GH15 was Dr Robert Kerr a freind or foe

[Schmoe Buster]

i can't verify that anyone took 1500 dianabol a day. i wasn't there. but i can verify that in Kerr's book, he states that some powerlifters found it necessary to take 1500 dianabol per day. i have the book, and that statement is in it.

1500 tabs or 1500mg

[Van_Bilderass]

1500 tabs or 1500mg

Gotta be tabs, 1500mg is nothing 

500mg of dbol per day during the last week before a powerlifting competition has been done by many. Billy Mimnaugh is one.

I know a guy who said he took 300 tabs one day only (1500mg) but it was hard on his stomach. He was probably telling the truth, he was nuts. He did one bodybuilding show and was up to 15 Anadrol a day at the end of prep. 

[hazbin]

1500 tabs or 1500mg

the book says 1500 tablets per day. i have it scanned on one of my computers but i can't find it. i do have the book and can scan it again. i never went over 6 generic dbol per day, and know guys who did 10 per day and they were bloated powerlifters. i think Kerr said the guy at 1500 came to him because he was pissing blood.

[hazbin]

Gotta be tabs, 1500mg is nothing 

500mg of dbol per day during the last week before a powerlifting competition has been done by many. Billy Mimnaugh is one.

I know a guy who said he took 300 tabs one day only (1500mg) but it was hard on his stomach. He was probably telling the truth, he was nuts. He did one bodybuilding show and was up to 15 Anadrol a day at the end of prep. 

unreal!!  no wonder i never got as big as i hoped to   mind you the medical CPS states that the dose for a kid with aplastic anemia is 6-8 anadrol per day.

[Schmoe Buster]

unreal!!  no wonder i never got as big as i hoped to   mind you the medical CPS states that the dose for a kid with aplastic anemia is 6-8 anadrol per day.

yeah you hear of aids patients being prescribed high doses of Anadrol for long periods, is it really that bad as its made out to be

I knew a bodybuilder who competed in the NPC who took 100 pink thai tabs per day for 3 months at a time, he's in his fifties now and retired but never had liver problems etc, still big also

[Van_Bilderass]

unreal!!  no wonder i never got as big as i hoped to   mind you the medical CPS states that the dose for a kid with aplastic anemia is 6-8 anadrol per day.

If you did say 100mg of dbol you wouldn't have grown much more taking 5x times that anyway. With Anadrol it's pretty much the same, "a little" gives you 90%+ of the effects and increasing further you may give you a little more, but nothing major. Tons of growth and insulin on the other hand could have advanced you a lot, if you didn't use them.

For powerlifting there's the CNS effect. Megadosing can amp you up.

[Disgusted]

unreal!!  no wonder i never got as big as i hoped to   mind you the medical CPS states that the dose for a kid with aplastic anemia is 6-8 anadrol per day.

Yes, no one has ever seemed to look at the recommended dose of Anadrol. The dangers of orals are definately blown out of proportion. At the same time I could never imagine taking more than one a day.

Here's a story for ya. I know a guy who back in the 90's used to go to Mentzer's seminars. I think he went in 94 and 96. Anyway, he said that at the end of the seminar there was some foreign guy who would talk about cycles. I'm guessing Mike didn't want to get into that end of it, but he knew enough to have someone there to cover the questions. Basically here is what these guys that Mike trained were taking. They would do Anadrol 8 per day 30 days on 30 days off. He said they would pick a long acting test and do 2000 mgs per week and then throw in an anabolic like EQ at 1500 mg per week. The oils were cycled at 8 weeks on and 4 weeks off I think not positive on that one.

[Van_Bilderass]

yeah you hear of aids patients being prescribed high doses of Anadrol for long periods, is it really that bad as its made out to be

I think it's genetic, how your liver handles it. If you're unlucky you'll end up with liver cysts. I thought Munzer's autopsy wasn't publicized but wiki has links to some document saying he had golf ball sized liver cysts and half of his liver was rotten or something. It's been documented and happens to some for sure.

[Schmoe Buster]

I think it's genetic, how your liver handles it. If you're unlucky you'll end up with liver cysts. I thought Munzer's autopsy wasn't publicized but wiki has links to some document saying he had golf ball sized liver cysts and half of his liver was rotten or something. It's been documented and happens to some for sure.

