Mike Menterz's take on 1980

[Master Blaster]

OK, let's disregard the fact that your "response" to my post had nothing to do with what I posted.........

By saying "Mentzer was a deep thinker and left a bigger impact where it counts", are you trying to say he left a bigger impact in bodybuilding?

No man, the world stage. Mike will be remembered like Jesus someday.   

[dyslexic]

I should have just scanned it 

You probably would have mis-spelled less... (j/k) 

[OneMoreRep]

This thread is useless with, or without, Vince Basile.

Well said...

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[Captain Equipoise]

According to "MAXX"  that is "shallow success".

Hahaha, oh brother I would hate to see what he considers mild success then...

there's absolutely nothing Arnold doesn't have, the man is living life like a god.. he runs California, he has the skeleton from Terminator 2 in his house, he has the tank he served in Austria in, in his backyard... has around 1 billion dollars in money and assets...

what else is there to say.. oh yea he's banged any woman he's wanted to over the years, 3 healthy kids, owns restaurants, businesses, etc.

what else is there to do/gain in life !?! lol

[chaos]

Hahaha, oh brother I would hate to see what he considers mild success then...

there's absolutely nothing Arnold doesn't have, the man is living life like a god.. he runs California, he has the skeleton from Terminator 2 in his house, he has the tank he served in Austria in, in his backyard... has around 1 billion dollars in money and assets...

what else is there to say.. oh yea he's banged any woman he's wanted to over the years, 3 healthy kids, owns restaurants, businesses, etc.

what else is there to do/gain in life !?! lol

"MAXX" will have to come on here and tell us how a successful person becomes fulfilled in life, because apparently Arnold has no clue.

[hench]

yea and Mentzer left a bigger impact where it counts? Where exactly? Who outside bodybuilding knows his name?...

According to "MAXX"  that is "shallow success".

[NarcissisticDeity]

Hahaha, oh brother I would hate to see what he considers mild success then...

there's absolutely nothing Arnold doesn't have, the man is living life like a god.. he runs California, he has the skeleton from Terminator 2 in his house, he has the tank he served in Austria in, in his backyard... has around 1 billion dollars in money and assets...

what else is there to say.. oh yea he's banged any woman he's wanted to over the years, 3 healthy kids, owns restaurants, businesses, etc.

what else is there to do/gain in life !?! lol

ran California , his wealth is estimated at around $400M (  still ) for a type A personality there is always something else to accomplish , believe me Arnold isn't the content type , interesting to think what he's gonna do next.

[kiwiol]

Arnold is a god, the poster boy for bodybuilding forever and the epitome of the American dream.

Mentzer got owned, let it destroy him and has a mixed legacy.

There is no comparing the two.

[chaos]

Arnold is a god, the poster boy for bodybuilding forever and the epitome of the American dream.

Mentzer got owned, let it destroy him and has a mixed legacy.

There is no comparing the two.

According to "MAXX" Mentzer had a bigger "impact" where it counts!

Shows how much about men in thongs you know.

[johnny1]

In his Prime MM had a Excellent physique for the Era, in fact by the look of some of the bloated mess's that are around now it still is good.

[Captain Equipoise]

Arnold is a god, the poster boy for bodybuilding forever and the epitome of the American dream.

Mentzer got owned, let it destroy him and has a mixed legacy.

There is no comparing the two.

x2

I don't think there's a single person out there who would want to be Mentzer, I'll take Arnold every time!

[tbombz]

Arnold is a god, the poster boy for bodybuilding forever and the epitome of the American dream.

Mentzer got owned, let it destroy him and has a mixed legacy.

There is no comparing the two.

Arnold is and always has been self- interested with a lack of care for how his behaviors affect others.

[NarcissisticDeity]

In his Prime MM had a Excellent physique for the Era, in fact by the look of some of the bloated mess's that are around now it still is good.

He did and gave up to soon , could have accomplished much more in he bodybuilding world.

[kiwiol]

Arnold is and always has been self- interested with a lack of care for how his behaviors affect others.

Wasn't Mentzer or anyone else? Everyone wants fame, success, wealth, adoration etc. But most aren't prepared to do what it takes, which includes taking defeat in stride - something Mentzer couldn't do. Mike wanted the spotlight the same as Arnold and everyone, for the same reasons.

