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What is "Progressive Overload"?
« on: December 16, 2010, 12:35:45 AM »
I believe it has something to do with your training, no?

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Re: What is "Progressive Overload"?
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2010, 07:27:44 AM »
Yes  >:(
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Re: What is "Progressive Overload"?
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2010, 07:39:13 AM »
Forget it...Just up the dose...

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Re: What is "Progressive Overload"?
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2010, 07:55:04 AM »
Is this a trick question?
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Re: What is "Progressive Overload"?
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2010, 07:56:59 AM »

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Re: What is "Progressive Overload"?
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2010, 10:57:00 AM »
it's another word for "bullshit to hide the use of 3+ grams of gear"...

most people who say that say "you have to increase the weights every week"... and when you ask them "if i rest 60 secs between sets of 135 lbs of bench press... and the next week i rest only 55 secs and i can do the same weight, is that progressive overload?" they say no...  ::)

this guy does rear delt raises with 20 lb dumbbells, and flat benches 90 lb dumbbells...

"progressive overload" my ass



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Re: What is "Progressive Overload"?
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2010, 10:59:10 AM »
it's another word for "bullshit to hide the use of 3+ grams of gear"...

most people who say that say "you have to increase the weights every week"... and when you ask them "if i rest 60 secs between sets of 135 lbs of bench press... and the next week i rest only 55 secs and i can do the same weight, is that progressive overload?" they say no...  ::)

this guy does rear delt raises with 20 lb dumbbells, and flat benches 90 lb dumbbells...

"progressive overload" my ass




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Re: What is "Progressive Overload"?
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2010, 11:03:35 AM »
A natural will reach his strength potential within about 3 years of training.  Strength gains from there are minimal.  Progressive overload sounds great, but there's no way someone with 15 years of training is upping their weights every workout.  

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Re: What is "Progressive Overload"?
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2010, 11:05:27 AM »
An natural will reach his strength potential within about 3 years of training.  Strength gains from there are minimal.  Progressive overload sounds great, but there's no way someone with 15 years of training is upping their weights every workout. 
not every workout. Every couple months. Using the nickels and dimes.


Progressive overload is the only way to guarantee you keep growing

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Re: What is "Progressive Overload"?
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2010, 11:13:55 AM »
not every workout. Every couple months. Using the nickels and dimes.


Progressive overload is the only way to guarantee you keep growing

It's not that simple.  nutrition, drugs (if they are used) are just as if not more important.
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Re: What is "Progressive Overload"?
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2010, 11:15:22 AM »
not every workout. Every couple months. Using the nickels and dimes.


Progressive overload is the only way to guarantee you keep growing

sorry... i have to disagree... i come from a country where if you train heavy, you're rendered as an idiot who wants to hurt himself.
upping the dose is the only way to guarantee you keep growing...

when someone says "yeah, progressive overload man... but you have to eat more... and you have to gradually raise your dose with time when you plateau for 2 years... it's the weights that give you the muscle, but the food and aas is what helps you get stronger... if you don't try to get stronger, you don't grow!"

getting stronger is a sure fire way to ensure you'll get injured... up the dose, you get hungrier, you get bigger... no need to increase the weight... i assure you.

I know A LOT of big guys who look like they can easily bench 455 lbs, but they fail at 12 reps with 275 or 315...

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Re: What is "Progressive Overload"?
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2010, 11:16:11 AM »
progressive overload:

progressively overloading your receptors with more and more anabolic compounds to incur further muscle growth.

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whoever believes 'progressive overload' is the way to 'bigger muscles' needs to stop drinking the koolaid, regurgitating everything they read on line and gain a little life experience in the gym.

then they'll reaiise all that matters is upping the dosage from where it was from your last cycle to grow further from where that last cycle left you, because nobody gets bigger using less, or the same amount of gear than the cycle before.

this is fact. progressive overload my ass.
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Re: What is "Progressive Overload"?
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2010, 11:16:40 AM »
sorry... i have to disagree... i come from a country where if you train heavy, you're rendered as an idiot who wants to hurt himself.
upping the dose is the only way to guarantee you keep growing...

when someone says "yeah, progressive overload man... but you have to eat more... and you have to gradually raise your dose with time when you plateau for 2 years... it's the weights that give you the muscle, but the food and aas is what helps you get stronger... if you don't try to get stronger, you don't grow!"

getting stronger is a sure fire way to ensure you'll get injured... up the dose, you get hungrier, you get bigger... no need to increase the weight... i assure you.

I know A LOT of big guys who look like they can easily bench 455 lbs, but they fail at 12 reps with 275 or 315...

check your pm sir.
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Re: What is "Progressive Overload"?
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2010, 11:24:09 AM »
sorry... i have to disagree... i come from a country where if you train heavy, you're rendered as an idiot who wants to hurt himself.
upping the dose is the only way to guarantee you keep growing...

when someone says "yeah, progressive overload man... but you have to eat more... and you have to gradually raise your dose with time when you plateau for 2 years... it's the weights that give you the muscle, but the food and aas is what helps you get stronger... if you don't try to get stronger, you don't grow!"

getting stronger is a sure fire way to ensure you'll get injured... up the dose, you get hungrier, you get bigger... no need to increase the weight... i assure you.

I know A LOT of big guys who look like they can easily bench 455 lbs, but they fail at 12 reps with 275 or 315...

12 reps with 315 is pretty damn heavy for 99% of bodybuilders out there

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Re: What is "Progressive Overload"?
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2010, 11:24:33 AM »
not every workout. Every couple months. Using the nickels and dimes.


Progressive overload is the only way to guarantee you keep growing

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Re: What is "Progressive Overload"?
« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2010, 11:26:03 AM »
progressive overload:

progressively overloading your receptors with more and more anabolic compounds to incur further muscle growth.

