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What an individual mandate gets you
« on: December 14, 2010, 10:37:04 AM »
What an individual mandate gets you
By Ezra Klein



The latest insurance data (pdf) from Massachusetts is out, and it shows what a difference an individual mandate makes: About 98 percent of the state's residents have health insurance, as do 99.8 percent of the state's children. Among adults with incomes below 300 percent of the poverty line, coverage is up to 96 percent. And as you can see in the graph atop this post, those numbers have actually been getting better during the recession -- which is almost unheard of when it comes to health insurance.

For comparison, 17 percent of the country is uninsured, as are 10 percent of American children. And those numbers would of course be higher if Massachusetts wasn't dragging the average down.

(Via The Incidental Economist.)

By Ezra Klein  | December 14, 2010
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Re: What an individual mandate gets you
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2010, 10:40:14 AM »
So, what Ezra is saying is that if you force everyone to buy a private sector health insurance product and punish them greatly if they don't then more people will buy health insurance?

Some real startling analysis there. Of course the "article" kinda sorta skirts everything else but whatever.

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Re: What an individual mandate gets you
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2010, 10:43:49 AM »
They also have the highest costs in the nation you moron.  Ezra klein - is a typical   ---------  25 y/o with no real life experience giving these bogus opinions to useful idiots and dolts like Butthead who eat it up. 

Unreal how stupid you liberal freaks are. 

I really am warming up to the idea of a prisoner colony where we can send liberals and leftists to build their communist utopia.   

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Re: What an individual mandate gets you
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2010, 10:44:13 AM »
So, what Ezra is saying is that if you force everyone to buy a private sector product and punish them greatly if they don't then more people will be insured?

Some real startling analysis there. Of course the "article" kinda sorta skirts everything else but whatever.

You use the word "force" Gigantor," yet what do the polls in MA say about the approval ratings of their health care system? Let's get some of your "startling analysis."  ::)
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Re: What an individual mandate gets you
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2010, 10:47:25 AM »
You use the word "force" Gigantor," yet what do the polls in MA say about the approval ratings of their health care system? Let's get some of your "startling analysis."  ::)

Funny you stupid schmuck - your sfengale Obama was deadset against mandates before he was for them. 




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Re: What an individual mandate gets you
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2010, 10:51:14 AM »
Here is some analysis. If you increase the demand for a product, no matter what it is, and you fail to increase the supply of the product than you get shortages and dramatic increases in price.

To counter act the demand for the product you will have bureaucrats making decisions for the people that were forced to buy the product concerning how to use it, how much they get to use it and when they can't use it anymore.

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« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2010, 10:52:29 AM »
Funny you stupid schmuck - your sfengale Obama was deadset against mandates before he was for them. 





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Re: What an individual mandate gets you
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2010, 10:58:30 AM »
Funny you stupid schmuck - your sfengale Obama was deadset against mandates before he was for them. 





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« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2010, 11:00:06 AM »
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Re: What an individual mandate gets you
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2010, 11:05:40 AM »
Fuck off PEA BRAIN. The NYT classifieds await you. There may be a job cleaning the toilets at Grand Central that'll get you off of getbig for 18 hours per day.  :-\
nice retort  ;D

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Re: What an individual mandate gets you
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2010, 11:09:11 AM »
nice retort  ;D

I actually was in Grand Central yesterday eating lunch and drinking beers for an hour after winning a huge Summary Judgment motion on a very complex construction case to which i had a huge law firm against me.  I got awarded foreclosure of the premises, attorney fees, and contempt of court if the defendant does not pay me within 30 days. 

As for Benny - my clips = OWNED 

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« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2010, 11:13:19 AM »
OBAMA = IDIOT/LIAR/DECEIVER IN CHIEF


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Re: What an individual mandate gets you
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2010, 11:17:51 AM »
Here is some analysis. If you increase the demand for a product, no matter what it is, and you fail to increase the supply of the product than you get shortages and dramatic increases in price.

To counter act the demand for the product you will have bureaucrats making decisions for the people that were forced to buy the product concerning how to use it, how much they get to use it and when they can't use it anymore.
This isn't an expanded "analysis" of what you previously stated, or an answer to my question. Just superfluous bullshit.  ::) Since your answer was incredibly anemic and insubstantial, let me answer my own question:


JON GRUBER, economist, Massachusetts Institute of Technology: It's worked very well. I think the facts are very clear. We have lowered the number of uninsured by 60 percent, from about 10 percent of the population to about 4 percent of the population. We have done so on budget. We essentially are exactly where we thought we would be when we started the program in 2006.
And we have done so in a way which is very popular with the public. It's got about a 74 percent public approval rating.



They are being "forced", yet they voted for the program and it is overwhelmingly popular.  ::)

Thanks for the laughs, "Gigantor!"

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Re: What an individual mandate gets you
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2010, 11:18:48 AM »
nice retort  ;D
PEA BRAIN always needs a reality check, but the fat little unemployed turd is too far gone.
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« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2010, 11:23:06 AM »
I actually was in Grand Central yesterday eating lunch and drinking beers for an hour after winning a huge Summary Judgment motion on a very complex construction case to which i had a huge law firm against me.  I got awarded foreclosure of the premises, attorney fees, and contempt of court if the defendant does not pay me within 30 days. 

As for Benny - my clips = OWNED 
Stop lying, you fat little unemployed turd.

I was in The 21 Club last night sipping cocktails with Jamie Dimon on the latest mergers and acquisitions deal our firm collaborated in with JPM. Good times.  ::)
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« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2010, 11:24:09 AM »
Benny = done   


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« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2010, 11:26:42 AM »

LOL@ PEA BRAIN going to ultra lesftist Cenk to try and make a point.  ;D Although I like him,  I don't agree with him half of the time, so I don't give a shit. I imagine Cenk advocated single-payer, or at the very least the public option, PEA BRAIN.
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« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2010, 11:29:19 AM »
Benny = done   


Obama = President

You= pathologically, disturbed fat little turd.

Of course, posting videos and making hundreds of posts per day on getbig is how most high-powered lawyers spend their time.  ::) LOL What a joke.
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« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2010, 11:29:45 AM »
BENNY = BURIED & OWED FOR GOOD  






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Re: What an individual mandate gets you
« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2010, 11:30:56 AM »
BENNY - CAN YOU EXPLAIN BAMA'S FLIP FLOPS ON THE MANDATE? 

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« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2010, 11:32:27 AM »
BENNY = BURIED & OWED FOR GOOD  





We've gone from Gigantor and I having a discussion on MA's healthcare system to PEA BRAIN posting an endless stream of videos that don't make an argument or amount to a hill of beans. The sad, fat little masturbating turd has completely lost it.  :D
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