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Re: Is this Obama's Waterloo with the left wing?
« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2010, 06:35:08 AM »
Nope.  Obama is alienating too much of his party that helped him get elected in 08.  People are not going to be as fired up to vote for him this time around.  Guaranteed.

Of course they aren't going to be as fired up to vote FOR him.

But

They WILL be MORE fired up to vote AGAINST a palin, won't they?  ;)

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Re: Is this Obama's Waterloo with the left wing?
« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2010, 06:37:33 AM »
Of course they aren't going to be as fired up to vote FOR him.

But

They WILL be MORE fired up to vote AGAINST a palin, won't they?  ;)

Not according to DU and HP.  They think Bama should change parties.

Maybe Sarah can run as a Dem and Bama a Repub? 

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Re: Is this Obama's Waterloo with the left wing?
« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2010, 07:24:37 AM »
Of course they aren't going to be as fired up to vote FOR him.

But

They WILL be MORE fired up to vote AGAINST a palin, won't they?  ;)

Hardly!!! If the unemployment remains around 10% (or gets worse), coupled with the international situation, the American people ain't re-electing Obama just for the sake of keeping Palin out of the White House (if she runs and is the last one standing in the GOP).

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Re: Is this Obama's Waterloo with the left wing?
« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2010, 07:32:35 AM »
Hardly!!! If the unemployment remains around 10% (or gets worse), coupled with the international situation, the American people ain't re-electing Obama just for the sake of keeping Palin out of the White House (if she runs and is the last one standing in the GOP).


 :D :D :D :D palin for pres.    the dumbing down of the repub. party

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Re: Is this Obama's Waterloo with the left wing?
« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2010, 07:33:50 AM »

 :D :D :D :D palin for pres.    the dumbing down of the repub. party

I thought you said it was already dumb as dirt by virtue of GWB and Dan Quayle?

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Re: Is this Obama's Waterloo with the left wing?
« Reply #30 on: December 08, 2010, 07:40:51 AM »

 :D :D :D :D palin for pres.    the dumbing down of the repub. party

The dumbing down of your party has been on display for two years.

Now, keep moving. You're holding up the food stamp line.

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Re: Is this Obama's Waterloo with the left wing?
« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2010, 07:47:12 AM »
The dumbing down of your party has been on display for two years.

Now, keep moving. You're holding up the food stamp line.

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Re: Is this Obama's Waterloo with the left wing?
« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2010, 07:48:45 AM »
The dumbing down of your party has been on display for two years.

Now, keep moving. You're holding up the food stamp line.

this coming from a guy that thinks the earth is flat ;D

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Re: Is this Obama's Waterloo with the left wing?
« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2010, 08:08:15 AM »
Rep. Michael Capuano: I 'May Or May Not' Support Obama Reelection (VIDEO)
The Huffington Post   |  Nick Wing First Posted: 12- 8-10 09:42 AM   |   Updated: 12- 8-10 10:56 AM

 
Email Comments 517 Rep. Michael Capuano (D-Mass.) expressed Tuesday what now seems to be widespread concern over the president's leadership and bargaining skills in the wake of a much-maligned tax cuts deal that would extend tax cuts for the wealthy. The congressman then chose not to deny the possibility that he could support a Democrat other than Obama going into 2012.

In an interview with Fox News in which he compared the recent negotiations process to a car sale, with Republicans being the salesmen and Obama the hapless buyer unwilling to get tough at the bargaining table, Capuano explained the 2012 landscape.

"I don't live in an ivory tower," Capuano said. "I have to pick the best amongst those people who are running, and it may or may not be President Barack Obama's reelection."

Capuano continued:

"Again, I was with him before the primaries the last time. At the moment I don't see that as a useful tool, but I would hope that the president re-finds his footing."

Rep. Joe Crowley (D-N.Y.) on Tuesday also addressed the notion that Obama's concession to the GOP on costly tax cuts for the top two percent of income earners could cause Democratic malcontents to rally around a prospective primary challenger, saying that it was "premature" to predict such an outcome, and that he had faith that the president would "rebound."

