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Pretty dumb thing to say.  Liberals still engaging in class warfare. 

Dem likens working with GOP on taxes to negotiating with 'terrorists'
By: CNN Congressional Producer Ted Barrett

(CNN) - Sen. Robert Menendez said Friday that if the Democratic-controlled Senate agrees to extend all of the Bush-era tax cuts it could be akin to acceding to terrorist demands. Republicans immediately blasted the New Jersey Democrat for his comparison.

Menendez asked at a news conference, "Does the majority not only have a responsibility to get something done but to get something done that makes sense for the country?"

"Do you allow yourself to be held hostage and get something done for the sake of getting something done, when in fact it might be perverse to the ultimate results? It's almost like the question of do you negotiate with terrorists?"

In a statement titled, "Menendez Compares GOP to Terrorists," the office of House Republican Whip Eric Cantor responded, " Um…No Senator, it is not. Not at all."

An aide to Menendez said the senator was talking about how the negotiations are proceeding, not about the Republicans personally.

"It's not surprising that some are eager to take a comment out of context in order to change the subject from the Republican millionaires-first plan," said spokesman Afshin Mohamadi. "The critical point for middle class Americans remains that Republicans have chosen to jeopardize tax cuts for every middle class family in order to guarantee an average tax cut of $104,000 for each millionaire."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/12/03/dem-likens-working-with-gop-on-taxes-to-negotiating-with-terrorists/#more-138122

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Re: Dem likens working with GOP on taxes to negotiating with 'terrorists'
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2010, 04:33:59 AM »
Liberal double standards.

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Re: Dem likens working with GOP on taxes to negotiating with 'terrorists'
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2010, 05:09:22 AM »
Strange, the Dems are just now all worked up over the tax cuts expiring. guess the last 4 years of control of congress don't count  ::) Political grand standing
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Re: Dem likens working with GOP on taxes to negotiating with 'terrorists'
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2010, 05:11:10 AM »
This is a good reminder of why they were defeated. 

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Re: Dem likens working with GOP on taxes to negotiating with 'terrorists'
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2010, 06:14:46 AM »
There is no class warfare in the US

The was is over and the wealthy have won

Since 1979 the top 10% have seen ~ 64% of all income growth

Personal and Corporate taxes have never been lower

By almost anyones estimate our country's financial situation is a trainwreck

somehow were still supposed to feel sorry for the upper 10% or upper 3% or upper 1%?


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Re: Dem likens working with GOP on taxes to negotiating with 'terrorists'
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2010, 06:23:06 AM »
LMAO straw how are taxes going to change that?

they ppl who take the risk are the ppl who are going to see the rewards...

again NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO RAISE TAXES ON ANYONE...

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Re: Dem likens working with GOP on taxes to negotiating with 'terrorists'
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2010, 06:33:40 AM »
There is no class warfare in the US

The was is over and the wealthy have won

Since 1979 the top 10% have seen ~ 64% of all income growth

Personal and Corporate taxes have never been lower

By almost anyones estimate our country's financial situation is a trainwreck

somehow were still supposed to feel sorry for the upper 10% or upper 3% or upper 1%?



Yeah, and guess who is continuing that battle on their behalf straw? 

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Re: Dem likens working with GOP on taxes to negotiating with 'terrorists'
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2010, 06:48:02 AM »
Yeah, and guess who is continuing that battle on their behalf straw? 

on behalf of the top 10% or top 1% ?

why the Republicans of course

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Re: Dem likens working with GOP on taxes to negotiating with 'terrorists'
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2010, 06:49:22 AM »
LMAO straw how are taxes going to change that?

the ppl who take the risk are the ppl who are going to see the rewards...

again NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO RAISE TAXES ON ANYONE...


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Re: Dem likens working with GOP on taxes to negotiating with 'terrorists'
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2010, 06:50:40 AM »
on behalf of the top 10% or top 1% ?

why the Republicans of course
taxes will do nothing to address the disproportionate growth in income...

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Re: Dem likens working with GOP on taxes to negotiating with 'terrorists'
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2010, 06:59:06 AM »
on behalf of the top 10% or top 1% ?

why the Republicans of course

Yeah, I gues the relevations by the FED mean nothing to you?  No wonder you are an obama nut - you are just clueless to reality.

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Re: Dem likens working with GOP on taxes to negotiating with 'terrorists'
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2010, 07:46:45 AM »
Does anyone remember the 1990's when the government choked out the captilist system with it's strident and draconian tax code

We're talking about raising marginal tax rates ~ 3%

back to the rates we had in the 1990's

people on the right are trying to make the the equivalent of a communist uprising


fucking hiliarious (if we weren't so fucked up that is)

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Re: Dem likens working with GOP on taxes to negotiating with 'terrorists'
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2010, 07:48:14 AM »
Does anyone remember the 1990's when the government choked out the captilist system with it's strident and draconian tax code

We're talking about raising marginal tax rates ~ 3%

back to the rates we had in the 1990's

people on the right are trying to make the the equivalent of a communist uprising


fucking hiliarious (if we weren't so fucked up that is)


Its not just income taxes - its capital gains, the death tax, etc. 

