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Re: our country is in the shape it's in due to these 6 words?
« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2010, 08:17:55 PM »
"income tax" lol!  

You don't tax the "wealthy" through income taxes....the billionaires that people love to hate aren't punching the clock and picking up a paycheck!...lol

The 'old money' wealth don't have 'income.'  They don't earn a paycheck.  

They don't have jobs!  

They already have the fucking wealth...and have had it in their families for generations!

All you do by trying to tax the wealthy through "income" is tax the people who grew up WITHOUT "wealth," but worked their asses off to change that by becoming things like doctors...engineers....b y starting their own business and devoting the better part of a life making it grow, etc.

The real wealthy just sit back and take comfort in knowing that the idiot tax payers are working hard to make sure all those hard working "new money" doctors and entrepreneurs have to keep giving half their money back to the government before they even get the chance to see it....helping to make sure that they and their families are never able to become part of the "real" wealthy.  



Meanwhile the Paris Hiltons of the world are buying $15,000 handbags by the armful at the same sales tax rates as the dude at walmart buying that sweatshirt with the picture of a wolf on it...



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« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2010, 08:36:59 PM »
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lol, your so ignorant. here, do some reading: http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/69xx/doc6908/12-01-10PercentTaxCut.pdf

Hahaha, oh child....you weren't around in the 80's where Reagan used that premise to create over 20million new jobs "Reganomics". You and stickly keep sticking together, remember the last election then get back to me. As a matter of fact when you two finally get jobs, pay your own way THEN get back to me. LMAO!!

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« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2010, 08:37:53 PM »
Hahaha, oh child....you weren't around in the 80's where Reagan used that premise to create over 20million new jobs "Reganomics". You and stickly keep sticking together, remember the last election then get back to me. As a matter of fact when you two finally get jobs, pay your own way THEN get back to me. LMAO!!

Hey Coach, you still talking shit behind your clients backs?

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« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2010, 08:40:24 PM »
Heck I thought it was, "steroids are just the finishing touch"  my bad

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« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2010, 08:49:10 PM »
Hey Coach, you still talking shit behind your clients backs?

I don't do that, If I say it on here I've said it to them.

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« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2010, 08:52:11 PM »
I don't do that, If I say it on here I've said it to them.

Did you say anything to Jesse James?

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« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2010, 08:53:31 PM »
Did you say anything to Jesse James?

Nah, haven't seen him since he moved. We just email and or text.

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« Reply #32 on: December 10, 2010, 08:54:49 PM »
Hahaha, oh child....you weren't around in the 80's where Reagan used that premise to create over 20million new jobs "Reganomics". You and stickly keep sticking together, remember the last election then get back to me. As a matter of fact when you two finally get jobs, pay your own way THEN get back to me. LMAO!!

Reagan's tax policies pushed the federal budget into deficit and led to a significant increase in the National debt... more than tripling from 900 billion dollars to 2.8 trillion dollars during his presidency.  His second year in office the economy fell into a recession. The average wage of americans dropped throughout Reagans presidency, coupled with a shift in the tax burden off of the richest americans and onto the poor. yeah, great economic theory.

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« Reply #33 on: December 10, 2010, 08:58:07 PM »
Hahaha, oh child....you weren't around in the 80's where Reagan used that premise to create over 20million new jobs "Reganomics". You and stickly keep sticking together, remember the last election then get back to me. As a matter of fact when you two finally get jobs, pay your own way THEN get back to me. LMAO!!


most serious problem facing american tax payers: reagans 1986 tax reform act     

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-utl/arc-exec_summary-2006.pdf

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« Reply #34 on: December 10, 2010, 09:01:06 PM »
Hahaha, oh child....you weren't around in the 80's where Reagan used that premise to create over 20million new jobs "Reganomics". You and stickly keep sticking together, remember the last election then get back to me. As a matter of fact when you two finally get jobs, pay your own way THEN get back to me. LMAO!!





