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Re: Michael Moore Posts Bail for WikiLeaks co-founder Julian Assange.
« Reply #25 on: December 14, 2010, 10:52:24 AM »
Once again...look up the definition of treason...upon understanding this, this is the end of conversation.
Assange is not a U.S. citizen. He did not steal the documents himself and so under your way of thinking, anyone or any entity that spoke of or released any of this information should be tried also..that's all moot because you can't be a traitor if you're not a citizen of the nation.

If it's the end of conversation why is there talk on the Hill trying to extradite Assange on releasing these documents?

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Re: Michael Moore Posts Bail for WikiLeaks co-founder Julian Assange.
« Reply #26 on: December 14, 2010, 10:53:35 AM »
funny how many European posters slam America for being politically active throughout the world while simultaneously posting in threads about US domestic matters

Nothing wrong in that. As long as you know who not to mess with. We all don't want to wake up one day seeing mushroom clouds  :-\

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Re: Michael Moore Posts Bail for WikiLeaks co-founder Julian Assange.
« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2010, 10:55:04 AM »
The way I see it, there should be some things people should know and something they shouldn't. A lot of the documents released were done not out of good will but to embarrass the United States government. That is exactly why they released some documents of what the Administration felt about our countries leaders. This doesn't help searching for peace around the world.

Maybe I look at it more in depth than others.

I understand what you are saying, but this is all theory and ideal...
According to the laws on the books, he can't be tried for treason, he's not a U.S. citizen, 2. he did not steal the documents himself, 3. Any other media outlet that publicized the documents should be tried also...it's really quite simple as that.

This is obviously an embarrassment so instead of being butt hurt over it, review the security measures...btw it's going to get worse, it is said they only released 1/10 of 1 percent...
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Re: Michael Moore Posts Bail for WikiLeaks co-founder Julian Assange.
« Reply #28 on: December 14, 2010, 10:55:40 AM »
why is that?

I think he has exposed alot of shit that truely shows how fucked up  bunch of shit in america is? is he wrong about everything all the time?
Or maby just ANTI AMERICAN for daring to expose stuff?

no, because he outright lies.
also, america as a whole can deal with whiners only so much.  he's a fat slob who's made millions from capitalism while simulatenously bashing it.  hypocrisy is also frowned upon.
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Re: Michael Moore Posts Bail for WikiLeaks co-founder Julian Assange.
« Reply #29 on: December 14, 2010, 10:55:53 AM »
why is that?

I think he has exposed alot of shit that truely shows how fucked up  bunch of shit in america is? is he wrong about everything all the time?
Or maby just ANTI AMERICAN for daring to expose stuff?

Michael Moore contributes to the weak minded individuals in all of his documentaries. He touches on things that get people's blood boiling and shows a few clips of isolated cases (especially with the healthcare)showing how great socialized medicine is all over the world, but right after he shows that, other clips show different.

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Re: Michael Moore Posts Bail for WikiLeaks co-founder Julian Assange.
« Reply #30 on: December 14, 2010, 10:56:31 AM »
I understand what you are saying, but this is all theory and ideal...
According to the laws on the books, he can't be tried for treason, he's not a U.S. citizen, 2. he did not steal the documents himself, 3. Any other media outlet that publicized the documents should be tried also...it's really quite simple as that.

This is obviously an embarrassment so instead of being butt hurt over it, review the security measures...btw it's going to get worse, it is said they only released 1/10 of 1 percent...

And... doesnt matter what happend to assange stuff will get relased anyway

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Re: Michael Moore Posts Bail for WikiLeaks co-founder Julian Assange.
« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2010, 10:57:18 AM »
Michael Moore contributes to the weak minded individuals in all of his documentaries. He touches on things that get people's blood boiling and shows a few clips of isolated cases (especially with the healthcare)showing how great socialized medicine is all over the world, but right after he shows that, other clips show different.

so one example, the 911 workers that wasnt taken care of worth SHIT in usa was just a bunch of lies? Alot of the anger seems to be that you cant handle the fact that someones dares to exposew ANYTHING. hence america goes nuts over assange

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Re: Michael Moore Posts Bail for WikiLeaks co-founder Julian Assange.
« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2010, 10:58:29 AM »
I understand what you are saying, but this is all theory and ideal...
According to the laws on the books, he can't be tried for treason, he's not a U.S. citizen, 2. he did not steal the documents himself, 3. Any other media outlet that publicized the documents should be tried also...it's really quite simple as that.

