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Hold the brownies! Bill could limit bake sales
By MARY CLARE JALONICK, Associated Press
Mary Clare Jalonick, Associated Press
Fri Dec 3, 6:21 pm ET


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.WASHINGTON – Don't touch my brownies! A child nutrition bill on its way to President Barack Obama — and championed by the first lady — gives the government power to limit school bake sales and other fundraisers that health advocates say sometimes replace wholesome meals in the lunchroom.

Republicans, notably Sarah Palin, and public school organizations decry the bill as an unnecessary intrusion on a common practice often used to raise money.

"This could be a real train wreck for school districts," Lucy Gettman of the National School Boards Association said Friday, a day after the House cleared the bill. "The federal government should not be in the business of regulating this kind of activity at the local level."

The legislation, part of first lady Michelle Obama's campaign to stem childhood obesity, provides more meals at school for needy kids, including dinner, and directs the Agriculture Department to write guidelines to make those meals healthier. The legislation would apply to all foods sold in schools during regular class hours, including in the cafeteria line, vending machines and at fundraisers.

It wouldn't apply to after-hours events or concession stands at sports events.

Public health groups pushed for the language on fundraisers, which encourages the secretary of Agriculture to allow them only if they are infrequent. The language is broad enough that a president's administration could even ban bake sales, but Secretary Tom Vilsack signaled in a letter to House Education and Labor Committee Chairman George Miller, D-Calif., this week that he does not intend to do that. The USDA has a year to write rules that decide how frequent is infrequent.

Margo Wootan of the Center for Science in the Public Interest says the bill is aimed at curbing daily or weekly bake sales or pizza fundraisers that become a regular part of kids' lunchtime routines. She says selling junk food can easily be substituted with nonfood fundraisers.

"These fundraisers are happening all the time," Wootan said. "It's a pizza sale one day, doughnuts the next... It's endless. This is really about supporting parental choice. Most parents don't want their kids to use their lunch money to buy junk food. They expect they'll use their lunch money to buy a balanced school meal."

Not all see it that way.

Palin mocked the efforts last month by bringing a plate of cookies to a school speech in Pennsylvania. Rep. John Kline of Minnesota, the senior Republican on the House Education and Labor Committee, said the federal government "has really gone too far" when it is deciding when to hold bake sales.

Some parents say they are perplexed by what the new rules might allow.

In Seminole, Fla., the Seminole High Warhawks Marching Band's booster club held a bake sale to help send the band's 173 members to this year's Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade in New York. One of the bake sale's specialties: New York-style cheesecake, an homage to the destination they'd pursued for 10 years.

"Limiting bake sales is so narrow-minded," said Laura Shortway, whose 17-year-old daughter, Mallory, is a drummer in the band. "Having bake sales keeps these fundraisers community based, which is very appealing to the person making the purchase."

Several school districts and state education departments already have policies suggesting or enforcing limits on bake sales, both for nutritional reasons and to keep the events from competing for dollars against school cafeterias. In Connecticut, for instance, about 70 percent of the state's school districts have signed on to the state education department's voluntary guidelines encouraging healthy foods in place of high-sugar, high-fat options.

Under those rules, bake sales cannot be held on school grounds unless the items meet nutrition standards that specifically limit portion sizes, fat content, sodium and sugars. That two-ounce, low-fat granola bar? Probably OK, depending what's in it. But grandma's homemade oversized brownie with cream cheese frosting and chocolate chips inside? Probably not.

One loophole in Connecticut: The nutritional standards apply if the food is being sold at a bake sale, but not if it's being given away free, such as by a parent for a child's birthday.

"If a mom wants to send in cupcakes to celebrate St. Patrick's Day, that would not be subject to the state guidelines," said Thomas Murphy, a spokesman for the state's education department.

In New York City, a rule enacted in 2009 allows bake sales only once a month, and they must comply with nutritional standards and be part of a parent group fundraiser.

Wootan says she hopes the rules will prompt schools to try different options for fundraising.

"Schools are so used to doing the same fundraisers every year that they need a strong nudge to do something new," she says. "The most important rebuttal to all of these arguments is that schools can make money other ways — you don't have to harm kids health."

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Associated Press writer Stephanie Reitz contributed to this report from Hartford, Conn.



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Re: AP: Hold the brownies! Michelle Obama's Food Bill could limit bake sales
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2010, 03:54:45 PM »
it's about the issues :)

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Re: AP: Hold the brownies! Michelle Obama's Food Bill could limit bake sales
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2010, 03:56:06 PM »
Margo Wootan of the Center for Science in the Public Interest says the bill is aimed at curbing daily or weekly bake sales or pizza fundraisers that become a regular part of kids' lunchtime routines. She says selling junk food can easily be substituted with nonfood fundraisers.