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« Reply #35 on: December 10, 2010, 09:02:26 PM »
Reagan's tax policies pushed the federal budget into deficit and led to a significant increase in the National debt... more than tripling from 900 billion dollars to 2.8 trillion dollars during his presidency.  His second year in office the economy fell into a recession. The average wage of americans dropped throughout Reagans presidency, coupled with a shift in the tax burden off of the richest americans and onto the poor. yeah, great economic theory.

You need to research just a little more on un-bias sites. Did you learn who reagan succeeded? Jimmy Carter ring a bell? only Obama might turn out to be a worse president than him.

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« Reply #36 on: December 10, 2010, 09:05:41 PM »
Hahaha, oh child....you weren't around in the 80's where Reagan used that premise to create over 20million new jobs "Reganomics". You and stickly keep sticking together, remember the last election then get back to me. As a matter of fact when you two finally get jobs, pay your own way THEN get back to me. LMAO!!

Nor does history support the rhetoric that the tax cuts will pay for themselves.  When the large tax cuts enacted in 1981 were being debated, many of the adherents of those tax cuts contended the tax cuts would more than pay for themselves.  Conversely, when marginal tax rates on high-income individuals were raised in 1990 and especially in 1993, the claim was made that these tax increases would damage the economy and that income tax receipts consequently would grow more slowly in the 1990s than in the 1980s.  In fact, income tax revenues hardly grew at all in the 1980s (after adjustment for inflation and increases in the size of the working-age population) and grew 13 times faster in the 1990s than in the 1980s

Conclusion

The notion that tax cuts can pay, or have paid, for themselves is refuted by the President’s Council of Economic Advisers both in its analysis of the 2001 tax cut and in the Economic Report of the President.  This notion also is contradicted by the abnormally low rate of revenue growth projected in the President’s budget.  And it is rebutted by the long-term budget projections in OMB’s Analytical Perspectives, which show permanent deficits.  Finally, history shows that the large reductions in income tax rates in 1981 were followed by abnormally slow growth in income tax receipts, while the increases in income-tax rates enacted in 1990 and 1993 were followed by sizeable growth in income-tax receipts.  Leading economists are warning that the tax cuts the Administration is proposing will lose substantial revenue and damage the nation’s long-term fiscal position.  The idea that tax cuts can pay for themselves sounds too good to be true because it is too good to be true.


http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=119

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« Reply #37 on: December 10, 2010, 09:07:36 PM »
Passing these tax cuts will worsen the long-term budget outlook, adding to the nation’s projected chronic deficits. This fiscal deterioration will reduce the capacity of the government to finance Social Security and Medicare benefits as well as investments in schools, health, infrastructure, and basic research. Moreover, the proposed tax cuts will generate further inequalities in after-tax income

http://www.epi.org/publications/entry/econ_stmt_2003/

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« Reply #39 on: December 10, 2010, 09:22:53 PM »
so i'm shooting the breeze at the gym with this dude and we get to talking about politics and what's happening in the u.s. for like years now and he says to me " the problems with our country i can sum up in 6 words!" the 6 words he says?

"unchecked and rewarded stupidity and greed".

pretty simple yet i thought pretty damn bullseye, maybe too simplistic, but it's a good start in the conversation.

no,,

your country is in the deep shit it will be in the next forseen future due to this 6 words,,


britney spears,, puff daddy,, justin briber

in no particular order they ruined your country socially,,

you can not sing or name a song written by any one of them,,but i can assure  you they will all have sex porn tapes out  because this generation is talentless fucked up generation NOTHINGNESS,,actually they mostr liekly already have sex tapes,,

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« Reply #40 on: December 10, 2010, 09:24:35 PM »
You need to research just a little more on un-bias sites. Did you learn who reagan succeeded? Jimmy Carter ring a bell? only Obama might turn out to be a worse president than him.
I don't see how a website that is run by contributions of public money and knowledge is biased coach. You respond to this with the heritage foundation? A known conservative think tank (i know paradox huh). Lets try not to be soo close minded. Are you going to start quoting conservapedia as a neutral medium now?

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« Reply #41 on: December 10, 2010, 09:30:30 PM »
I don't see how a website that is run by contributions of public money and knowledge is biased coach. You respond to this with the heritage foundation? A known conservative think tank (i know paradox huh). Lets try not to be soo close minded. Are you going to start quoting conservapedia as a neutral medium now?

