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Re: cam newton: let's just declare him the greatest living being of all time!
« Reply #25 on: December 06, 2010, 10:52:08 AM »
Newton will never go anywhere in the NFL. Vick is the only player in the NFL that can do what he does. I hope Cam Newton doesn't compare himself to Vick. Vick is a specimen. The media is making a bunch of hype on Newton.... but look at Auburn's schedule this year. I'm a SEC fan and Auburn had one of the easiest schedules.

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« Reply #26 on: December 06, 2010, 10:58:10 AM »
Yeah, I know nothing about the NCAA and how it is supposed to work.
I was a Div. I athlete.  You?

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« Reply #27 on: December 06, 2010, 11:04:38 AM »
Newton will never go anywhere in the NFL. Vick is the only player in the NFL that can do what he does. I hope Cam Newton doesn't compare himself to Vick. Vick is a specimen. The media is making a bunch of hype on Newton.... but look at Auburn's schedule this year. I'm a SEC fan and Auburn had one of the easiest schedules.

C'mon now.  You can't really say that there's any such thing as an 'easy' SEC schedule.  

Auburn has a gaping hole in the secondary, but unlike the Oregon teams back when little Joey Harrington was lighting shit up, this group of Ducks has more of a ground-and-pound mentality, sort of - they really like to get outside.  But as for stretching the field, that's not something they've shown a capacity for all season.  They haven't needed to, that's true, but when they've tried, they haven't exactly been good at it.  

As for the comparisons to Vick, well, this kid is quite likely a fraudster/liar/thief and Vick joked with his 'posse' as they electrocuted and drowned dogs they'd bred for entertainment purposes.  If he's got Vick-like speed, I haven't seen it, but he does always look pretty comfortable in the pocket, even when he knows he's got to make a move.  

Give him the Heisman, but don't waste a 1st-round pick on him unless you're hurting for a wide receiver who can run the occasional wildcat for you.

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« Reply #28 on: December 06, 2010, 11:06:36 AM »
Funny I want to see him try and cheat his way into memorizing an NFL playbook. You have to have some brains to be a good QB in the NFL. 

Weird that the majority of good quarterbacks are white.

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« Reply #29 on: December 06, 2010, 11:17:22 AM »
Yeah, I know nothing about the NCAA and how it is supposed to work.
I was a Div. I athlete.  You?
Yes, before I learned about the real business of the NCAA.  I was not a scholarship athlete.

Back then, we were just fighting for larger stipends in order to cover basics and for the right for athletes on scholarship to be able to earn as much as they could in the summertime.

It was - and still is - a myth (perpetrated by the NCAA though their mouthpiece, ESPN) that thousands and thousands of college athletes are receiving all sorts of unreasonable pay and benefits while in school.  Reality is that most kids on a typical D1 football team are barely scraping by, even those with full scholarships.  In other words, they're pretty much like everyone else on a work-study program at the university, only they have to work more.

It's complete and total bullshit that the kids can be franchised, marketed, and sold in whole or in part as a condition of their non-guaranteed scholarships and that the sale can continue in perpetuity without any further rights or compensation granted to the subject(s) thereof....while at the same time telling these athlete-students that they themselves do NOT have the right to do the same, in or out of the school's uniform, lest they be in violation of NCAA rules. 

Meanwhile, non-athlete students are NOT limited in any form as to how they may market themselves.  The NCAA is not some objective, 3rd-party institution whose sole purpose is to maintain 'integrity' and amateurism in college athletics.  No, it's a collection of college presidents whose job it is to make money, period.  And the less control the athletes have of their own images, then the more the NCAA gets to make without having to share it with the athletes.