The estate tax going to $1 million exemption is CRIMINAL! 

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Re: Dem likens working with GOP on taxes to negotiating with 'terrorists'
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2010, 07:53:13 AM »
Its not just income taxes - its capital gains, the death tax, etc. 

The estate tax going to $1 million exemption is CRIMINAL!
 

you mean back to the way it was in the 1990's

OMG - surely it's a sign of the End Times !

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According to Bloomberg News, the Congressional Research Service (CRS) estimates that the Democratic majority's proposal of a $3.5 million exemption would subject just 0.25 percent of U.S. estates to any tax in 2011 and generate $18.1 billion in revenue. The Republicans' proposal of a $5 million exemption would involve only 0.14 percent of estates paying any tax and would generate $11.2 billion, according to the CRS, while the $1 million exclusion that will be in the tax code if Congress does nothing will affect 1.76 percent of estates and generate $34.4 billion in revenue.

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Re: Dem likens working with GOP on taxes to negotiating with 'terrorists'
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2010, 07:57:06 AM »
you mean back to the way it was in the 1990's

OMG - surely it's a sign of the End Times !
 

YES!

Family Farms, small businesses, etc are all subjectto thisan will have to be sold off to pay the taxes.  Its insane.   

 

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« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2010, 07:59:56 AM »
YES!

Family Farms, small businesses, etc are all subjectto thisan will have to be sold off to pay the taxes.  Its insane.   
 

the "family farm" claim is total bullshit and weathly peoeple have many ways around it (being the savvy lawyer - I assumed you knew that already)

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Re: Dem likens working with GOP on taxes to negotiating with 'terrorists'
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2010, 08:02:28 AM »
the "family farm" claim is total bullshit and weathly peoeple have many ways around it (being the savvy lawyer - I assumed you knew that already)

Yeah, buying expensive life insurance, setting up expensive and stringent irrevocable trusts,  keeping the property perpetually mortgaged to the hilt, etc etc. 


Yeah - great way to have to arrange ones' finances.   ::)  ::)

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Re: Dem likens working with GOP on taxes to negotiating with 'terrorists'
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2010, 08:04:29 AM »
Yeah, buying expensive life insurance, setting up expensive and stringent irrevocable trusts,  keeping the property perpetually mortgaged to the hilt, etc etc. 


Yeah - great way to have to arrange ones' finances.   ::)  ::)

you don't have to keep it perpetually mortgaged

and you know the "family farm" claim is utter bullshit

you really do swallow all the talking points hook, line and sinker

http://www.factcheck.org/article328.html

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Re: Dem likens working with GOP on taxes to negotiating with 'terrorists'
« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2010, 08:05:23 AM »
you don't have to keep it perpetually mortgaged

and you know the "family farm" claim is utter bullshit

you really do swallow all the talking points hook, line and sinker

http://www.factcheck.org/article328.html

It could be the family paint store - same thing. 

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Re: Dem likens working with GOP on taxes to negotiating with 'terrorists'
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2010, 08:07:31 AM »
It could be the family paint store - same thing

exactly

it's still bullshit

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Re: Dem likens working with GOP on taxes to negotiating with 'terrorists'
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2010, 08:23:58 AM »
why have you not addressed any one of my points straw? I can only assume its b/c you have no good response?

NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO RAISE TAXES ON ANYONE...

how is taxing more going to address the inequality in income growth that you cite as reasons for raising taxes?

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Re: Dem likens working with GOP on taxes to negotiating with 'terrorists'
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2010, 08:29:47 AM »
There is no class warfare in the US

The was is over and the wealthy have won

Since 1979 the top 10% have seen ~ 64% of all income growth

Personal and Corporate taxes have never been lower

By almost anyones estimate our country's financial situation is a trainwreck

somehow were still supposed to feel sorry for the upper 10% or upper 3% or upper 1%?



Who asked you to feel sorry for anyone? I don't begrudge anyone for making money and the government has no business deciding who should earn what.
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Re: Dem likens working with GOP on taxes to negotiating with 'terrorists'
« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2010, 08:39:03 AM »
Who asked you to feel sorry for anyone? I don't begrudge anyone for making money and the government has no business deciding who should earn what.

This is one of the things that makes me most upset about class warfare.  You have politicians in DC telling people that some number they pulled out of their rear end is "too much" money to earn without getting nailed by taxes. 

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« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2010, 08:46:34 AM »
This is one of the things that makes me most upset about class warfare.  You have politicians in DC telling people that some number they pulled out of their rear end is "too much" money to earn without getting nailed by taxes. 

Not to mention the fact that most of these same disgusting assholes in govt never worked a day in the lives, never provided a product or service subject to free market competition, etc. 


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Re: Dem likens working with GOP on taxes to negotiating with 'terrorists'
« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2010, 08:51:06 AM »
Not to mention the fact that most of these same disgusting assholes in govt never worked a day in the lives, never provided a product or service subject to free market competition, etc. 



Yep.  That's pretty much true of the president too. 

Those folks need to stop creating camps and focus on letting everyone who pays taxes keep more of their own money.