Ok, fair enough. Reagan's record speaks for itself.

Here's just a little.....


1. President Reagan’s economic policies stimulated the economy, creating 17 million new jobs. One-fourth of the new jobs were created in 68 consecutive months. Black unemployment was cut in half.

2. We were given incentives to save our money, to work, and to invest because of Reagan’s tax reforms.

3. The inflation rate decreased to less than 4.4%. Family income rose 12%.

4. We are now experiencing the longest and strongest peacetime prosperity in the history of the nation.

5. We are experiencing the best peacetime relationship with the Soviet Union in our history. We have also seen the withdrawal of Soviet troops from Afghanistan.

6. We are now keeping the peace. We drew the line in Grenada, Libya, Afghanistan, and the Persian Gulf, and no countries have fallen to communism during the Reagan era.

7. The U.S. military was refurbished and strengthened.

8. There is now a call for prayer in schools. The Republican adminstration has been lobbying to give this deserved religious freedom.

9. We have seen a return to traditional values. Under Reagan, we have seen a cut in federal funding of abortions; emphasis on a strong family unit; and the development of family-oriented public policy.

10. Educational leaders are now working to sustain moral values and reestablish a clear understanding of right and wrong. The need for values in the curriculum has been trumpeted by the Reagan administration.

11. People from other nations are flocking to America to follow our example. Our principles of civil and economic freedom are now being copied all over the world.

America Just Prior to the Reagan Administration

1. Seven million Americans were unemployed.

2. We were told to live on less, to buckle our belts and to prepare for scarcity.

3. Americans went through two of the worst years of inflation in 60 years. There was a 13% inflation rate. Family income dropped and we had the highest tax bill in our history.

4. We were on the verge of a major recession.

5. With our cold wars during the ’70s, we inspired our enemies not to be afraid of us. The Soviets refused to come to the bargaining table. Cultural exchanges between the U.S. and the U.S.S.R. came to a halt.

6. Disarmament was considered a noble goal. We did not know where to draw the line in our negotiations with the Soviets. Three countries fell to communism under the Carter administration: Benin (1977), Nicaragua (1979), and Zimbabwe (1980).

7. Guns and tanks that did not even work were being sent to battle.

8. Young Americans were not allowed to pray in school … even though Congress, every state house, and the Supreme Court begins business with prayer.

9. Progressive values became fashionable. Social policies emulated the values of a small, vocal minority.

10. Education did not sustain moral values. Educational curricula began to promote “alternative lifesyles,” such as homosexuality.

11. America wore a “kick me” sign on its back. We lost our edge in technology and in global markets due to excessive government regulation, and high taxes which devoured capital.

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« Reply #42 on: December 10, 2010, 09:38:48 PM »
lmao @ gh15, classic post.

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« Reply #43 on: December 10, 2010, 09:43:23 PM »
lmao @ gh15, classic post.

Man, with as many people that are on here from different countries around the world, GH15 is worst at spelling I've ever seen..........which makes me think he ain't real.

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« Reply #44 on: December 10, 2010, 09:47:58 PM »
Ok, fair enough. Reagan's record speaks for itself.

Here's just a little.....


1. President Reagan’s economic policies stimulated the economy, creating 17 million new jobs. One-fourth of the new jobs were created in 68 consecutive months. Black unemployment was cut in half.

2. We were given incentives to save our money, to work, and to invest because of Reagan’s tax reforms.

3. The inflation rate decreased to less than 4.4%. Family income rose 12%.

4. We are now experiencing the longest and strongest peacetime prosperity in the history of the nation.

5. We are experiencing the best peacetime relationship with the Soviet Union in our history. We have also seen the withdrawal of Soviet troops from Afghanistan.

6. We are now keeping the peace. We drew the line in Grenada, Libya, Afghanistan, and the Persian Gulf, and no countries have fallen to communism during the Reagan era.

7. The U.S. military was refurbished and strengthened.

8. There is now a call for prayer in schools. The Republican adminstration has been lobbying to give this deserved religious freedom.