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« Reply #30 on: December 06, 2010, 11:28:45 AM »
Tre, what you are saying and apparently promoting would erase the very meaning of the spirit and intent of "amateur".
Granted, the IOC has watered down the meaning of this term by allowing endorsements, etc.
But, where I went to school, at the time, tuition was $30,000 per year.  I was not on a full scholarship due to Title IX garbage.
The football team is allowed 71 (I believe at the time), which means many of your bench who will never play one down of football in their entire career just got a free $120,000 education.
What is wrong with sports other than baseball (specifically basketball and football) is that the NCAA has allowed the NFL and NBA to use the NCAA as its farm system.  This should never have happened.
I could go on and on about this subject.
Where it does get cloudy, and where I am undecided, is to your point regarding video games that utilize the name and likeness of an NCAA player.  Personally, in my opinion, the NCAA should have never entered into this contract, as they may have opened the door for litigation (last I checked they won). 

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« Reply #31 on: December 06, 2010, 12:52:04 PM »
yeah, i dont care about race.  he's an awesome player to watch.  he acted like an ass on the sideline.  and he did throw a stolen laptop out the window.

race doesn't play into it.  i dont care if a guy steals a computer, if he entertains me during auburn games.  It wasn't my laptop, after all.

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« Reply #32 on: December 06, 2010, 02:16:51 PM »
It wasn't my laptop, after all.

If it really was a Dell, then he did someone a favor by throwing it out a window. 

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« Reply #33 on: December 06, 2010, 02:21:26 PM »
Shut the fuck up, white people. 

MANY in the white media *hate* Cam Newton, which is the primary reason they're so pissed off that there was no press release about his being declared ineligible by Auburn until he was already reinstated by the BCS NCAA.  For weeks, they've been trying to steer the Heisman vote away from him by attempting to scare their peers as well as the public into thinking this was another Reggie Bush situation...."You don't want another Heisman vacated, do ya, Cletus?" 

Everything I know about cheating, I learned from white people in college.  Talk about having academic fraud down to a science.  Of course I would never out anyone, but while I understood why people did it - good undergrad GPA = stronger resumé for professional degree program - I didn't exactly understand how comfortable they all seemed with the dishonesty.  So, the fact that this guy might've submitted a purchased term paper - twice - doesn't surprise me at all, given the number of white people that he hung around. 

Regarding the father's solicitation of cash in exchange for his influencing where his kid would play, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY support the father.  He's 100% right to have done this and I hope they got paid well above the asking price. 

Fuck the NCAA and fuck you, too, if you support their corrupt bullshit (likely because you don't have a goddamn clue about how the system works). 

I have questions about the boy's character and leadership because of a play from the Georgia game.  As Newton was about to run out of bounds, the defender pulled up, not needing to apply a hit even though he could've.  Newton then inexplicably shoves the other kid right in the head just as he's stepping out.  Even though the other guy wasn't hurt by having his head snapped back a bit, it was a cheap shot and I don't like dirty players.  I don't know what else was going on that might've prompted his action there, but while it was just one play, I thought it was very telling.  If he lost the Heisman because of that, you wouldn't hear a peep out of me.  I'm hardcore, bitches.




Race has nothing to do with me knowing he is exactly what is wrong with college sports......pampered crybaby who has to run away when things don't go his way and a cheater.  He is a great athlete, but with his lame attitude, he will never be shit in the NFL.

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« Reply #34 on: December 06, 2010, 02:30:49 PM »
another NFL reject in a few years just like Jamarcuss....
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« Reply #35 on: December 06, 2010, 02:41:46 PM »
Tre, what you are saying and apparently promoting would erase the very meaning of the spirit and intent of "amateur".
Granted, the IOC has watered down the meaning of this term by allowing endorsements, etc.
But, where I went to school, at the time, tuition was $30,000 per year.  I was not on a full scholarship due to Title IX garbage.
The football team is allowed 71 (I believe at the time), which means many of your bench who will never play one down of football in their entire career just got a free $120,000 education.
What is wrong with sports other than baseball (specifically basketball and football) is that the NCAA has allowed the NFL and NBA to use the NCAA as its farm system.  This should never have happened.
I could go on and on about this subject.
Where it does get cloudy, and where I am undecided, is to your point regarding video games that utilize the name and likeness of an NCAA player.  Personally, in my opinion, the NCAA should have never entered into this contract, as they may have opened the door for litigation (last I checked they won). 

