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Re: our country is in the shape it's in due to these 6 words?
« Reply #50 on: December 11, 2010, 03:15:37 AM »
  if the government didnt "confiscate" our money, we would not have a military, police, courts system and prisons, fire fighters, roads, schools, and you would probably be forced to live like a cave man or work 12 hour days, making barely enough to survive in some wretched factory somewhere.  and who should pay for government ? well, where is all the money at? not in the hands of the middle and lower class! the money is in the hands of the major corporations, and they should be the ones paying the majority of the taxes as well.

And if it was limited to that our tax rate would be 10% across the board. Do I need to list all the giveaway programs, use less departments and entitlements? Do we really need tax payer funding to study the effects of Bovine flatulence on the environment? Do we really need to have a National Endowment of Arts where welder, a truck driver and a cashier help fund so some artist can submerge a crucifix in urine and call it art. I'm all for art and someone wanting to express themselves but do it on your own dime. Do you know that before the Republicans put a stop to it every member of congress had a bucket of ice and a copy of USA Today left at their door at a six figure cost to tax payers. And although it's been reduced, the Capital still employs elevator operators though manual elevator have never existed in you life time. Some feel it is unseemly that an esteem Congressman or Senator should actually have to push the damn button himself.

You seem to be utterly clueless as to the amount of waste in Government. Just remember, you always spend your own money much more wisely and frugally than you would spend other people's money.   

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Re: our country is in the shape it's in due to these 6 words?
« Reply #51 on: December 11, 2010, 03:26:09 AM »
Reagan's tax policies pushed the federal budget into deficit and led to a significant increase in the National debt... more than tripling from 900 billion dollars to 2.8 trillion dollars during his presidency.  His second year in office the economy fell into a recession. The average wage of americans dropped throughout Reagans presidency, coupled with a shift in the tax burden off of the richest americans and onto the poor. yeah, great economic theory.

When it comes to economics you are so staggeringly ignorant.

Yes, when Reagan lower taxes the deficit did increase but what you fail to realize was that when taxes were lowered government revenue INCREASED! The government took in more more money because economic activity increased when people got to keep more of what they earned to save, spend or invest. But it didn't matter that revenue increased because the government simply spent more. They always just spend more.

Listen to me closely my juiced up bisexual: The reason we have a deficit is not because the government doesn't take away enough of our money. The reason we have a deficit is because the government SPENDS too much. They can get away with it because there is no immediate consequences and it's not their money. It isn't coming out of their pockets. When you or I come up short at the end of the month we have to cut back, make adjustments. No more testosterona for you this week. Not the government. They simply confiscate more of our wealth and/or print more money.

Get an education FFS!

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Re: our country is in the shape it's in due to these 6 words?
« Reply #52 on: December 11, 2010, 03:32:06 AM »
Man, with as many people that are on here from different countries around the world, GH15 is worst at spelling I've ever seen..........which makes me think he ain't real.

u ,,,, hvnt fgure out hormonalze fella who eat sueshee,,,,, jamaca platains,,,,and chineeese with dianabolona does it on purrpuss.

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Re: our country is in the shape it's in due to these 6 words?
« Reply #53 on: December 11, 2010, 03:33:38 AM »
how's my spelling now? better? maybe you'd like to write some german for me? thought so...

i like gramatical errors,,makes life more interesting,,

remember we speak and write AMERICAN,,this is not english,, english is LONG LONG GONE,, the way i write is understood by everyone because its american,, the new language promoted by generation nothingness,,

hope my american is better this time


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Say something in German so that Dr. Chimps will stop replying "Hi Sev" to your posts.

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Re: our country is in the shape it's in due to these 6 words?
« Reply #54 on: December 11, 2010, 03:41:00 AM »
"hefeweizen" that's the only word I know in German bra!

It's "BRAH"! Not "bra". We're very touchy about this here in the islands.


How many times do I have to point this out? Let me spell it out once and for all for everybody.

BRA


BRO


BRAH

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Re: our country is in the shape it's in due to these 6 words?
« Reply #55 on: December 11, 2010, 03:41:54 AM »

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Re: our country is in the shape it's in due to these 6 words?
« Reply #56 on: December 11, 2010, 06:05:00 AM »
damn, alot of reponses to my posting already! this statement this person made to me "unchecked and rewarded stupidity and greed" he explained wasn't just about politics though, it was about everything in our society. entertainment, religion, people's mores and attitudes, etcetera, etcetera.

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Re: our country is in the shape it's in due to these 6 words?
« Reply #57 on: December 11, 2010, 06:18:46 AM »
Pellius and Doison are the only two people who posted in this entire thread that have an obvious command over the subject matter that are talking about. Makaveli and Coach also had some good points. The rest of you are fucking morons who know less than nothing about economics, American History and the way taxation works.