9. We have seen a return to traditional values. Under Reagan, we have seen a cut in federal funding of abortions; emphasis on a strong family unit; and the development of family-oriented public policy.

10. Educational leaders are now working to sustain moral values and reestablish a clear understanding of right and wrong. The need for values in the curriculum has been trumpeted by the Reagan administration.

11. People from other nations are flocking to America to follow our example. Our principles of civil and economic freedom are now being copied all over the world.

America Just Prior to the Reagan Administration

1. Seven million Americans were unemployed.

2. We were told to live on less, to buckle our belts and to prepare for scarcity.

3. Americans went through two of the worst years of inflation in 60 years. There was a 13% inflation rate. Family income dropped and we had the highest tax bill in our history.

4. We were on the verge of a major recession.

5. With our cold wars during the ’70s, we inspired our enemies not to be afraid of us. The Soviets refused to come to the bargaining table. Cultural exchanges between the U.S. and the U.S.S.R. came to a halt.

6. Disarmament was considered a noble goal. We did not know where to draw the line in our negotiations with the Soviets. Three countries fell to communism under the Carter administration: Benin (1977), Nicaragua (1979), and Zimbabwe (1980).

7. Guns and tanks that did not even work were being sent to battle.

8. Young Americans were not allowed to pray in school … even though Congress, every state house, and the Supreme Court begins business with prayer.

9. Progressive values became fashionable. Social policies emulated the values of a small, vocal minority.

10. Education did not sustain moral values. Educational curricula began to promote “alternative lifesyles,” such as homosexuality.

11. America wore a “kick me” sign on its back. We lost our edge in technology and in global markets due to excessive government regulation, and high taxes which devoured capital.

Ok... where did this come from... You know the left is criticizing obama just as hard as the left but not for the same reasons. People get mad when we get a moderate president and get mad when they get an extremist president. Regan didn't defeat communism. He didn't outspend the soviets causing their government to collapse. His fund cutting frenzies brought back diseases like tuberculosis from near extinction. And yes coach, federal government GREW under Regan. I know how you republicans hate large federal government. It Shrunk under Clinton if im not mistaken. Your list is fine and dandy. Thought id make one countering yours. You are missing the point though. This isn't an attack on an individual. It is an attack on ideas. I don't know why you got all butt hurt and felt the need to raise the GOP's "daddy" back up on a pedestal.

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« Reply #45 on: December 10, 2010, 09:55:27 PM »
I must say I am relieved. I was sure the six words were going to be, "Go fuck yourself you smelly convict."
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« Reply #46 on: December 10, 2010, 10:00:28 PM »
Man, with as many people that are on here from different countries around the world, GH15 is worst at spelling I've ever seen..........which makes me think he ain't real.

how's my spelling now? better? maybe you'd like to write some german for me? thought so...

i like gramatical errors,,makes life more interesting,,

remember we speak and write AMERICAN,,this is not english,, english is LONG LONG GONE,, the way i write is understood by everyone because its american,, the new language promoted by generation nothingness,,

hope my american is better this time


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« Reply #47 on: December 10, 2010, 10:09:56 PM »
how's my spelling now? better? maybe you'd like to write some german for me? thought so...

i like gramatical errors,,makes life more interesting,,

remember we speak and write AMERICAN,,this is not english,, english is LONG LONG GONE,, the way i write is understood by everyone because its american,, the new language promoted by generation nothingness,,

hope my american is better this time


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"hefeweizen" that's the only word I know in German bra!

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« Reply #48 on: December 10, 2010, 10:17:56 PM »
how's my spelling now? better? maybe you'd like to write some german for me? thought so...

i like gramatical errors,,makes life more interesting,,

remember we speak and write AMERICAN,,this is not english,, english is LONG LONG GONE,, the way i write is understood by everyone because its american,, the new language promoted by generation nothingness,,

hope my american is better this time


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« Reply #49 on: December 10, 2010, 10:27:09 PM »
remember we speak and write AMERICAN,,this is not english,, english is LONG LONG GONE,, the way i write is understood by everyone because its american,, the new language promoted by generation nothingness,,

The next generation americans are perfectly programmed to be consumers.