This is obviously an embarrassment so instead of being butt hurt over it, review the security measures...btw it's going to get worse, it is said they only released 1/10 of 1 percent...

If they can't get him for Treason, at least they could get him for illegally obtaining them and all that also have them? I would think that could hold water.

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Re: Michael Moore Posts Bail for WikiLeaks co-founder Julian Assange.
« Reply #33 on: December 14, 2010, 10:59:34 AM »
If it's the end of conversation why is there talk on the Hill trying to extradite Assange on releasing these documents?

Because they're trying to figure out a way to manipulate the laws to suit their agenda...in the end it won't work, we have egg on our face, deal with it...
If you think that other groups/people don't have these docs waiting to be released in some form you'd be mistaken...there are back up plans, believe that....
This is a good thing...

The dirty ass government needs to be checked anyway.
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Re: Michael Moore Posts Bail for WikiLeaks co-founder Julian Assange.
« Reply #34 on: December 14, 2010, 11:00:23 AM »
so one example, the 911 workers that wasnt taken care of worth SHIT in usa was just a bunch of lies?

He didn't show the 911 workers that got millions in damages. Why? Because if he showed that, his whole premise wouldn't hold up in the perception of his documentary.

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Re: Michael Moore Posts Bail for WikiLeaks co-founder Julian Assange.
« Reply #35 on: December 14, 2010, 11:00:24 AM »
Didn't read anybodys comments......these two worthless piles of shit deserve each other.

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Re: Michael Moore Posts Bail for WikiLeaks co-founder Julian Assange.
« Reply #36 on: December 14, 2010, 11:01:33 AM »
He didn't show the 911 workers that got millions in damages. Why? Because if he showed that, his whole premise wouldn't hold up in the perception of his documentary.

but there are Still 911 workers that didnt get shit, not even good treatment? ofc some poeple got treatment I doubt no one realises that. the fact that there are Anyone doesnt get it is mindblowing though, especially first responders.

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Re: Michael Moore Posts Bail for WikiLeaks co-founder Julian Assange.
« Reply #37 on: December 14, 2010, 11:01:59 AM »


This is obviously an embarrassment so instead of being butt hurt over it, review the security measures...btw it's going to get worse, it is said they only released 1/10 of 1 percent...

Hey c'mon now. If that bastard and his little crew really had something mindboggling or stunning to reveal, he would already be 6 ft under.
I hope you realize this..

One thinking that he can mess up with biggest and most powerful nations in the world with something serious secrets without consequences is out of his mind.

There was few years ago former Russian KGB officer or something like that who was bout to reveal some pretty HC stuff. He had moved to GB and thought he was safe there and able to "speak the truth". This is how he ended up in few moments:



I bet CIA also is capable to eliminate enemy if really necessary.

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Re: Michael Moore Posts Bail for WikiLeaks co-founder Julian Assange.
« Reply #38 on: December 14, 2010, 11:02:18 AM »
Because they're trying to figure out a way to manipulate the laws to suit their agenda...in the end it won't work, we have egg on our face, deal with it...
If you think that other groups/people don't have these docs waiting to be released in some form you'd be mistaken...there are back up plans, believe that....
This is a good thing...

The dirty ass government needs to be checked anyway.

"The dirty ass government needs to be checked anyway"... I agree with you, but not this way.. Oversight committee's from the United States, not some rogue Ass head...

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Re: Michael Moore Posts Bail for WikiLeaks co-founder Julian Assange.
« Reply #39 on: December 14, 2010, 11:03:54 AM »
Hey c'mon now. If that bastard and his little crew really had something mindboggling or stunning to reveal, he would already be 6 ft under.
I hope you realize this..

One thinking that he can mess up with biggest and most powerful nations in the world with something serious secrets without consequences is out of his mind.

There was few years ago former Russian KGB officer or something like that who was bout to reveal some pretty HC stuff. He had moved to GB and thought he was safe there and able to "speak the truth". This is how he ended up in few moments:



I bet CIA also is capable to eliminate enemy if really necessary.


as wiggs said I assure you there is a shitload of backup plans if they do anything. and IF assagne dies now, there will be a SHITSTORM  because all of the press he has gotten:)

im sure all goverments have hitmen also hehe.

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Re: Michael Moore Posts Bail for WikiLeaks co-founder Julian Assange.
« Reply #40 on: December 14, 2010, 11:05:06 AM »
If they can't get him for Treason, at least they could get him for illegally obtaining them and all that also have them? I would think that could hold water.

the 1.4GB encrypted insurance file containing everything they have so far, is already circulating the internet through torrents etc. a nightmare to enforce.