 

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Re: our country is in the shape it's in due to these 6 words?
« Reply #58 on: December 11, 2010, 06:19:55 AM »
Pellius and Doison are the only two people who posted in this entire thread that have an obvious command over the subject matter that are talking about. Makaveli and Coach also had some good points. The rest of you are fucking morons who know less than nothing about economics, American History and the way taxation works.

 

Wheeewwww.....glad I didn't post... ;D

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Re: our country is in the shape it's in due to these 6 words?
« Reply #59 on: December 11, 2010, 10:26:19 AM »
And if it was limited to that our tax rate would be 10% across the board. Do I need to list all the giveaway programs, use less departments and entitlements? Do we really need tax payer funding to study the effects of Bovine flatulence on the environment? Do we really need to have a National Endowment of Arts where welder, a truck driver and a cashier help fund so some artist can submerge a crucifix in urine and call it art. I'm all for art and someone wanting to express themselves but do it on your own dime. Do you know that before the Republicans put a stop to it every member of congress had a bucket of ice and a copy of USA Today left at their door at a six figure cost to tax payers. And although it's been reduced, the Capital still employs elevator operators though manual elevator have never existed in you life time. Some feel it is unseemly that an esteem Congressman or Senator should actually have to push the damn button himself.

You seem to be utterly clueless as to the amount of waste in Government. Just remember, you always spend your own money much more wisely and frugally than you would spend other people's money.  

yes, the problem with our government is the amount of money we spend on public services like the endowment for the arts and social programs like welfare.

oh wait, what percentage of our budget goes towards those things again? lol thats right, like less than 10%.  the largest place we spend money is on the military. about 25% of all our money goes to the military, about 700billion per year, even though our militatary is larger and more powerful than the next 1dozen countries combined.  

its m,ilitary spending that needs to be cut, its military spending that is excessive.

the money we spend on healthcare, education, domestic services like wlefare, and other things are all good for the people and for our economy.

the problem we face is republicans owned by corporations who do everything in their powrer to block reform of our economic system, of our healthcare system, of our military.

the most wasteful spending occurs in the department of the defense and on medicare.  we already pay more per year than would be necessary to give every citizen complete and total healthcare for free, but our current system is hijacked by the phramcuetical industry/health insurance industry and ran i a way to maximize their own benefit, not ours.


When it comes to economics you are so staggeringly ignorant.

Yes, when Reagan lower taxes the deficit did increase but what you fail to realize was that when taxes were lowered government revenue INCREASED! The government took in more more money because economic activity increased when people got to keep more of what they earned to save, spend or invest. But it didn't matter that revenue increased because the government simply spent more. They always just spend more.

Listen to me closely my juiced up bisexual: The reason we have a deficit is not because the government doesn't take away enough of our money. The reason we have a deficit is because the government SPENDS too much. They can get away with it because there is no immediate consequences and it's not their money. It isn't coming out of their pockets. When you or I come up short at the end of the month we have to cut back, make adjustments. No more testosterona for you this week. Not the government. They simply confiscate more of our wealth and/or print more money.

Get an education FFS!


hey homeslice, your absolutely right, there would be no defecit if the government wasnt spending as much money as they were. a budget is comprised of two tihngs: incoming and outgoing revenue.  the two balance eachother.

the idea is that reducing taxes will boost economic activity, so even though the tax rate is lower, the total amount of tax revenue would increase due to higher ecnomic activity.

but that idea is false, as i showed earlier:

An analysis from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities shows that the large reductions in income tax rates in 1981 were followed by abnormally slow growth in income tax receipts, while the increases in income-tax rates enacted in 1990 and 1993 were followed by sizeable growth in income-tax receipts. Specifically, the analysis calculated that the average annual growth rate of real income-tax receipts per working-age person was 0.2% from 1981 to 1990 and a much higher 3.1% from 1990 to 2001.

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=119


see, more tax revenues durign higher periods of taxation. wtf? lol yea, i thought so. :)

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Re: our country is in the shape it's in due to these 6 words?
« Reply #60 on: December 11, 2010, 05:19:45 PM »
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Re: our country is in the shape it's in due to these 6 words?
« Reply #61 on: December 11, 2010, 05:41:12 PM »
Bumping for Obama's 9.8% UE vs. Reagans 20mil job creation.

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Re: our country is in the shape it's in due to these 6 words?
« Reply #62 on: December 11, 2010, 09:09:20 PM »
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We all learn different life lessons as we grow older. Not so long ago, you thought carbs were the devil, now you have come around to the understanding that they are not so bad. You are starting to learn the AAS/GH aren't the be all end all factors of a good physique. You have to train with progressive overload, eat accordingly and train smart. Now, a lot of what you say about politics may seem true to you and others, but you cannot spew those things out and expect people to accept what you say just because you believe in it so much. I think most of what you say concerning politics sounds like a regurgitation of liberal points of view, thats just me. Just like a lot of things you believed in so passionately only a couple years ago, you will change politiclly, I gaurenfuckingtee it. You have book smarts, but haven't quite had enough time to accumulate real world experience.