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Alleged leaker Bradley Manning: hero to Berkeley?
« on: December 09, 2010, 05:19:32 AM »
lol.  God Bless America.  lol . . . .

Alleged leaker Bradley Manning: hero to Berkeley?
Carolyn Jones, Chronicle Staff Writer
Wednesday, December 8, 2010

An Army private jailed for allegedly leaking sensitive military data is a hero and should be freed, according to a resolution under consideration by the Berkeley City Council.

The council is expected to vote Tuesday on whether to declare its support for Pfc. Bradley Manning, who's suspected of providing WikiLeaks with classified military documents and a video depicting an Army helicopter attack in Baghdad in which 11 civilians were killed.

Manning, 22, currently in the brig in Quantico, Va., faces 52 years in prison if convicted. Manning has not commented on his guilt or innocence.

"If he did what he's accused of doing, he's a patriot and should get a medal," said Bob Meola, the Berkeley peace and justice commissioner who authored the resolution. "I think the war criminals should be the ones prosecuted, not the whistle-blowers."

The proposed resolution originated from the same commission that declared the Marine Corps "unwanted intruders" in Berkeley in 2008. The council's ensuing approval - and reversal - ignited some of the city's most raucous protest in years and prompted more than 25,000 e-mails to City Hall.

This time, however, the commission's vote was not unanimous. The resolution passed on a 7-3 vote, and it's likely to be just as contentious when it meets the City Council.

Commissioner Thyme Siegel was one of the three "no" votes.

"We're just sitting here in Berkeley - we don't know that Afghani informants aren't being murdered because of these leaks," she said. "Bradley Manning sounds like a very sincere person, but I'm sorry, we really do have enemies, and it's not clear at all what the effects of these WikiLeaks are."

WikiLeaks is a website that has published thousands of classified documents about the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Manning allegedly provided WikiLeaks with secret data, including the 2007 "collateral murder" video of the Baghdad helicopter attack.

Berkeley's proposed resolution thanks Manning "for his courage in bringing the truth to the American people and the people of the world."

Army officials had no comment on Berkeley's resolution, but said that leaking classified data can endanger the lives of informants, provide useful information to the enemy and undermine the trust of those working with the military, according to Department of Defense spokesman Bob Mehal.

Manning might be a hero, but Berkeley should back off until the issues are sorted through on a national level, said peace and justice commissioner Jane Litman, who abstained from the Manning vote.

"I don't think we should call him a hero for something he hasn't even said he's done," she said. "Manning and the Obama administration both need to clarify their positions on this before we can take a stand."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/12/07/BAL91GNB87.DTL

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Re: Alleged leaker Bradley Manning: hero to Berkeley?
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2010, 05:20:48 AM »
Figures.

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Re: Alleged leaker Bradley Manning: hero to Berkeley?
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2010, 05:51:38 AM »
some getbiggers agreed with much of what the dude released, right 33?  ;)

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Re: Alleged leaker Bradley Manning: hero to Berkeley?
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2010, 06:02:54 AM »
some getbiggers agreed with much of what the dude released, right 33?  ;)

Good spin job 240.   No one sad manning is anything but a traitor.  Please show me one post of one person supporting hm.  If you cant, STFU. 

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Re: Alleged leaker Bradley Manning: hero to Berkeley?
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2010, 07:10:43 AM »
Good spin job 240.   No one sad manning is anything but a traitor.  Please show me one post of one person supporting hm.  If you cant, STFU. 

Ah, I see.  You supported much of the info that assange released - but you didn't like bradley?

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Re: Alleged leaker Bradley Manning: hero to Berkeley?
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2010, 07:14:13 AM »
Ah, I see.  You supported much of the info that assange released - but you didn't like bradley?

Yes. 

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Re: Alleged leaker Bradley Manning: hero to Berkeley?
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2010, 07:17:02 AM »
Yes. 

so you support the right of the media to publish anything they're handed - even if it puts nations at risk?

(I'm not hating - traditionally, this has always been the case -we NEVER prosecute media who leaks things.  Geraldo Rivera of FOX got a pass for releasing troop movements, and NYTimes never gets any legal sheeit for all the stuff they leaked during the bush years)

So this is your position?  Manning is a traitor, but assange is cool?

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Re: Alleged leaker Bradley Manning: hero to Berkeley?
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2010, 07:18:48 AM »
so you support the right of the media to publish anything they're handed - even if it puts nations at risk?