Earlier in the Capuano interview, the Massachusetts congressman explained the nature of his frustration with the tax cut deal and what it meant for his confidence in President Obama.

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Advertisement"Anybody who buys an automobile or a car, I would say I would not have President Obama representing me in those negotiations," Capuano said. "I want somebody who understands on occasion you have to get up and walk out of the room, and then you come back and you make a deal. You don't just take whatever deal is thrown at you from somebody who you don't agree with."

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Re: Is this Obama's Waterloo with the left wing?
« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2010, 08:43:48 AM »
this coming from a guy that thinks the earth is flat ;D

Wrong again!! Gubmint cheese to your left.

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Re: Is this Obama's Waterloo with the left wing?
« Reply #35 on: December 08, 2010, 08:44:22 AM »
Landrieu Blasts 'Obama-McConnell' Plan For Selling Out Black Voters
TPMDC ^ | Dec. 8, 2010 | Brian Beutler




Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-LA) blasted President Obama's tax cut compromise yesterday. She decried the "moral corruptness" of the idea of giving wealthy Americans a tax cut extension on the backs of poor and middle class workers.

To many, it came out of nowhere. After all, she voted for these tax cuts back in 2001, and, by her own admission, isn't really known for taking on progressive causes against the center and the right. But check out this portion of her criticisms of the plan, which went unreported.

"I represent a broad constituency of hard-working, poor families, many of whom are African American," Landrieu said. "The median net worth of African American families -- net worth, not income -- in this country today according to our Census is $5,000."


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Re: Is this Obama's Waterloo with the left wing?
« Reply #36 on: December 08, 2010, 08:54:03 AM »

 :D :D :D :D palin for pres.    the dumbing down of the repub. party

Your posts attacking the intelligence of others always makes me laugh given that you're most likely the dumbest person the politics board. Or do you not think there's a direct correlation between your second grade grammatical skills and your intelligence level?
 
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Re: Is this Obama's Waterloo with the left wing?
« Reply #37 on: December 08, 2010, 08:57:21 AM »
berzerkfairy nice to see you ;D

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Re: Is this Obama's Waterloo with the left wing?
« Reply #38 on: December 08, 2010, 09:51:49 AM »

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Re: Is this Obama's Waterloo with the left wing?
« Reply #39 on: December 08, 2010, 10:32:18 AM »

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Re: Is this Obama's Waterloo with the left wing?
« Reply #40 on: December 08, 2010, 10:52:55 AM »
Oh Obama this is why you will be a one termer.  You just don't stand up for the beliefs of your base.
Abandon every hope...

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Re: Is this Obama's Waterloo with the left wing?
« Reply #41 on: December 08, 2010, 10:55:25 AM »
Oh Obama this is why you will be a one termer.  You just don't stand up for the beliefs of your base.

You were played for a sucker - get over it.    bama is for goldman sack the treasury, JP Morgan, SEIU, BOA, etc, not KC,##, BF, 240, etc. 

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Re: Is this Obama's Waterloo with the left wing?
« Reply #42 on: December 08, 2010, 11:09:03 AM »
Liberals Try to Prevent Pelosi From Bringing Tax Bill to the Floor
By Chad Pergram
Created 2010-12-08 13:10



Fox has learned that Reps. Peter DeFazio (D-OR), Jim McDermott (D-WA) and Jay Inslee (D-WA) are crafting a letter to share with the House Democratic Caucus that would try to prevent the Speaker from bringing the tax bill to the floor.

They hope to get 60 signatures on their letter (which is still being drafted) and then force a vote in the caucus. DeFazio says he thinks that if a majority of House Democrats are against this compromise, they shouldn't bring it to the floor.

In other words, they are seeking a majority of the majority to move this and a senior House democratic source indicates they don't know if they have a majority of democrats, saying they haven't whipped this yet.

