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Re: Republicans Vote AGAINST TAX CUTS For 98% Of Americans!!!
« Reply #50 on: December 03, 2010, 11:59:38 AM »
They can "figure it out"?

I mean, if i took half of your internal organs, can you FIGURE IT OUT?  LOL! :)

No, it means exactly what I said it means.  1.5 million troops fired.  bases on border of china and russia closed. 

China is already an inch away from killing our economy.  Do you think we can afford to remove the bargaining chip of "we can blow up most of your cities in 40 minutes" off the table?  :)


Tough shit, we cant afford it anymore. 

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Re: Republicans Vote AGAINST TAX CUTS For 98% Of Americans!!!
« Reply #51 on: December 03, 2010, 12:02:58 PM »

Tough shit, we cant afford it anymore.  

what does everyone else here think?

Slash 1/2 of the US military and defense budget - what happens?

Do our enemies get any bolder when half the bases keeping them in check disappear?  

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Re: Republicans Vote AGAINST TAX CUTS For 98% Of Americans!!!
« Reply #52 on: December 03, 2010, 12:04:36 PM »
what does everyone else here think?

Slash 1/2 of the US military and defense budget - what happens?

Do our enemies get any bolder when half the bases keeping them in check disappear?  


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Re: Republicans Vote AGAINST TAX CUTS For 98% Of Americans!!!
« Reply #53 on: December 03, 2010, 12:06:29 PM »
what does everyone else here think?

Slash 1/2 of the US military and defense budget - what happens?

Do our enemies get any bolder? 


Thats the problem, which is that we would not have to "slash" the military as far as personnel....the VAST majority of the budget is from weapons and development and maintaining overseas bases.....f that...they served a purpose when it was to deter the Soviets, but now we can deploy SO much faster if the need arises.    The actual payment to service members is not the problem, and you can't go by what the military figures that are used, as they try to give a "civilian comparison" to what is being paid...adding in housing, medical, etc... at bloated figures.

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Re: Republicans Vote AGAINST TAX CUTS For 98% Of Americans!!!
« Reply #54 on: December 03, 2010, 12:32:01 PM »
Thats the problem, which is that we would not have to "slash" the military as far as personnel....the VAST majority of the budget is from weapons and development and maintaining overseas bases.....f that...they served a purpose when it was to deter the Soviets, but now we can deploy SO much faster if the need arises.    The actual payment to service members is not the problem, and you can't go by what the military figures that are used, as they try to give a "civilian comparison" to what is being paid...adding in housing, medical, etc... at bloated figures.

good point.

but who among us would have wanted to slash atomic weapons research in the 1940s?

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Re: Republicans Vote AGAINST TAX CUTS For 98% Of Americans!!!
« Reply #55 on: December 03, 2010, 01:09:46 PM »
Thats the problem, which is that we would not have to "slash" the military as far as personnel....the VAST majority of the budget is from weapons and development and maintaining overseas bases.....f that...they served a purpose when it was to deter the Soviets, but now we can deploy SO much faster if the need arises.    The actual payment to service members is not the problem, and you can't go by what the military figures that are used, as they try to give a "civilian comparison" to what is being paid...adding in housing, medical, etc... at bloated figures.

Exactly.  We could slash military spending by 50% without losing any personnel.  We can no longer afford to police the world.  If we don't stop spending so much, we won't even be able to protect ourselves.  Let's not forget social security, medicare, welfare, education, government jobs, etc.  Cut everything 50% and people will learn to adjust.

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Re: Republicans Vote AGAINST TAX CUTS For 98% Of Americans!!!
« Reply #56 on: December 03, 2010, 02:56:52 PM »
good point.

but who among us would have wanted to slash atomic weapons research in the 1940s?

That is always a tough call....you want to be on the cutting edge with tech.  Much of it could be dealt with a VERY open competitive bidding process, instead of just throwing cash at corps to do very remote possibilty testing, just to keep the cash flowing.

Another pet peeve I had when on active was the contractor work.  We were often paying guys 5 times, no exaggeration, what a military member could perform if trained properly.  A great way to address this is let active duty/reserve personnel do a kind of tradeoff, where the military will send you to a specific school, and I'm talking more about civilian ones, pay for, but you have to obligate a time in service.  They already do it with the medical and dental corps and those of us who went to "A" and especially "C" school in the Navy, often had to extend our service obligation to get the school.  This would really help with computer/tech guys who could keep themselves up to date in case they want to go into a civilian career after the service.