(I'm not hating - traditionally, this has always been the case -we NEVER prosecute media who leaks things.  Geraldo Rivera of FOX got a pass for releasing troop movements, and NYTimes never gets any legal sheeit for all the stuff they leaked during the bush years)

So this is your position?  Manning is a traitor, but assange is cool?

I dont blame Assange at all, he did what anone would do if handed that info.    Manning on the other hand is soldier and took the oath not to do what he did. 

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Re: Alleged leaker Bradley Manning: hero to Berkeley?
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2010, 07:28:39 AM »
I see no problem with a whistle blower releasing documents that show corruption or crimes perpetrated by the government.
But there is no indication that Manning was doing anything other than throwing a hissy fit and doing a massive document dump.
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Re: Alleged leaker Bradley Manning: hero to Berkeley?
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2010, 07:43:32 AM »
I dont blame Assange at all, he did what anone would do if handed that info.    Manning on the other hand is soldier and took the oath not to do what he did. 

IMO, the media DOES have a responsibility to not release things which can get people killed.

No, not everyone would do what he did. 

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Re: Alleged leaker Bradley Manning: hero to Berkeley?
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2010, 08:57:43 AM »
IMO, the media DOES have a responsibility to not release things which can get people killed.

No, not everyone would do what he did. 

Now it's a fucking problem? Where were you when the NY Times was publishing the Abu Ghraib photos which directly lead to Nicholas Berg and other American civilians being beheaded on video.  ::)

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Re: Alleged leaker Bradley Manning: hero to Berkeley?
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2011, 07:29:31 AM »
Boo freakin hoo.  Somebody get the Martian Man on this ASAP.  I'm sure he'll put a stop to this.   ::) 

Lawyer: Army private's quip let to clothing loss
By Associated Press
POSTED: 01:30 a.m. HST, Mar 06, 2011

WASHINGTON » The lawyer for a jailed Army private suspected of leaking classified U.S. documents to the WikiLeaks website says his client was stripped of all his clothing at night because he had made sarcastic comments about using underwear to commit suicide.

Pfc. Bradley Manning's civilian lawyer, David Coombs, said in a blog post Saturday that his client's clothing was taken away at nights after Manning remarked that if he wanted to harm himself he could do that with "the elastic waistband of his underwear or with his flip-flops."

Marine Corps officials had cited privacy rules Friday in not disclosing more about the Wednesday order that left Manning to sleep naked in his jail cell at the Quantico, Va. brig. His attorney has called the treatment degrading.

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/20110306_Lawyer_Army_privates_quip_let_to_clothing_loss.html

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Re: Alleged leaker Bradley Manning: hero to Berkeley?
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2011, 08:11:15 AM »
Now it's a fucking problem? Where were you when the NY Times was publishing the Abu Ghraib photos which directly lead to Nicholas Berg and other American civilians being beheaded on video.  ::)

???  Whoever released the Abu Ghirab photos belongs in jail too. 

I'm really touchy about sensitive stuff being released - and any reporter who will cover the stuff as well.  I condemn it all around.

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Re: Alleged leaker Bradley Manning: hero to Berkeley?
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2011, 10:31:36 AM »
Military Hearing Resumes in Manning Leak Case
Published December 17, 2011
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FORT MEADE, Md. -- The military court case against the young soldier blamed for the largest leak of classified material in American history resumed Saturday after an Army appeals court rejected a defense effort to remove the presiding officer.

Army Pfc. Bradley Manning was back in a military courtroom Saturday, his 24th birthday, to hear prosecutors begin presenting their case against him as the source for the WikiLeaks website's collection of U.S. military and diplomatic secrets.

Dec. 16, 2011: In this courtroom sketch, Army Pfc. Bradley Manning, second from left, sits as his attorney, David E. Coombs, speaks during a military hearing in Fort Meade, Md.

The purpose of the hearing is to determine whether prosecutors have enough evidence to bring Manning to trial. Manning's lawyers tried to oust Lt. Col. Paul Almanza as the presiding officer because of alleged bias, but an Army appeals court rejected their request late Friday.

Separately, lawyers for WikiLeaks and founder Julian Assange are asking the Army Court of Criminal Appeals to guarantee them two seats in the courtroom at Fort Meade.

Manning, a one-time intelligence analyst stationed in Baghdad, is accused of leaking hundreds of thousands of sensitive items including Iraq and Afghanistan war logs, State Department cables and a classified military video of a 2007 American helicopter attack in Iraq that killed 11 men, including a Reuters news photographer and his driver.

The Obama administration says the released information has threatened valuable military and diplomatic sources and strained America's relations with other governments.