In an interview with Fox, DeFazio criticizes the president and says a majority of the House Democratic Caucus does not support the tax rate compromise. "There does not seem to be a majority of the Democrats who support the deal negotiated by Vice President Biden," DeFazio said. "So we want to have a record vote in the caucus on a resolution that says this resolution should not go to the floor without a majority of Democratic votes."

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Source URL: http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/12/08/liberals-try-prevent-pelosi-bringing-tax-bill-floor


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Re: Is this Obama's Waterloo with the left wing?
« Reply #43 on: December 08, 2010, 11:24:51 AM »
White House Privately Pushing Data Showing Bush Tax Cut Extension (for the rich) Politically Popular
 Source: Huffington Post


WASHINGTON -- Hoping to build support for the tax-cut deal that the president reached with Congressional Republicans, the White House has begun pressing Hill Democrats with polling data showing that extending the tax rates for the rich is politically popular.

A Senate aide sent over a copy of the email that an administration aide sent to offices on Wednesday morning. In it, the aide touts Gallup polling data showing that "Two-thirds of Americans (66%) favor extending the 2001/2003 tax cuts for all Americans for two years, and an identical number support extending unemployment benefits for the long-term unemployed."

That an administration would promote polling data backing its policy preferences is normally not an astounding revelation. But the private push of the Gallup study struck the Senate aide as depressing if not counter-productive. Even as the president was insisting that he thought an extension of rates for the wealthy is poor economics -- "I'm as opposed to the high-end tax cuts today as I've been for years," Obama said on Tuesday -- his aides were privately embracing the idea that extending the Bush tax cuts across the board was politically prudent.

"We are making the argument for them," said the Senate aide, who sent over the email on condition that it could not be reprinted. "The White House now wants us to defend extending the Bush tax cuts."

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/08/white-house-pr...


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Re: Is this Obama's Waterloo with the left wing?
« Reply #44 on: December 08, 2010, 11:41:59 AM »
White House Privately Pushing Data Showing Bush Tax Cut Extension (for the rich) Politically Popular
 Source: Huffington Post


WASHINGTON -- Hoping to build support for the tax-cut deal that the president reached with Congressional Republicans, the White House has begun pressing Hill Democrats with polling data showing that extending the tax rates for the rich is politically popular.

A Senate aide sent over a copy of the email that an administration aide sent to offices on Wednesday morning. In it, the aide touts Gallup polling data showing that "Two-thirds of Americans (66%) favor extending the 2001/2003 tax cuts for all Americans for two years, and an identical number support extending unemployment benefits for the long-term unemployed."

That an administration would promote polling data backing its policy preferences is normally not an astounding revelation. But the private push of the Gallup study struck the Senate aide as depressing if not counter-productive. Even as the president was insisting that he thought an extension of rates for the wealthy is poor economics -- "I'm as opposed to the high-end tax cuts today as I've been for years," Obama said on Tuesday -- his aides were privately embracing the idea that extending the Bush tax cuts across the board was politically prudent.

"We are making the argument for them," said the Senate aide, who sent over the email on condition that it could not be reprinted. "The White House now wants us to defend extending the Bush tax cuts."

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/08/white-house-pr...


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Re: Is this Obama's Waterloo with the left wing?
« Reply #47 on: December 08, 2010, 12:04:20 PM »
Oh the memories and how times have changed. 


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Re: Is this Obama's Waterloo with the left wing?
« Reply #48 on: December 08, 2010, 01:02:20 PM »
If the left really goes medieval on Obama, where do black voters stand on this one?

They think the Tea Party is racist? Wait until they get a load of the lunatic left, once they drop the PC gloves.

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Re: Is this Obama's Waterloo with the left wing?
« Reply #49 on: December 08, 2010, 01:09:22 PM »
If the left really goes medieval on Obama, where do black voters stand on this one?

They think the Tea Party is racist? Wait until they get a load of the lunatic left, once they drop the PC gloves.

NO MATTER WHAT, blacks will vote democrat.....NO MATTER WHAT......they have proven it over and over and over and over.....