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Re: AP: Hold the brownies! Michelle Obama's Food Bill could limit bake sales
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2010, 03:57:43 PM »
it's about the issues :)

Seems to me this is an issue, what business is it of the federal government, better yet where is their constitutional authority in the matter? They just arbitrarily decide that they get to decide what and how much you eat?

Your about as libertarian as Saul Alinsky ::)
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Re: AP: Hold the brownies! Michelle Obama's Food Bill could limit bake sales
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2010, 03:58:56 PM »
i'm a-okay with schools not selling shit carb/fat garbage to kids.

it's one thing if the parent is the one making the choice - but you expect a 3rd grader to pass up a plate of garbage?  nope.

So yes, I'm a-okay with CHILDREN being given limited choices.  I wouldn't be happy if my kid was drinking a hawaiian punch and eating a pile of brownies every day.

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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2010, 03:59:28 PM »
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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2010, 04:00:17 PM »
i'm a-okay with schools not selling shit carb/fat garbage to kids.

it's one thing if the parent is the one making the choice - but you expect a 3rd grader to pass up a plate of garbage?  nope.

So yes, I'm a-okay with CHILDREN being given limited choices.  I wouldn't be happy if my kid was drinking a hawaiian punch and eating a pile of brownies every day.

regulating fund raisers and pizza day?

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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2010, 04:01:13 PM »
i'm a-okay with schools not selling shit carb/fat garbage to kids.

it's one thing if the parent is the one making the choice - but you expect a 3rd grader to pass up a plate of garbage?  nope.

So yes, I'm a-okay with CHILDREN being given limited choices.  I wouldn't be happy if my kid was drinking a hawaiian punch and eating a pile of brownies every day.

Yeah how about taking a little personal responsibility and sending a lunch to school, that's what I have always done for my kid, has never been a problem
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Re: AP: Hold the brownies! Michelle Obama's Food Bill could limit bake sales
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2010, 04:03:30 PM »
240 - i am a libertarian.   ::)

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Re: AP: Hold the brownies! Michelle Obama's Food Bill could limit bake sales
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2010, 04:04:25 PM »
regulating fund raisers and pizza day?

Hell yes.   Cause I remember high school very well.  My first high school - a private catholic school - only had fairly healthy choices.  The worst we could possibly eat for lunch was dries.  no soda, no candy.

Then, my second high school was, of course, a public high school.  And everyone at my table would eat a bag of chips, 2 cookies, and a can of hawaiian punch every day.


So yeah, in the same way you'd never let a 1-year old choose if he wanted baby formula or chocolate milk all day... students just don't have the thought processes to do what is best for their bodies.


Adults - piss off.  let them eat whatever they want.  but allowing kids to eat shit all day, nope.  You multiply that times 40 million students and we have a major health crisis that you and I have to pay for, remember?  ;)  Remember it's self-serving that this whole generation doesn't grow up fat and diabetic.

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« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2010, 04:07:09 PM »
what about when they go home?

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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2010, 04:08:11 PM »
Hell yes.   Cause I remember high school very well.  My first high school - a private catholic school - only had fairly healthy choices.  The worst we could possibly eat for lunch was dries.  no soda, no candy.

Then, my second high school was, of course, a public high school.  And everyone at my table would eat a bag of chips, 2 cookies, and a can of hawaiian punch every day.


So yeah, in the same way you'd never let a 1-year old choose if he wanted baby formula or chocolate milk all day... students just don't have the thought processes to do what is best for their bodies.


Adults - piss off.  let them eat whatever they want.  but allowing kids to eat shit all day, nope.  You multiply that times 40 million students and we have a major health crisis that you and I have to pay for, remember?  ;)  Remember it's self-serving that this whole generation doesn't grow up fat and diabetic.

Again its the parents responsibility not the fucking government, what part of that don't you understand? Should we just surrender all our parenting responsibilities to the government? Maybe we can have a generation of the American version of the hitler youth.
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« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2010, 04:08:34 PM »
240 - i am a libertarian.   ::)

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« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2010, 04:11:26 PM »
Again its the parents responsibility not the fucking government, what part of that don't you understand? Should we just surrender all our parenting responsibilities to the government? Maybe we can have a generation of the American version of the hitler youth.

parents are not at school with the 8 year old who has to decide 2 cookies is enough.

Mind you, I do not care about the kids' health.  I do care about an entire generation who ain't exercising (thanks to web) growing up obese and crashing the healthcare system with their damn juvenile diabetes.  If every school in america only served lean meat and fruit/veggies, the amount of $ that you, me, and 33 has to pay in healthcare costs would be lower.  No debating that.

what about when they go home?

They can do whatever they want when they go home.  But they at least got 2 healthy meals of the day - which means 2/3 better chance we don't inherit the cost of their obese asses.

Another point is that the American education system is what, 37th worldwide?  You improve the nutrition and watch that shit improve as well.  How well could YOU function with 7 cookies in your gut, versus a chicken breast and carrots?

