fault. It's the Reps fault. Everyone is at fault except the false messiah and the Dems. The task is just too hard for them.

Please.

[Straw Man]

Straw= wants to "get behind" any member of the same sex that he can find

hilarious

your first response is to accuse someone of being gay

when are you going to stop hating yourself and come out of the closet

or maybe you enjoy the dark closet with your buddy Billy

[MCWAY]

we need increase in tax revenue coupled with decrease in spending and we need it for a long time to come

people making 30-50k a year won't even feel the tax increase and the higher income earners won't feel it either.

The idea that we have to extend tax cuts for uber wealty so that maybe they will grace our economy with new jobs is bullshit

These tax cuts were enacted at a time when we had a deficit and were not involved in 2 wars

let them expire and let's draft new legislation based on our current situation

Are you out of your natural mind?

The higher income earners WILL feel it. They always do, because the rich ain't just going to sit back and let Uncle Sam snatch their cash. They're going to bail, leaving the burden on us.

[Straw Man]

Are you out of your natural mind?

The higher income earners WILL feel it. They always do, because the rich ain't just going to sit back and let Uncle Sam snatch their cash. They're going to bail, leaving the burden on us.

the rich are going to bail and "leave the burden on us" ?

where exactly are they going to go when they bail?

maybe they can move to Somolia where there are no taxes

The rich are weathly in large part due to living in this country with our low tax rates and and economic environment that enabled them to accumulate wealth.  

even if they do "feel it" it won't change their life in any significant way and we already know that giving them a tax cut won't create jobs

so....the only effect it that we increase the deficit and have nothing to show for it in return

[dario73]

No amendment to the title yet?

[240 is Back]

Please.  You know this is bogus nonsense.

why?

[Soul Crusher]

why?

Because the rates have stayed the same for the last 10 years!  Keep rates does not add to the deficit.  They are making wild assumptions about the revenue generation from these tax hikes which is the same hokus pokus crap you ignorantly, foolishly, and stupisly bought into that was behind the Stim Bill.  Remember how that worked out for you?

Raising taxes NEVER results in the promised revenue from the thieves nd whatever money they do get invariably gets pissed away. 
   

[George Whorewell]

hilarious

your first response is to accuse someone of being gay

when are you going to stop hating yourself and come out of the closet

or maybe you enjoy the dark closet with your buddy Billy

I never accused anyone on this entire board of being gay except you. I'm also not homophobic. Your comparison doesn't fly at all. However, I am inclined to believe that your incessant need to respond indicates you have a guilty conscience about being in the closet yourself.

[Straw Man]

I never accused anyone on this entire board of being gay except you. I'm also not homophobic. Your comparison doesn't fly at all. However, I am inclined to believe that your incessant need to respond indicates you have a guilty conscience about being in the closet yourself.

I'm not buying it but keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better

why don't you try commenting on the topic of the thread instead

[MB]

We should be passing legislation to drop tax rates even further.  Until the federal government can learn how to stop spending, it is pointless to give them any more money.  Cut federal spending by 50% and drop taxes 25%.  Use the surplus to pay down our debt.   

[Soul Crusher]

The govt currently borrows .43 of every dollar it spends and is doing shit it has no business doing. 

Govt needs to shrink by at least 50% if we are to have any type of recovery. 

[240 is Back]

The govt currently borrows .43 of every dollar it spends and is doing shit it has no business doing. 

Govt needs to shrink by at least 50% if we are to have any type of recovery. 

Well, isn't something like HALF of the govt's budget already defense spending?

So by your number of AT LEAST 50% - you are saying you'd like to slash the military in half?  True?

And if not, you'd like to compeltely shit down EVERY SINGLE PROGRAM 100% in order to keep military levels at status quo, while cutting things by 50?


I hear this all the time - people who want to slash govt spending by oodles, but want to spend more on military.  If that's not you, i apologize - I don't want to assume - so would you be okay with the USA cutting our military (and 1000 overseas bases) IN HALF?

[Soul Crusher]

Well, isn't something like HALF of the govt's budget already defense spending?

So by your number of AT LEAST 50% - you are saying you'd like to slash the military in half?  True?

And if not, you'd like to compeltely shit down EVERY SINGLE PROGRAM 100% in order to keep military levels at status quo, while cutting things by 50?


I hear this all the time - people who want to slash govt spending by oodles, but want to spend more on military.  If that's not you, i apologize - I don't want to assume - so would you be okay with the USA cutting our military (and 1000 overseas bases) IN HALF?

Across the board by 10% for 5 years every year.   

[240 is Back]

Across the board by 10% for 5 years every year.   

okay.  So please clarify - you are okay with slashing our military by 10% every year for 5 years?

You're okay with - five years from now - the USA lacking the military support it has in HALF THE WORLD? 

You're okay with moving bases out of essential places that keep china and russia in check for fear an attack on USA would result in those bases firing nukes up their asses?

You're okay with putting 1.5 million brave soldiers out of work?   (not to mention the support staff which about equals that).

You're okay with having half as much safety in 5 years - when places like NK and iran will start to put their functional nukes on missiles that might make it more than a few miles?

Just say you're okay with that, please.

[Soul Crusher]

okay.  So please clarify - you are okay with slashing our military by 10% every year for 5 years?

You're okay with - five years from now - the USA lacking the military support it has in HALF THE WORLD? 

You're okay with moving bases out of essential places that keep china and russia in check for fear an attack on USA would result in those bases firing nukes up their asses?

You're okay with putting 1.5 million brave soldiers out of work?   (not to mention the support staff which about equals that).

You're okay with having half as much safety in 5 years - when places like NK and iran will start to put their functional nukes on missiles that might make it more than a few miles?

Just say you're okay with that, please.

Like any other organization - they can figure it out.  we can't afford it - how hard is that for you to grasp? 

[240 is Back]

Like any other organization - they can figure it out.  we can't afford it - how hard is that for you to grasp? 

They can "figure it out"?

I mean, if i took half of your internal organs, can you FIGURE IT OUT?  LOL!

No, it means exactly what I said it means.  1.5 million troops fired.  bases on border of china and russia closed. 

China is already an inch away from killing our economy.  Do you think we can afford to remove the bargaining chip of "we can blow up most of your cities in 40 minutes" off the table?