Friday was Manning's first appearance in public after 19 months in detention. He appeared slight but serious in his Army camouflage fatigues and dark-rimmed glasses, taking notes during the proceedings and answering straightforwardly when called upon by Almanza.

Manning, a native of Crescent, Okla., is relying on a defense that will argue much of the classified information posed no risk.

In addition to claims of partiality, his lawyer, David Coombs, argued that Almanza wrongly denied the defense's request to call as witnesses the officials who marked as secret the material WikiLeaks later published. Instead, the officer accepted unsworn statements from those people, Coombs said.

Friday's tangling, however, centered primarily on Almanza's Justice Department job. "I don't believe I'm biased," Almanza said, explaining that his government work concerns child exploitation and obscenity. He said he hasn't talked about WikiLeaks or Manning with anyone in the department or FBI.

The Justice Department has a separate criminal investigation into Assange. A U.S. grand jury is weighing whether to indict Assange on espionage charges, even as he is in Britain fighting a Swedish request that he be extradited because of rape allegations.

Manning's hearing at this Army post outside Washington is open to the public, with limited seating. Assange's lawyer filed a request Friday with the Army appeals court seeking two guaranteed seats in the Fort Meade courtroom, one for the attorney representing the Wikileaks organization and the other for Assange's non-U.S. attorney.

Inside the courtroom, no civilian recording equipment is allowed. Instead of a judge, a presiding officer delivers a recommendation as to whether prosecutors have enough evidence to bring a suspect to trial. A military commander then makes the final decision.

The case has spawned an international support network of people who believe the U.S. government has gone too far in seeking to punish Manning, and a few dozen showed up outside Fort Meade on Friday to rally on his behalf.

"I plan to march all night tonight and bring as much attention as I can to put the entire country on notice that we have a hero who's standing trial for nothing more than telling the truth," said Dan Choi, a gay West Point graduate discharged from the military for revealing his sexual orientation.

He wore a bright orange "Bradley Manning Support Network" sticker on the lapel of his uniform jacket.
Others were less supportive.

"That man did something very wrong," said Mandie Stanley, a 19-year-old who lives on the Army post with her husband, a member of the Air Force. She spotted the protesters and decided to come out with a sign that said: "Don't leak classified information, stupid!"

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/12/17/defense-request-denied-for-change-in-manning-case/?test=latestnews

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Re: Alleged leaker Bradley Manning: hero to Berkeley?
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2011, 05:09:29 PM »
Why is Dan Choi even involved in this....
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Re: Alleged leaker Bradley Manning: hero to Berkeley?
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2011, 05:54:02 AM »
Bradley Manning's Cry For Help Included Sending Cross-Dressed Photos Of Himself To Superiors
Robert Johnson    | Dec. 18, 2011, 8:34 AM | 17 |
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It's been known for some time that Bradley Manning was so psychologically unstable that his psychologists suggested not allowing him access to weapons, or if he was given them, to have the bolt removed so they would not fire.
Why his access to classified material continued is unclear, and with his court appearance Friday that question rings more loudly than ever.
Raf Sanchez of The Telegraph reports that Manning's Fort Mead hearing included testimony that the Private sent pictures of himself dressed up as a woman to his superiors as proof of how emotionally unstable he really was, and nothing was done about it.

With the cross-dressing pictures sent to his immediate supervisor Master Sergeant Paul Watkins, Bradley confessed he was suffering from a gender identity issue. That plea for help never went any further up the chain of command.

Watkins only mentioned the incident after Manning sent thousands of classified documents to WikiLeaks.
The officer in command of Bradley's unit confessed his group was so undisciplined that the intelligence analysts played music and watched movies on the same computers they used to view classified intelligence.
It was the lax regulations that allowed Manning and his fellow soldiers to bring in CDs with music, games, and computer programs to their Sensitive Compartmentalized Information Facility. It was on one of those CDs that Manning downloaded the classified files.

About 15 US soldiers have so far been disciplined over Manning's actions.

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Re: Alleged leaker Bradley Manning: hero to Berkeley?
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2011, 09:36:31 AM »
insanity defense

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Re: Alleged leaker Bradley Manning: hero to Berkeley?
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2011, 10:50:46 AM »
insanity defense


Actually it will likely work.  This guy should have been Section 8 a long time ago.  Just a ticking timebomb
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Re: Alleged leaker Bradley Manning: hero to Berkeley?
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2011, 08:29:47 PM »
Wikileaks suspect Bradley Manning 'punched a female superior and was prone to tantrums'
Daily Mail ^ | Dec. 19, 2011 | Daily Mail Reporter
Posted on December 18, 2011 11:14:08 PM EST by Free ThinkerNY

The American soldier alleged to have leaked vast numbers of classified documents to Wikileaks was prone to tantrums and at one point struck a female superior, a court heard today.