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Re: Michael Moore Posts Bail for WikiLeaks co-founder Julian Assange.
« Reply #41 on: December 14, 2010, 11:05:11 AM »
Hey c'mon now. If that bastard and his little crew really had something mindboggling or stunning to reveal, he would already be 6 ft under.
I hope you realize this..

One thinking that he can mess up with biggest and most powerful nations in the world with something serious secrets without consequences is out of his mind.

There was few years ago former Russian KGB officer or something like that who was bout to reveal some pretty HC stuff. He had moved to GB and thought he was safe there and able to "speak the truth". This is how he ended up in few moments:



I bet CIA also is capable to eliminate enemy if really necessary.


This is one time I wish assange would be hanging from the cell door or poison in his toothbrush.. Maybe it's the oath I took to defend this country when I served in the military or maybe it is just pride for my country that I would like to see this piece of shit fall from the face of the earth.

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Re: Michael Moore Posts Bail for WikiLeaks co-founder Julian Assange.
« Reply #42 on: December 14, 2010, 11:06:21 AM »
the 1.4GB encrypted insurance file containing everything they have so far, is already circulating the internet through torrents etc. a nightmare to enforce.

its impossible to hack if a few hundred people doesnt get togheter and do it simutanisly.

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Re: Michael Moore Posts Bail for WikiLeaks co-founder Julian Assange.
« Reply #43 on: December 14, 2010, 11:07:37 AM »
This is one time I wish assange would be hanging from the cell door or poison in his toothbrush.. Maybe it's the oath I took to defend this country when I served in the military or maybe it is just pride for my country that I would like to see this piece of shit fall from the face of the earth.

overly patriotic feelings which probably helps the corrupt goverment get away with a bunch of shit :)

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Re: Michael Moore Posts Bail for WikiLeaks co-founder Julian Assange.
« Reply #44 on: December 14, 2010, 11:08:41 AM »
Hey c'mon now. If that bastard and his little crew really had something mindboggling or stunning to reveal, he would already be 6 ft under.
I hope you realize this..

One thinking that he can mess up with biggest and most powerful nations in the world with something serious secrets without consequences is out of his mind.

There was few years ago former Russian KGB officer or something like that who was bout to reveal some pretty HC stuff. He had moved to GB and thought he was safe there and able to "speak the truth". This is how he ended up in few moments:



I bet CIA also is capable to eliminate enemy if really necessary.


Of course and I remember when this happened.  Assange is the mastermind but they'll not be able to get his info, there so much stuff out there, I'm sure many, many people have this info in various places world wide now.

jesusbod, everything is so corrupted it like having the former head of a pharmaceutical company in charge of the FDA...I'm sure everyone is not corrupt but what power does an oversite committee really have?  it's not like they have access to ALL information so in some cases in kind of pointless.

Of course most things should remain classified (don't have a list).
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Re: Michael Moore Posts Bail for WikiLeaks co-founder Julian Assange.
« Reply #45 on: December 14, 2010, 11:10:37 AM »
Lot's of brainwashed fuckers on here lol.

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« Reply #46 on: December 14, 2010, 11:10:40 AM »
its impossible to hack if a few hundred people doesnt get togheter and do it simutanisly.

apparently there is no computers capable of hacking this level of encryption, a pretty bold statement by WikiLeaks. I don't know how they can be so sure about that.

they will release the key if they see fit. Like if Assange is Jailed or they are shutdown somehow.

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« Reply #47 on: December 14, 2010, 11:12:19 AM »
apparently there is no computers capable of hacking this level of encryption, a pretty bold statement by WikiLeaks. I don't know how they can be so sure about that.

they will release the key if they see fit. Like if Assange is Jailed or they are shutdown somehow.

thats what I said.

everything is capable or being brute forced or whatever its called if a Bunch of hackers joins in Im pretty sure.

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« Reply #48 on: December 14, 2010, 11:16:50 AM »
speaking of hacking this is the dude that took down wikileaks for a while, also a ex military it seems like, and hates muslims. He programed the program from the ground up and takes down a muslim site in the vid lol.


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Re: Michael Moore Posts Bail for WikiLeaks co-founder Julian Assange.
« Reply #49 on: December 14, 2010, 11:16:53 AM »
This is one time I wish assange would be hanging from the cell door or poison in his toothbrush.. Maybe it's the oath I took to defend this country when I served in the military or maybe it is just pride for my country that I would like to see this piece of shit fall from the face of the earth.

I am a patriot, but not a blind patriot.
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