Enough with the gh15 obsession- for the getbig veterans.

[Fatpanda]

Just a slight exaggeration don`t you think Panda?

no - not in the slightest.

he claiming more muscle than most 60-70's bodybuilders, and half the 80's and 90's guys too. 

unless you mean groink is exaggerating ?

[Fatpanda]

Oh yeah...

I'm a big fan of ground turkey...What I did then was 6oz (170gms) of ground turkey...Tacobell at the time was selling their seasoning and I would make about 4-5 lbs at a time (2 kilos) put them in small tupperware containers with white rice and that would account for 4-5 of my meals...I never got tired of it, it just became routine and I didn't have to think about it...
At the time I didn't know about carb cycling or any of that other stuff...I would say I got about 200-225mg or protein and 200mg of carbs...I also took t-3, clen and ECA up to 100mg. for t-3.. not the entire time...The GH def was real my wrist hurt like shit after day 2...I did cardio 4-5 times per week 45 min.  I didn't do ECA and clen together it was one or the other.

This time, I'm going with variety, I include all sorts of veggies,  different carb sources and chicken vs. turkey..
Because I started working again, I'm going to go back to the turkey in a tupperware with veggies and most of my carbs will be in morning and post workout meals...very little in between...
I'll use gh still deciding on the dose, I'll use t-3...probably not clen and maybe ECA...I have DNP but would not consider using it unless I'm trying to get to 5-7% bf and I have no plans to do that unless it's for a show and as of now I'm not doing a show...

Current cycle is 800 mg test E, 600 mg Eq (blend...400mg test/300mg eq)
50mg t-3 ed
25 mg proviron ed
50 mg arimidex eod.

Only thing that will change is 4 or 6 i.u of Riptropin ed
t-3 will bump up to 100mg
ECA

Cardio 3-5 times per week.30 min..I like cardio, I like to people watch

great man 

best of luck to you 

you won't need it though - you have a strong will and mind 

merry xmas 

[Spike]

never ever stop bodybuildign,,because when you try to come back it will be very hard,,the process of losing lean muscle mass espeically at your level is very hard to attain again ,,you always think you can get it back fast,,but in reality it takes 6-12 good months with all products at hand ,,ALL,,

you got good potential and youg,,dont quit,,but if you want to get anywhere in bodybuilding it wil have to be up the dose as we say it ,,and lots of gh,,you can get quite far then again youl neveer big money out of bodybuilding we all do it for passion ,,

now if you good source....thats another story ,,lots and lots of money,,but bodybuilding persay doesnt giveb you a lot of money,,and its hard unless you got supportive surrounding and enough money to put on everythign needed from drugs to food because you need to eat A LOT on hgh to pass the intial smily face 230-240 10%,,to get up to the 250 260 270 280 at singles oh you eat your momy and daddy and lots of hgh
gh15 approved

tru

everytime I move back into the 'rents house I get around 270 - I move out I get to 250 or so - always on gh but I think its allthe food I dont have to pay for

shout out to evan C

[Man of Steel]

never ever stop bodybuildign,,because when you try to come back it will be very hard,,the process of losing lean muscle mass espeically at your level is very hard to attain again ,,you always think you can get it back fast,,but in reality it takes 6-12 good months with all products at hand ,,ALL,,

you got good potential and youg,,dont quit,,but if you want to get anywhere in bodybuilding it wil have to be up the dose as we say it ,,and lots of gh,,you can get quite far then again youl neveer big money out of bodybuilding we all do it for passion ,,

now if you good source....thats another story ,,lots and lots of money,,but bodybuilding persay doesnt giveb you a lot of money,,and its hard unless you got supportive surrounding and enough money to put on everythign needed from drugs to food because you need to eat A LOT on hgh to pass the intial smily face 230-240 10%,,to get up to the 250 260 270 280 at singles oh you eat your momy and daddy and lots of hgh

gh15 approved

Men and women should never begin bb in the first place.  Sure, workout and eat right and enjoy your hobby and health, but if you get that twinkle in your eye and decisions about drug use and bb stages enters your brain it's time to step away and get your head screwed on straight.  Step number one is to logoff Getbig.

[4thAD]

Not claiming to be a superior guru than gh15 or discrediting him in any way..  The guy knows his stuff. I learned a lot from him....   The importance of using drugs mainly....  But come on guys..  He has been saying the same thing for years now, and now we have a wave of guys , some of which that used to call gh15 an idiot, all on his balls and acting as if they have found the holy grail in this latest posts. Nothing new there dudes...   He has always said lots of roids + lots of gh = big ripped bodybuilder...  However let me tell you something, especially for this new crop of gh15 believers...  A lot of you seem very excited to start " mutating"...   You are expecting dramatic changes and to look like a bodybuilder overnight..  Most of y'all probably think you already look at least a little muscular, and with the way gh15 describes the effects of drugs you do not doubt you'll be a beast in no time - a few months max.   The reality is that you are going to be both amazed by how much faster you can grow and get lean, but also become aware of the fact that even with the dramatic increase in recovery, growth, etc that its going to take you a very long time in order to look like you want to. And itslikely, if your serious about building your dream body, you will stay on for the next severalyears of yourlife,if not decades... Mbecause that is how much use it is goiing to take for you to get there, even if your training insane and eating huge...   


