Landmark Legal Foundation (Mark Levine) on "Obamacare"

[jesusbod]

single payer:  we all belong to the same non-profit insurance company.  this insurance company spends nothing on advertisements, nothing on trying to drop patients who have serious diseases.

One insurance company huh? Sounds like Communist to me...

[Soul Crusher]

One insurance company huh? Sounds like Communist to me...

We need to get rid of insurance companies and have a true free market system to where prices will go drastically down and competition way up. 

Anywhere the govt gets involved = higher prices, more bogus red tape, etc etc.   

[Shockwave]

We need to get rid of insurance companies and have a true free market system to where prices will go drastically down and competition way up. 

Anywhere the govt gets involved = higher prices, more bogus red tape, etc etc.   

I dont understand how people dont see that the government is starting to takeover right in front of us, and everyone is just handing it over to them.....

[Emmortal]

I dont understand how people dont see that the government is starting to takeover right in front of us, and everyone is just handing it over to them.....

Starting?  What have you been doing, sleeping under a rock for the past 60 years?

[Archer77]

The indvidual mandate is pure horseshit and something CANDIDATE OBAMA said he was dead set against.   Its but one of the long list of things he lied his ass off about. 

I understand that but it has nothing to do with what I've said. Personally, I dislike mandates.  Where I am from auto insurance is mandated but yet you don't see the same individuals up in arms over it.

[Soul Crusher]

I understand that but it has nothing to do with what I've said. Personally, I dislike mandates.  Where I am from auto insurance is mandated but yet you don't see the same individuals up in arms over it.

That is because no one forces you to drive or own a car.    This obamacare mandate is pure fascist shit from the liarin chief who made a deal with the insurance companies to make us slaves to their system, with NO COST CONTROLS OR OPTIONS! 

[timfogarty]

what's your point?  if you think it's a good idea, why don't you pay my share of obamacare for me? 

do you already have medical insurance?  do you plan on keeping it?  then what are you worried about?

are you tired of paying extra (through your insurance or through copayments or through taxes) to cover the cost hospitals incur taking care of people without insurance?  those costs would disappear if everyone had insurance.

[Soul Crusher]

do you already have medical insurance?  do you plan on keeping it?  then what are you worried about?

are you tired of paying extra (through your insurance or through copayments or through taxes) to cover the cost hospitals incur taking care of people without insurance?  those costs would disappear if everyone had insurance.

  

That is another straw man argument.  do you really believe that een if 100% are covered that those supposed costs sings will ever get passed on to you? 

no!   It will go thecorporate rofits and divied out to shareholder sand exec bonuses and salaries.  Stop being a shill for KevorkianCare. 

[timfogarty]

That is another straw man argument.  do you really believe that een if 100% are covered that those supposed costs sings will ever get passed on to you? 

no!   It will go thecorporate rofits and divied out to shareholder sand exec bonuses and salaries. 

I agree.  that's why single payer is the best option

[Soul Crusher]

I agree.  that's why single payer is the best option

My thing is that we need a truly affordable option for people.   $500 a month for a single person, and over $1000 a month for a family is insane and just not affordable, and to be mandated to pay that by law is insane to me. 


Whether its public option, single payor, whatever, most people simply want something to where they wont be bankrupted if shit happens. 

I don't want a cadillac planor free shit, but at the same time, paying $500 a moth, with crazy deductibles, co pays, etc is robbery.   

[magicuser]

Today Federal District Judge Henry Hudson ruled against the Obama Administration on three essential points involving Obamacare:

1. Individuals who do not actively participate in commerce -- that is, who do not voluntarily purchase health insurance --  cannot be said to be participating in commerce under the United States Constitution's Commerce Clause, and there is no Supreme Court precedent providing otherwise;

2. The Necessary and Proper Clause of the Constitution cannot be used as a backdoor means to enforce a statute that is not otherwise constitutional under Congress's enumerated powers;

and 3. There is a difference between a tax and a penalty, there is much Supreme Court precedent in this regard, and the penalty provision in Obamacare is not a tax but a penalty and, therefore, is unconstitutional for it is applied to individuals who choose not to purchase health care.

 

Judge Hudson's ruling against the Obama Administration and for the Commonwealth of Virginia gives hope that the rule of law and the Constitution itself still having meaning.  Landmark Legal Foundation has filed several amicus briefs in this case, at the request of the Commonwealth, and will continue to provide support in the likely event the Commonwealth is required to defend this decision in the Fourth Circuit and U.S. Supreme Court.  Landmark would also like to congratulate Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli and the excellent lawyers in his office for their superb legal skills.

 

Landmark President Mark R. Levin declared:  "It is a great day for the rule of law and the citizenry.  Judge Hudson's ruling is ironclad, and General Cuccinelli deserves an enormous amount of credit for taking on this mater.  We look forward to continuing to work with him."

nice

I can't wait until obama is gone.
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