I think a lot of side effects of gear is genetic related, like gh15 says its all about genetic response, some guys can take high doses and be fine others not so

[StickStickly]

Let me be a little more specific for the comprehension impaired. Luke's demise was not steroid related. 

They were speculating that it was partially due to high protein intake. What was the real reason and how can t3 effect kidney function?

[Spike]

They were speculating that it was partially due to high protein intake. What was the real reason and how can t3 effect kidney function?

samn weigh high blood pressure can as well

increase in metabolites, increase in organ activity and enzyme release - but that is genetic based primarily as well

[Van_Bilderass]

samn weigh high blood pressure can as well

I would be very surprised if Luke didn't have high BP. I'm not aware of a T3/kidney problem connection.

[hazbin]

damn, i was all conservative with my drug intake as a bodybuilder, but now i'll drink 8-10 dozen beer a week. if i didn't give a shit about my health then like now i coulda really got huge.

[StickStickly]

samn weigh high blood pressure can as well

increase in metabolites, increase in organ activity and enzyme release - but that is genetic based primarily as well

I fucking hate t3... i was freaking out on 25mcgs and my trainer was like "hhmmmmm... i dunno man i got figure girls take 5 times that much and they are fine". t3 rebound is the worst.... i start fucking gagging just thinking about all the sleep apnea and bloat and pain ill have to go through doing that shit again.

[hazbin]

here it is  .    lol at the 'practical use'

[Van_Bilderass]

here it is  .    lol at the 'practical use'

I gotta say that Kerr is a complete bullshitter, if judged by that page.  

Bullshit stories. 1500 tabs day, yeah right.   Was he Steve Michalik's doctor? 

[Emmortal]

yeah you hear of aids patients being prescribed high doses of Anadrol for long periods, is it really that bad as its made out to be

I knew a bodybuilder who competed in the NPC who took 100 pink thai tabs per day for 3 months at a time, he's in his fifties now and retired but never had liver problems etc, still big also

This isn't because they need it, it's because they are on medicare and the doctors know they'll get paid for it so they give them higher doses of GH and whatever else.  None of the people actually take anywhere near that much of what they get prescribed.

[Disgusted]

They were speculating

Exactly

[Stavios]

Gotta be tabs, 1500mg is nothing 

500mg of dbol per day during the last week before a powerlifting competition has been done by many. Billy Mimnaugh is one.

I know a guy who said he took 300 tabs one day only (1500mg) but it was hard on his stomach. He was probably telling the truth, he was nuts. He did one bodybuilding show and was up to 15 Anadrol a day at the end of prep. 

are we talking about Candizzle here 

[Van_Bilderass]

are we talking about Candizzle here 

Nah, he ONLY used 600mg of Winstrol a day. Girly dosage, girly drug. 

[Stavios]

I would be very surprised if Luke didn't have high BP. I'm not aware of a T3/kidney problem connection.

from the color of his face, he must have had at least 180 systolic 

[Alex23]

I gotta say that Kerr is a complete bullshitter, if judged by that page. 

Bullshit stories. 1500 tabs day, yeah right.  Was he Steve Michalik's doctor? 

LOL!!!! Michalik was the most bitter dellusional of them all... well almost on par with Mentzer

his bullshit story in reader's digest like 15 years ago was a joke

[no one]

i can't verify that anyone took 1500 dianabol a day. i wasn't there. but i can verify that in Kerr's book, he states that some powerlifters found it necessary to take 1500 dianabol per day. i have the book, and that statement is in it.

wow. thats just wow. i know you know your stuff. i though it was a typo for sure. jezus.

[hazbin]

wow. thats just wow. i know you know your stuff. i though it was a typo for sure. jezus.

ya, that's freaky for sure. the powerlifter said i'm pissing blood from 15 dbol a day. the doc says 75 mg shouldn't make you piss blood. the lifter says no, not 15 tabs, 15 bottles!! 

a bottle of tylenol will kill you, a bottle of duiretics will kill you, even a bottle of pottasium will kill you (apparantly the most successful suicide pill available!!) but you can swallow a bottle of dbol with no long term effects.  yet that is the controlled substance.

[Stavios]

Hazbin bro, get back in shape the canadian nationals are in october next year you have more than enough time to compete with the great mutated Stavios