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Do UE Benefits Keep People From Working?
« on: December 09, 2010, 03:40:24 PM »
http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2010/12/07/good-question-do-benefits-keep-people-from-working/




MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) – If the Congress and President Barack Obama don’t act, unemployment benefits for 2 million Americans will run out by the holidays. So, the President wants to extend benefits. However, do unemployment benefits discourage the unemployed from finding a job?

“This is a tricky question,” said Hamline University Professor Jack Reardon. “Most people would love to get a job.”

However, simple economics would dictate that if someone can stay home and not work and get a check for $300 a week, they won’t take a job that pays them less than that, which is about $15,000 a year.

On wcco.com/jasonblog, DB wrote that his unemployed wife got a retail job, “but when she realized she would have to work 15 to 25 hours per week to just equal her unemployment,” she took a pass..

Jennifer Westphal admitted, “I looked a lot less fervently because I had benefits.” She ultimately found a job, but wonders, “If you deduct what I would have got from unemployment and what I pay for child care, my net gain is about $5 an hour. Sometimes, I wonder why I didn’t just stay home on the government dole.”

Many economists acknowledge that unemployment benefits have a slight affect on the length of time people stay unemployed. Of course, the availability of good jobs is the key factor.

“One of the benefits of this cushion is to enable any one of us that is out of work to be looking for the best job out there that will fit us. This is the benefit for all of us in the system. It’s not just about finding a job,” said Reardon.

There’s also a major benefit of having this unemployment insurance money circulating in the economy. Harvard University professor Raj Chetty prepared a research project showing that even in a stable economy, the benefits of having unemployed people spending their benefit money on bills and goods outweighs the potential disincentive towards finding a new job.

So, the question is about how much of cushion is just right to take care of people in a bad time.

“How comfortable should we make this cushion? If we make it too comfortable, people won’t get up and get out of the cushion,” noted Reardon. If it’s not comfortable enough, it hurts the overall economy, he added.

“We don’t know exactly the dimensions to make this cushion. I wish we did,” said Reardon.


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Re: Do UE Benefits Keep People From Working?
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2010, 03:42:28 PM »
People should be made to work, volunteer, or do something in return for this money. 

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Re: Do UE Benefits Keep People From Working?
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2010, 03:46:27 PM »
People should be made to work, volunteer, or do something in return for this money. 

Why? It gets taken out of your paychecks when you are working.  It makes no sense to make such a blanket statement like that.  While I do agree with the above article, the problem is demand for American workers, there is little reason for companies to be hiring with so much uncertainty going on right now.  It's a fine line to be walking.

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Re: Do UE Benefits Keep People From Working?
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2010, 03:47:34 PM »
People should be made to work, volunteer, or do something in return for this money. 

Dont people pay into UE when their working?

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Re: Do UE Benefits Keep People From Working?
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2010, 03:48:14 PM »
People should be made to work, volunteer, or do something in return for this money. 

civil economics aint your strong suit huh?

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Re: Do UE Benefits Keep People From Working?
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2010, 03:50:54 PM »
Dont people pay into UE when their working?

What they pay in is a fraction of the cost to what they are taking out.  In case you have not paid attention, which too often seems the case, states like California have had to borrow tens of billions of dollars from the federal of govt to cover these overages. 

We are freaking broke beyond repaid and sorry, if you are UE for 99 weeks, FU get a job doing something.  Enough is enough. 

UE is now turning into welfare. 

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Re: Do UE Benefits Keep People From Working?
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2010, 07:11:37 PM »
i know a few ppl who are on UE.  They aren't looking for jobs, or they plan on working under the table for the next year or so.

it pisses me off.  IMO they should get 2/3 pay for 2 months.

Then 50% pay for a month.
Then 40% pay for a month.
Then 30% pay for a month.

keep scaling it back - and I bet a lot more of them will magically find work.

It's so not fair that a person can get 18 months of paychecks for doing nothing.

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Re: Do UE Benefits Keep People From Working?
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2010, 07:17:43 PM »
Dont people pay into UE when their working?


It's State by State.  In my home State, the employer makes the entire contribution.

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Re: Do UE Benefits Keep People From Working?
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2010, 07:40:57 PM »
Good idea from 240.

Additionally, what is wrong after a certain period of time making people clean parks, trash, etc, 

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Re: Do UE Benefits Keep People From Working?
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2010, 07:42:05 PM »
Good idea from 240.

Additionally, what is wrong after a certain period of time making people clean parks, trash, etc, 

Yeah good luck with that, hell they can't even make people in prison do any work
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Re: Do UE Benefits Keep People From Working?
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2010, 03:29:49 AM »
I pay into the system and have never received a penny from it. Same goes with social security, medicaid and the other laundry lists of entitlements that I'm too white and and not poor enough to receive. By the time I will be old enough to collect social security chances are there will be no more social security. Is Uncle Sam going to cut me a check for the (most likely) $100,000+ I paid? Probably not. Will I launch a geriatric protest and participate in street riots? Nope. Will I decide to become a recipient of the billions of dollars in fraudulent claims the government gives away across the country? Probably not. Will I just end up working longer+ harder instead of being a pathetic, lowlife, blood sucking government mooch with no self respect? Yep. Option D prevails again.

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Re: Do UE Benefits Keep People From Working?
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2010, 03:59:24 AM »
UE is turning into welfare.