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« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2010, 04:12:46 PM »
333386 - I have visible abs and you do not   ;D

I am natural and bench 315 x 10 flat, 425 max, 315 x 7 incline, and own you in any lift. 

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« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2010, 04:14:37 PM »
I am natural and bench 315 x 10 flat, 425 max, 315 x 7 incline, and own you in any lift. 

You're strong, but anyone at 200 at your age with a gut who trains should have 315 x 10.  But shirtless, I have abs and veins and you do not :)  So if you wanna attack the messenger ("240 - i am a libertarian), then I have to defend myself pointing out my abs versus yours :)

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« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2010, 04:18:05 PM »
parents are not at school with the 8 year old who has to decide 2 cookies is enough.

Mind you, I do not care about the kids' health.  I do care about an entire generation who ain't exercising (thanks to web) growing up obese and crashing the healthcare system with their damn juvenile diabetes.  If every school in america only served lean meat and fruit/veggies, the amount of $ that you, me, and 33 has to pay in healthcare costs would be lower.  No debating that.

They can do whatever they want when they go home.  But they at least got 2 healthy meals of the day - which means 2/3 better chance we don't inherit the cost of their obese asses.

Another point is that the American education system is what, 37th worldwide?  You improve the nutrition and watch that shit improve as well.  How well could YOU function with 7 cookies in your gut, versus a chicken breast and carrots?

For fuck sake, I guess the parents teaching a child good eating habits is pointless lets just give up our parenting responsibilities ::). You know how healthcare costs would be? If the fucking government wasn't involved. Strange how everything started to go to shit after the HMO act. But no lets just bury our heads and pretend this fucking government created scheme is great and its really the people that are the problem.

Gee and why is the US educational system ranked so bad, gee I bet you can trace it back to FUCKING GOVERNMENT involvement.  My kid functions just fine because I send good food for her to eat at lunch and include healthy snacks as well.

I guess everyone else is just incompetent, maybe I should be running things.
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« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2010, 04:19:28 PM »
You're strong, but anyone at 200 at your age with a gut who trains should have 315 x 10.  But shirtless, I have abs and veins and you do not :)  So if you wanna attack the messenger ("240 - i am a libertarian), then I have to defend myself pointing out my abs versus yours :)

I have done 5 shows and can diet down and look great.   

You have ZERO chance of outlifting me. 

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« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2010, 04:26:23 PM »
For fuck sake, I guess the parents teaching a child good eating habits is pointless lets just give up our parenting responsibilities ::). You know how healthcare costs would be? If the fucking government wasn't involved. Strange how everything started to go to shit after the HMO act. But no lets just bury our heads and pretend this fucking government created scheme is great and its really the people that are the problem.

Gee and why is the US educational system ranked so bad, gee I bet you can trace it back to FUCKING GOVERNMENT involvement.  My kid functions just fine because I send good food for her to eat at lunch and include healthy snacks as well.

I guess everyone else is just incompetent, maybe I should be running things.

Dude, kids eat like shit because parents eat like shit.  You and I, and other getbiggers who count protein and carbs... we're the exception.

I dont expect a 8 year old to possess the mental capacity to choose between a cookie and an apple.  Do you?  I dont care how good parenting is - parents aren't in school with them!

I have done 5 shows and can diet down and look great.   

You have ZERO chance of outlifting me. 

LOL!  This is why I love you man.  You are a strong fcker.  Still, liberal ass kai pwned you in that show. 

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« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2010, 04:29:01 PM »
True.  But my first show was an npc show and I was clean and only 22 y/o 

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« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2010, 04:30:51 PM »
True.  But my first show was an npc show and I was clean and only 22 y/o 

Are you saying kai was probably a Gore voter?

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« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2010, 04:32:04 PM »
Are you saying kai was probably a Gore voter?

I have a pic w ronnie from that show 

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« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2010, 04:34:53 PM »
I have a pic w ronnie from that show 

no shit... thats awesome.  had he won O #1 at that point, or was he about to?  He was insane back then.  Props for competing, I will give you that.  Although I think the diuretics may have taken away your ability to judge talent (IE: baby girl)  ;)

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« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2010, 04:37:16 PM »
Never did any of that.  Ill scan it and post it during the week.

I was and have always been clean as a whistle. 

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« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2010, 04:38:23 PM »
Dude, kids eat like shit because parents eat like shit.  You and I, and other getbiggers who count protein and carbs... we're the exception.

I dont expect a 8 year old to possess the mental capacity to choose between a cookie and an apple.  Do you?  I dont care how good parenting is - parents aren't in school with them!

LOL!  This is why I love you man.  You are a strong fcker.  Still, liberal ass kai pwned you in that show. 

So tell me this then, why are schools serving crap? Who runs the school system? I'll give you 3 guess and the first 2 don't count.
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