Okay okay, I'm not trying to hate on anybody 's excitement and eagerness to juice nor am I trying to discourage anyone from juicing..  Just a dose of reality for those of you who need it 

Agreed! Good post T.

[tbombz]

Agreed! Good post T.

thanks mayne  

[stuntmovie]

I agree with that also, T.

I've been around a long time and way before roids became somewhat popular but the use of roids in my time was minimal compared to what's going on at present.

My only problem with GH 15 is how he says it and not with what he says.

When the use of roids was not illegal, a good friend of mine took 2,100 mg of shit a day - all precisely calculated so that he would always be at his drug intake peak. I think it was 6 weeks on, 4 weeks off and back to another 6 weeks on. (I can contact him for the exact details if anyone is really interested.)

A few months later he entered a local amateur contest, took first in his class and first overall and all the body part trophies that used to be awarded in those days.

And then he was asked to compete that same evening against the seven or eight IFBB pros who were primed to take home the winnings. (Back then this was no problem.)

He reluctantly agreed to do so and ended up walking away with that IFBB overall title and all the bodypart trophies that were presented.

It took the help of four of his friends and their cars to transport those 6 foot trophies back to KMCAS.

The last time I spoke with him he told me that the guys today are doing even more than he did back then.

And I can only assume that they are.
 

[gh15]

I agree with that also, T.

I've been around a long time and way before roids became somewhat popular but the use of roids in my time was minimal compared to what's going on at present.

My only problem with GH 15 is how he says it and not with what he says.

When the use of roids was not illegal, a good friend of mine took 2,100 mg of shit a day - all precisely calculated so that he would always be at his drug intake peak. I think it was 6 weeks on, 4 weeks off and back to another 6 weeks on. (I can contact him for the exact details if anyone is really interested.)

A few months later he entered a local amateur contest, took first in his class and first overall and all the body part trophies that used to be awarded in those days.

And then he was asked to compete that same evening against the seven or eight IFBB pros who were primed to take home the winnings. (Back then this was no problem.)

He reluctantly agreed to do so and ended up walking away with that IFBB overall title and all the bodypart trophies that were presented.

It took the help of four of his friends and their cars to transport those 6 foot trophies back to KMCAS.

The last time I spoke with him he told me that the guys today are doing even more than he did back then.

And I can only assume that they are.
 

yep,, fellas today live their day according to their injection schedule ,,infact,,oral use become less and less now its a lot more injection use,,lots and lots of poking  ,,orals ae still used a lot but today its all about the injection,,you got fellas now days that put in their ass and i am not kidding now,,5-6 cc every single day ,,listen to what im saying here,,5-6 cc/ml every single day of the week each butt cheeck 3 cc ,,

gh15 approved

[tbombz]

Men and women should never begin bb in the first place.  Sure, workout and eat right and enjoy your hobby and health, but if you get that twinkle in your eye and decisions about drug use and bb stages enters your brain it's time to step away and get your head screwed on straight.  Step number one is to logoff Getbig.

thats just ignorant

[stuntmovie]

Yes,  GH15! And that’s where the big problem with competitive bodybuilding lies today.

“More” never seems to be ‘enough’ and those who rely on ‘more’ are the ‘winners‘ who reap the rewards!

It’s almost like  “You can’t beat progress!”

But this progress comes with adverse side effects in many cases.

But who’s to stop it?

The competitive bodybuilders themselves?

No way! Not if they want to keep on winning!

The officials who run the events and decide who should win them?

That hasn’t seemed to work too well either.

Other organizations that claim to promote ‘natural, drug free’ contests?

Name the natural organization that actually does do what they  claim to do!

I sure can’t!

But a change will eventually come from either one of two directions.

Fron the inside or the outside. From the IFBB or from federal mandate.

Or possibly  a joint effort from both directions working hand in hand together.

Sounds impossible, doesn’t  it? But he who leads the way and resolves the problem regardless of the objections will most likely be looked upon as Sir Gallahad on his great white steed by the media controlled, American public.

And that ‘public opinion’ alone just might be the major factor that will make one side or another stand up and make a change for the ‘better’.

Change will come, but not tomorrow nor the day after.

But the pressure of public opinion, no matter how erroneous it may or may not be, is a mighty force that will eventually have to be reckoned with.

It just moves slowly …. over many bumps.

[Captain Equipoise]

To be honest man im getting burned out. This winter has been harder then most. I feel like i have one more year left in me. For me to compete this year at the State show and to do North Americans i am going to have to raise approximately 5000 dollars for travel, entry fees, room, etc... You put soo much into this sport and nothing but negativity comes out of it. It is hard to keep pushing. I might flip my attitude around spring... it seems to always happen but every winter gets harder and harder.

You just need to find the right sponsor!

[Lord of the Roidz]

You just need to find the right sponsor!

Or...to use a word I invented.."A Schmonsor."  Which is  a Sponsor that is also a Schmoe.