Captain Casey Fulton, an Army intelligence officer who worked in the same secure facility as 24-year-old Bradley Manning, described a violent outburst in May 2010 at their secure office or SCIF (Sensitive Compartmentalized Information Facility).

Fulton said she ordered a derogatory report against Manning, who is charged with downloading hundreds of thousands of sensitive files from the military's classified network when he was a U.S. Army intelligence analyst in Iraq, and providing them to the anti-secrecy website.

The U.S. Army Captain began answering questions at a proceeding to determine whether there was sufficient evidence to court-martial Manning, who is accused of conducting the largest leak of classified documents in U.S. history.

Manning faces charges including aiding the enemy, which carries life imprisonment.

As it cross-examined prosecution witnesses on Sunday, the defence team continued to suggest that Manning should not have had access to classified documents, given his emotional state.

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Re: Alleged leaker Bradley Manning: hero to Berkeley?
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2011, 02:40:07 AM »

Actually it will likely work.  This guy should have been Section 8 a long time ago.  Just a ticking timebomb

Section 8 is welfare you retarded queer.

So, you're saying that Manning will beat the case because he should have been on welfare?

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Re: Alleged leaker Bradley Manning: hero to Berkeley?
« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2011, 06:33:06 AM »
Section 8 is welfare you retarded queer.

So, you're saying that Manning will beat the case because he should have been on welfare?


You're the one that's the fucking idiot.  Section 8 in the military means that you're mentally unfit..... ::)



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Re: Alleged leaker Bradley Manning: hero to Berkeley?
« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2012, 12:00:12 AM »
Judge refuses to dismiss Manning's WikiLeaks case

FORT MEADE, Maryland (AP) – A military judge refused on Wednesday to throw out the case against an Army private accused of providing reams of sensitive documents to Wikileaks in the biggest leak of government secrets in U.S. history.

Army Col. Denise Lind said she will rule Thursday on whether to dismiss any of the individual charges against Pfc. Bradley Manning, including the most serious count of aiding the enemy — which carries a maximum penalty of life in prison. Prosecutors argue that the leak helped al-Qaida and that Manning knew its members regularly viewed the anti-secrecy website.

Manning hasn't entered a plea to the charges. He also hasn't yet decided whether he will be tried by a judge or a jury. Lind scheduled Manning's trial for Sept. 21 through Oct. 12.

He is accused of sending hundreds of thousands of classified documents to WilkiLeaks, a website founded by Julian Assange, in late 2009 and early 2010.

Manning's lawyers had sought dismissal of all 22 charges, contending prosecutors had failed their duty to share information that could be helpful to the defense, a legal process called discovery.
Lind agreed that prosecutors had wrongly assumed the discovery rules didn't pertain to classified information but she found no evidence of prosecutorial misconduct, turning down the motion to throw out the case.

She heard arguments later on defense motions seeking dismissal of individual charges.

Defense attorney David Coombs said a conviction would require the government to show that Manning sent WikiLeaks the material with a "genuine evil intent" that it be seen by al-Qaida.

Manning's alleged motive, as he stated in his online chat logs with a confidant-turned-informant, was "I want people to see the truth."

Absent an evil intent, Coombs said sending intelligence information to WikiLeaks without authorization was no different than giving it to the The New York Times or The Washington Post— a punishable offense, perhaps, but not as serious a crime as the government alleges.

"What the government's really trying to say is, 'He should have known better,'" Coombs said.

He said it wouldn't be surprising if al-Qaida saw the material.

"Anyone can find anything if it's posted on the Internet. Everyone knows that," he said.

But prosecutor Capt. Joe Morrow said the government needs only to show that Manning knew that the enemy would see the material and that he sent it without authorization.

"I could have the purest motives in the world. But if do something knowingly and without proper authority in terms of interacting with the enemy, that's a violation," he said.

Lind also ruled Wednesday that Army prosecutors don't have to provide the defense with transcripts of federal grand jury testimony about the WikiLeaks disclosures.

Manning's lawyers were seeking transcripts from a federal investigation into whether Assange can be prosecuted for the disclosure of information that authorities say was provided by Manning. Lind said that while the FBI and the Army have jointly pursued a WikiLeaks investigation, military prosecutors have no authority to release FBI documents.