[~UN_$ung~]

In his Prime MM had a Excellent physique for the Era, in fact by the look of some of the bloated mess's that are around now it still is good.

i would be interest to know what kind of cycle mike was on in this picutre


the body is a little more advanced then the pumping iron era mid 70s guys,,..........but not at the point where growth came into play yet

[NarcissisticDeity]

Wasn't Mentzer or anyone else? Everyone wants fame, success, wealth, adoration etc. But most aren't prepared to do what it takes, which includes taking defeat in stride - something Mentzer couldn't do. Mike wanted the spotlight the same as Arnold and everyone, for the same reasons.

I agree that what separates a champion from a loser , Arnold got beat by Zane who he thought he utterly destroyed in 1968 , he said he even cried about the loss , he came back and was never beaten by Zane again. that's how it's done

[pellius]

i would be interest to know what kind of cycle mike was on in this picutre


the body is a little more advanced then the pumping iron era mid 70s guys,,..........but not at the point where growth came into play yet

All pre-exhaust, force reps, negatives -- twice a week training.

[tallgerman]

that's all just one white man's opinion

White man's? lol

[tallgerman]

Well one thing is sure is that flex wheeler was never near as good as arnold.

[tallgerman]

best would be to put mike pics next to arnold pics at the show!

no video for this seriously?

some haxker here get the 1980 vids!

[dyslexic]

I love that "legends" mag that just came out. It's cool looking at physiques that are possibley obtainable with much less dope than is required today.


AND... most all of those old fucks are still alive. Well... maybe not the ones from the early 1900's.

[PJim]

I don't see why everybody has to take sides, like "my bikes shinier than yours!". Arnold is a machevellian type guy with an annoyingly irresistable charm and Mike was a decent guy who had issues dealing with those types of people. Some people can give as good as they get, others think "what's the point, just ignore it" and some like Mike, let it become a big ball of resentment inside of them. I admire them both for the positive things they have contributed to bodybuilding. Arnold genuinely loves the "sport" and wants to be a part of it regardless and Mike was passionate about finding the most productive way to train. I'm sure if most of you would've met Mike you'd probably think he was hard to get along with, however, the same is probably true for Arnold...

[kiwiol]

I don't see why everybody has to take sides, like "my bikes shinier than yours!". Arnold is a machevellian type guy with an annoyingly irresistable charm and Mike was a decent guy who had issues dealing with those types of people. Some people can give as good as they get, others think "what's the point, just ignore it" and some like Mike, let it become a big ball of resentment inside of them. I admire them both for the positive things they have contributed to bodybuilding. Arnold genuinely loves the "sport" and wants to be a part of it regardless and Mike was passionate about finding the most productive way to train. I'm sure if most of you would've met Mike you'd probably think he was hard to get along with, however, the same is probably true for Arnold...

Good point

[~UN_$ung~]

I don't see why everybody has to take sides, like "my bikes shinier than yours!". Arnold is a machevellian type guy with an annoyingly irresistable charm and Mike was a decent guy who had issues dealing with those types of people. Some people can give as good as they get, others think "what's the point, just ignore it" and some like Mike, let it become a big ball of resentment inside of them. I admire them both for the positive things they have contributed to bodybuilding. Arnold genuinely loves the "sport" and wants to be a part of it regardless and Mike was passionate about finding the most productive way to train. I'm sure if most of you would've met Mike you'd probably think he was hard to get along with, however, the same is probably true for Arnold...

good post


except the part about arnold loving the sport.......he started out loving it........but later on it just became a stepping stone and he NEVER looked back.......and right now he couldnt give a SHIT about bodybuilding
 
he doesnt care about the sport, he doesnt support the sport............

please dont argue this point , i can site a dozen examples that prove this pretty soundly


for example, dont say he gives back by promoting the arnold classic...............he has NOTHING to do with the arnold classic...........he leases his name to jim lorimer once a year in return for hundreds hundreds of thousands of dollars.............he has no part in coordinating it, no involvment whatsoever

[PJim]

well, maybe so, but he has contributed positively at some point nonetheless. I'm sure Mike really loved bodybuilding aswell, I think Boyer Coe touched on this. anyhow, neither men are/were perfect, I think people have this idea that bodybuilders are all of a healthy, moral mind, forgetting that they are very egocentric, mixed up individuals. Arnold seems like the kind of guy who would befriend you for your business acumen, but be secretly porking your mrs on the reg whilst attempting to use subtlety to get your safe code out of her. Mike seemed like the kind of guy who would direct traffic naked whilst signalling UFO landings citing Ayn Rand.....oh wait a minute.