Yes, the IOC completely changed the game, largely in response to complaints from the U.S. about the state sponsorship of athletes in other countries.  The argument then (as it is now) is that we in the U.S. consume more Olympic 'stuff' than any other country, so our opinion has to count a lot more.  And to be honest, an Olympian who receives housing, food, car, clothing, etc. and whose only job is to train in order to 'beat the Americans' has a huge competitive advantage over athletes from other countries (not just ours) who have to work and beg money in order to be able to train for and travel to compete. 

And then there was the fact that everyone else but the athletes was cashing in bigtime on the Olympics.  When Olympians were no longer truly amateurs - a change that has happened in my lifetime - the definition changed everywhere. 

I'm pro-equal opportunity, but that's not what Title IX represents, despite what its proponents tried to sell people on.  The non-revenue women's programs were floating along nicely and the scholarship dollars - aside from football at the larger D1 schools - were fairly divided between men and women based on the level of PARTICIPATION at a school.  Title IX screwed things up by making it about ENROLLMENT so, the presidents colluded and decided it would be easier to simply collapse programs and pocket the money. 

But back to the main issue, if a kid can be branded with a Nike logo and pimped out every Saturday for the school and for the equipment company, then why doesn't that same kid have the right to get a Ford Mustang tattoo that he receives a payment for every time he appears on TV? 

Money is a factor for a majority of people when choosing a school.  So again, Cam is just like everyone else.

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« Reply #36 on: December 06, 2010, 02:47:11 PM »
If it really was a Dell, then he did someone a favor by throwing it out a window. 

i'm actually looking at getting a new laptop.  what flavor do you approve of?


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« Reply #38 on: December 06, 2010, 03:23:26 PM »
i'm actually looking at getting a new laptop.  what flavor do you approve of?
I swear by Toshiba. 


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« Reply #39 on: December 06, 2010, 05:27:59 PM »
How many black quaterbacks have won a superbowl?  1

It's a position that requires intelligence to be successful.  Cam is an awesome athlete, but none of these guys will ever win a superbowl.  Vick included.  (unless he's a back up)

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« Reply #40 on: December 06, 2010, 05:32:11 PM »
How many black quaterbacks have won a superbowl?  1

It's a position that requires intelligence to be successful.  Cam is an awesome athlete, but none of these guys will ever win a superbowl.  Vick included.  (unless he's a back up)

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« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2010, 05:34:37 PM »
 It's funny how nobody outside the US give a shit about the NFL.

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« Reply #42 on: December 06, 2010, 05:57:21 PM »
It's funny how nobody outside the US give a shit about the NFL.

You're actually wrong.  When I lived in Spain so many people would watch the games even with the disparate time change. I even found bars there that had games that were packed. Granted it's nothing like soccer (futbol).

 

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« Reply #43 on: December 06, 2010, 06:54:00 PM »
professional sports should be abolished, these useless losers should be made to get real jobs and play because they want to, not because they're getting 20,000,000 a year to do so, things got way out of control in the 60s 70's and 80's, all this money should be going towards science, medicine and space exploration not this garbage

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« Reply #44 on: December 07, 2010, 09:01:14 AM »
professional sports should be abolished, these useless losers should be made to get real jobs and play because they want to, not because they're getting 20,000,000 a year to do so, things got way out of control in the 60s 70's and 80's, all this money should be going towards science, medicine and space exploration not this garbage


Oh horseshit....it's a business just like any other.  Maybe we should abolish making movies while we are at it, or writing books, or music....  ::)

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« Reply #45 on: December 07, 2010, 09:34:08 AM »
Oh horseshit....it's a business just like any other.  Maybe we should abolish making movies while we are at it, or writing books, or music....  ::)

He is Canadian too.  :-\ :-\
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« Reply #46 on: December 07, 2010, 09:35:22 AM »
He is Canadian too.  :-\ :-\

Well, with the football they play, i can understand him wanting to ban it....  ;D

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« Reply #47 on: December 07, 2010, 09:39:46 AM »
Well, with the football they play, i can understand him wanting to ban it....  ;D

The endzones are fuckin huge.  :-\ :-\ That shit fuckin sucks.  >:( >:(
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