:D

whoever believes 'progressive overload' is the way to 'bigger muscles' needs to stop drinking the koolaid, regurgitating everything they read on line and gain a little life experience in the gym.

then they'll reaiise all that matters is upping the dosage from where it was from your last cycle to grow further from where that last cycle left you, because nobody gets bigger using less, or the same amount of gear than the cycle before.

this is fact. progressive overload my ass.

I dropped my dosage from 1500mg to 500mg and started focusing on building strength and have been growing better than ever.  :)

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Re: What is "Progressive Overload"?
« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2010, 11:30:48 AM »
I dropped my dosage from 1500mg to 500mg and started focusing on building strength and have been growing better than ever.  :)

great!

come back after you have training and juicing for 10 years and tell us the same thing.

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Re: What is "Progressive Overload"?
« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2010, 11:56:55 AM »
I dropped my dosage from 1500mg to 500mg and started focusing on building strength and have been growing better than ever.  :)

Right, as no one is implying that will be fine up to a point.  ;)

This is called reality, almost every system is beholden to this one golden rule:


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Re: What is "Progressive Overload"?
« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2010, 11:58:57 AM »
not every workout. Every couple months. Using the nickels and dimes.

Progressive overload is the only way to guarantee you keep growing

Once you near your genetic potential (as a natural) even 5 to 10 lb strength increases every couple months cannot be maintained.  What do you do when you reach that point? 

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Re: What is "Progressive Overload"?
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2010, 12:05:26 PM »
I dropped my dosage from 1500mg to 500mg and started focusing on building strength and have been growing better than ever.  :)

trying dropping the 1500 mg of all test and try 1200 mg of deca and 250 mg test, and train like serge nubret or gironda tell you to... then tell me you don't look much better than you ever dreamed of.

and take some time off for god's sake.  :P

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Re: What is "Progressive Overload"?
« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2010, 12:39:42 PM »
It is something that works.

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Re: What is "Progressive Overload"?
« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2010, 12:48:16 PM »
progressive overload = increasing doses of  hormones in direct corelation to increasing doses of hgh,,

very very rare are the bodybuilder who is also very strong,,it is VERY GOOD when you find him but he wont be the most impressive one look wise,,those ones wil never hav ethe best muscle looking physiqe because the heavy lifting will take its toll ,,they are few and rare,,the ones who had both much power and great look physiqe are even rarest  very very few ron ,,dorian,,etc not many,,
 it is always important that before you open mouth take a good look around your gym,,follow what the big muscular fellas on hormones do ,,the ones who show the largest leanset size,,follow them a little,,you will see they never work heavy,,they cant,,they dont know what it is,,they say they do but in most cases MOST CASES they dont,,yet they always show large physiqe with condition and dried lethery veiny lean look...how come ?

well,, the secret is in direct increase of aas inrelation to the increas in gh,,

more gh = more steroid = larger size = bigger thicker muscle = 95 out of 100 top competitor now day


not to forget!,,on every ron colman there is 100 ken wheelers and pauli dilet ,,thats about the ratio...yet look at ken wheeler at his best ,,look at pauli dillet at his best,,,

D R U G S baby ,,thats the name of the game,,quality and quantity ,,, type and consistancy

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Re: What is "Progressive Overload"?
« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2010, 12:54:16 PM »
Hold on a minute. The reason I get stronger and bigger is because of the past 6 years I have gradually lifted heavier weights and gradually ate more food to recover. Obviously gains are slower and I won't add 50lbs a year to my bench press but I am still adding lbage. If I only add 5lbs a year over the next 10 years I will still have a 450lb bench which for a natty isn't too shabby at all. (Granted I am heavy)

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Re: What is "Progressive Overload"?
« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2010, 12:55:33 PM »
progressive overload = increasing doses of  hormones in direct corelation to increasing doses of hgh,,

very very rare are the bodybuilder who is also very strong,,it is VERY GOOD when you find him but he wont be the most impressive one look wise,,those ones wil never hav ethe best muscle looking physiqe because the heavy lifting will take its toll ,,they are few and rare,,the ones who had both much power and great look physiqe are even rarest  very very few ron ,,dorian,,etc not many,,
 it is always important that before you open mouth take a good look around your gym,,follow what the big muscular fellas on hormones do ,,the ones who show the largest leanset size,,follow them a little,,you will see they never work heavy,,they cant,,they dont know what it is,,they say they do but in most cases MOST CASES they dont,,yet they always show large physiqe with condition and dried lethery veiny lean look...how come ?

well,, the secret is in direct increase of aas inrelation to the increas in gh,,

more gh = more steroid = larger size = bigger thicker muscle = 95 out of 100 top competitor now day


not to forget!,,on every ron colman there is 100 ken wheelers and pauli dilet ,,thats about the ratio...yet look at ken wheeler at his best ,,look at pauli dillet at his best,,,

D R U G S baby ,,thats the name of the game,,quality and quantity ,,, type and consistancy

gh15 approved



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Re: What is "Progressive Overload"?
« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2010, 01:05:12 PM »
I believe it has something to do with your training, no?

  Progressive overload is the principle that dictates that muscles grow from increasing strength. The explanation for this is in physiology and physics. The strength of the individual contractile unit(the sarcomere) does not increase, so the only way for a muscle to become stronger is by adding more sarcomeres and thus becoming bigger in volume. A simple physiological fact(that sarcomeres don't increase in strength so the only way for a muscle to increase in strength is by adding more sarcomeres thus increasing in volume) and a simple fact from physics(that the only way for a unit that generates force to increase it's ability to generate force if it can't generate more force per unit of size is to increase in size) explains the phenomena of muscle growth. There is nothing more to it. Everything else is bullshit to sell supplements.

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