The 24-year-old Oklahoma native was ordered court-martialed after he was accused of downloading the documents, diplomatic cables and video clips, then sending them to WikiLeaks. He was working as an intelligence analyst in Baghdad when authorities say he copied classified material from government computers in late 2009 and early 2010.

The material WikiLeaks published included cockpit video of a 2007 U.S. Apache helicopter attack that killed a number of civilians, including a Reuters news photographer and his driver. The U.S. government says the civilian deaths were accidental.

Manning has been in pretrial confinement since he was charged in May 2010. His treatment at a Marine Corps base caused support for him to swell. The Quantico, Virginia, brig commander kept Manning confined 23 hours a day in a single-bed cell, citing safety and security concerns. For several days in March 2011, he was forced to sleep naked, purportedly for injury prevention, before he was issued a suicide-prevention smock.

Manning's supporters have raised funds to place posters in the Washington Metro subway system this week portraying him as a whistleblower, patriot and hero.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/military/story/2012-04-25/judge-manning-wikileaks/54538844/1

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Re: Alleged leaker Bradley Manning: hero to Berkeley?
« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2012, 11:27:18 AM »
Army Private Offers Guilty Plea in WikiLeaks Case
Thursday, 08 Nov 2012

The U.S. Army private charged with sending reams of government secrets to WikiLeaks is offering to plead guilty to some offenses.

Pfc. Bradley Manning's civilian defense attorney, David Coombs, revealed the offer Wednesday during a pretrial hearing at Fort Meade. The hearing continues Thursday.

Coombs says Manning isn't pleading guilty to the offenses charged by the government. Rather, he's offering to take responsibility for less serious offenses that are encapsulated within the charged crimes.

Even if the court accepts the offer, military prosecutors could still try to prove Manning guilty of the more serious charges. They include aiding the enemy, punishable by life imprisonment.

Coombs also says Manning has elected to be tried by a military judge, not a jury, at his trial in February.

http://www.newsmax.com/US/Mannning-WikiLeaks/2012/11/08/id/463319

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Re: Alleged leaker Bradley Manning: hero to Berkeley?
« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2012, 06:10:47 PM »
He should have been put in front of a firing squad.

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Re: Alleged leaker Bradley Manning: hero to Berkeley?
« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2012, 12:30:22 PM »
Sixteen years isn't long enough. 

Bradley Manning takes stand at military hearing
FORT MEADE, Md.

An Army private charged in the biggest security breach in U.S. history took the stand Thursday at a military hearing about what he contends was needlessly harsh treatment at a Marine Corps brig.

Pfc. Bradley Manning testified on the third day of a pretrial hearing at Fort Meade, outside Baltimore.

Wearing his dress uniform, he appeared nervous, stuttering over his words as he tried to answer questions from a defense attorney about his arrest in Baghdad in May 2010. He was testifying only about his arrest and confinement.

Seated in the witness booth, he swiveled back and forth and gestured with his hands as he described the layout of his confinement quarters overseas.

Manning is trying to avoid trial in the WikiLeaks case. He argues he was punished enough when he was locked up alone in a small cell for nearly nine months at a brig in Quantico, Va., and had to sleep naked for several nights.

The military contends the treatment was proper, given Manning's classification then as a maximum-security detainee who posed a risk of injury to himself or others.

Earlier Thursday, a military judge accepted the terms under which Manning would plead guilty to eight charges for sending classified documents to the secret-spilling WikiLeaks website.

Col. Denise Lind's ruling doesn't mean the pleas have been formally accepted. That could happen in December.

But Lind approved the language of the offenses to which Manning would admit.

She said those offenses carry a total maximum prison term of 16 years.

Manning made the offer as a way of accepting responsibility for the leak. Government officials have not said whether they would continue prosecuting him for the other 14 counts he faces, including aiding the enemy. That offense carries a maximum penalty of life in prison.

Under the proposal, Manning would admit to willfully sending the following material: a battlefield video file, some classified memos, more than 20 Iraq war logs, more than 20 Afghanistan war logs and other classified materials. He would also plead guilty to wrongfully storing classified information.

Meanwhile, Manning's lawyers are arguing that the charges against the soldier should be dismissed because of how he was treated while confined at Quantico.

Other prospective witnesses include a military psychiatrist who examined Manning at Quantico, and the former commander of the confinement facility at Fort Leavenworth, Kan. Manning was later moved there, re-evaluated and given a medium-security classification.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57556251/bradley-manning-takes-stand-at-military-hearing/