[The Wizard of Truth]

Yes,  GH15! And that’s where the big problem with competitive bodybuilding lies today.

“More” never seems to be ‘enough’ and those who rely on ‘more’ are the ‘winners‘ who reap the rewards!

It’s almost like  “You can’t beat progress!”

But this progress comes with adverse side effects in many cases.

But who’s to stop it?

The competitive bodybuilders themselves?

No way! Not if they want to keep on winning!

The officials who run the events and decide who should win them?

That hasn’t seemed to work too well either.

Other organizations that claim to promote ‘natural, drug free’ contests?

Name the natural organization that actually does do what they  claim to do!

I sure can’t!

But a change will eventually come from either one of two directions.

Fron the inside or the outside. From the IFBB or from federal mandate.

Or possibly  a joint effort from both directions working hand in hand together.

Sounds impossible, doesn’t  it? But he who leads the way and resolves the problem regardless of the objections will most likely be looked upon as Sir Gallahad on his great white steed by the media controlled, American public.

And that ‘public opinion’ alone just might be the major factor that will make one side or another stand up and make a change for the ‘better’.

Change will come, but not tomorrow nor the day after.

But the pressure of public opinion, no matter how erroneous it may or may not be, is a mighty force that will eventually have to be reckoned with.

It just moves slowly …. over many bumps.

Who cares though?
I dont care what anyone else uses, I dont care if guys are using 'more and more'
Its bodybuilding and lots of gear builds your body, whats the issue?

[caseyviator]

i still say taken all these drugs n growing muscle and working out is still much less dangerous than smokin 3 packs a day and drinkin a 12 pack every nite....i really believe the 2 worst drugs of all are legal. i dont know anyone who died or was really hurt to bad from steriods ect....but i hav 3 people in my immediate family that died from smoking and that is just my family....on this board nowdays for sum reason steriodlifestyle GREATLY !!!!!! overexagerated at  how bad it actually is....guess i dont understand bein on here if ur not into bodybuildin/powerliftin and bein juiced...   IMO and my life experience and bein in this game for 25 years and im still at it.

[Fatpanda]

i still say taken all these drugs n growing muscle and working out is still much less dangerous than smokin 3 packs a day and drinkin a 12 pack every nite....i really believe the 2 worst drugs of all are legal. i dont know anyone who died or was really hurt to bad from steriods ect....but i hav 3 people in my immediate family that died from smoking and that is just my family....on this board nowdays for sum reason steriodlifestyle GREATLY !!!!!! overexagerated at  how bad it actually is....guess i dont understand bein on here if ur not into bodybuildin/powerliftin and bein juiced...   IMO and my life experience and bein in this game for 25 years and im still at it.

i agree in regard to just steroids.

but not insulin and dnp.

i also fear that these new peptides will alter things they shouldn't, and this could lead to potential problems down the line, perhaps even passed to the next generation.

[no one]

i agree in regard to just steroids.

but not insulin and dnp.

i also fear that these new peptides will alter things they shouldn't, and this could lead to potential problems down the line, perhaps even passed to the next generation.

lol you talk like your opinion holds some weight, like your someone who should be listened to.

fuck you're delusional.

ahahahahahahahahahaha

[Spike]

lol you talk like your opinion holds some weight, like your someone who should be listened to.

fuck you're delusional.

ahahahahahahahahahaha

 

[kevinf]

lol you talk like your opinion holds some weight, like your someone who should be listened to.

fuck you're delusional.

ahahahahahahahahahaha

LMAO!!! brutal!
 

[caseyviator]

hehehehheh  too funny

[Man of Steel]

thats just ignorant

AHAHAAHAHAAH!!!!  Sure it is.....sure it is.

[Evo]

No..  where did I say That?

I'm natural...I have to say I guess I do have really good genetics even though growing up I never thought I was anything special....now I'm finding out anybody who looks like anything halfway decent is on something

To be Groinks size naturally is possible....I KNOW people who are his size/close to and have never trained seriously in their life, let alone took gear.

GH15s advice, whilst it is pretty much bang on, is nothing revolutionary or new.  Just a lot of people on here wouldn't have been told it so detailed/bluntly/repetitively before, ergo it has a little more impact.....

Lots of drugs + adequate training + plenty of food = SIZE.

Not rocket science is it......

[Fatpanda]

lol you talk like your opinion holds some weight, like your someone who should be listened to.

fuck you're delusional.

ahahahahahahahahahaha

[Jaime]

To be Groinks size naturally is possible....I KNOW people who are his size/close to and have never trained seriously in their life, let alone took gear.

GH15s advice, whilst it is pretty much bang on, is nothing revolutionary or new.  Just a lot of people on here wouldn't have been told it so detailed/bluntly/repetitively before, ergo it has a little more impact.....

Lots of drugs + adequate training + plenty of food = SIZE.

Not rocket science is it......

You know guys with 19 inch plus muscular arms who don't train seriously? I call bullshit on either your claims or your eyesight.

[Meso_z]

lol you talk like your opinion holds some weight, like your someone who should be listened to.

fuck you're delusional.

ahahahahahahahahahaha