What is "Progressive Overload"?

[dj181]

Ok, fvck dis bench shirt shit and lets get back to the topic of dis thread. So... Did King Arnold get bigger bis from using lesser and lesser training loads, or from greater and greater training loads?

[chaos]

  Yes, it does.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

You are wrong, admit it, you are arguing a futile argument here.

[Jaime]

  Tendons don't contract, dumbass. How does adding stronger tendons allow you to lift heavier weights? So if you give the tendons of a 350 lbs powerlifter to a 130 lbs woman she will be able to bench as much as the 350 lbs powerlifter? See how dumb you guys sound?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

No, just give the weightlifter some more tendons and he will be stronger.

If you put more cable in a suspension bridge it is stronger.

[mesmorph78]

A natural will reach his strength potential within about 3 years of training.  Strength gains from there are minimal.  Progressive overload sounds great, but there's no way someone with 15 years of training is upping their weights every workout.  

false I've been traing over 8 yrs I get stronger EVERY year and bigger

[mesmorph78]

12 reps with 315 is pretty damn heavy for 99% of bodybuilders out there

don't agree here some people are built to bench
not saying I am but at this point 315 x 12 is not heavy
when I do bench and I'm not going heavy my last 2 sets are 315 for 10 to 15 reps no problem

[suckmymuscle]

No, just give the weightlifter some more tendons and he will be stronger.

If you put more cable in a suspension bridge it is stronger.

  Lol, this is not even an argument. A bridge being suspended by capables is not moving, you idiot. There is no force being generated. You are trying to argue that stronger tendons makes you stronger(allows to lift more weight). Tendons do not contract, hence stronger tendons do not make you stronger if your muscle mass and neuromuscular firing efficiency does not increase concomitantly. This is simple logic, but apparently it is too convoluted for you morons to understand. If you added stronger cables to one of those bridges that lift to allow for the passage of ships but added an engine with a power that is inferior to what is required to lift both ends of the bridge, the ends of the bridge wouldn't be lifted.

  You guys = owned for the upteenth time.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Master Blaster]

 Lol, this is not even an argument. A bridge being suspended by capables is not moving, you idiot. There is no force being generated. You are trying to argue that stronger tendons makes you stronger(allows to lift more weight). Tendons do not contract, hence stronger tendons do not make you stronger if your muscle mass and neuromuscular firing efficiency does not increase concomitantly. This is simple logic, but apparently it is too convoluted for you morons to understand. If you added stronger cables to one of those bridges that lift to allow for the passage of ships but added an engine with a power that is inferior to what is required to lift both ends of the bridge, the ends of the bridge wouldn't be lifted.

  You guys = owned for the upteenth time.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

wrong broski....the force being gernerated is called GRAVITY (look it up)  more cables on the bridge mean more cars can drive on it = stronger bridge

 

[chaos]

Lol

[Ursus]

I tried explaining tendon=strength before.

No success.

[suckmymuscle]

wrong broski....the force being gernerated is called GRAVITY (look it up)  more cables on the bridge mean more cars can drive on it = stronger bridge

 

  Sigh...force as in work produced. Gravity does not produce work, stupid. This is high school physics. Lifting an object of the ground requires you to expend energy(generate force). A cable lifting an object that is static is not generating any force.

  And this is besides the point. The point is moving the weight. Yes, stronger tendons allows you to support heavier weights and I never denied this, but it doesen't make you stronger for the simple reason that tendons do not contract. Hence, adding stronger tendons do not make you any stronger if your muscles and/or muscle efficiency remains the same.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Jaime]

 Sigh...force as in work produced. Gravity does not produce work, stupid. This is high school physics. Lifting an object of the ground requires you to expend energy(generate force). A cable lifting an object that is static is not generating any force.

  And this is besides the point. The point is moving the weight. Yes, stronger tendons allows you to support heavier weights and I never denied this, but it doesen't make you stronger for the simple reason that tendons do not contract. Hence, adding stronger tendons do not make you any stronger if your muscles and/or muscle efficiency remains the same.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

I would equate the capacity to support large ammounts of weight as being strong.

Owned.

Glad we cleared that up.

Shouldn't you be off formulating philosophical arguments and reciting the gazzilion digits of pi you fucking little geek animal supersoldier genius.

[Master Blaster]

 Sigh...force as in work produced. Gravity does not produce work, stupid. This is high school physics. Lifting an object of the ground requires you to expend energy(generate force). A cable lifting an object that is static is not generating any force.

  And this is besides the point. The point is moving the weight. Yes, stronger tendons allows you to support heavier weights and I never denied this, but it doesen't make you stronger for the simple reason that tendons do not contract. Hence, adding stronger tendons do not make you any stronger if your muscles and/or muscle efficiency remains the same.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Suckmuscle is a classic example of the limits of raw intelligence. He's a smart guy, but we all know how Albert Einstein couldn't tie his own shoe laces and needed a guide dog to find his way home. Suckmuscle is the same way, he understands cell biology and how muscle cells get all that food in them to start growth, but practical matters like tendon stegnth clearly elude him.

Kinda sad, really.   

[MB]

false I've been traing over 8 yrs I get stronger EVERY year and bigger

Your strength curve most likely looks like the graph posted by Master Blaster.

[thelamefalsehood]

Tendon good. Sucky bad.

[The Showstoppa]

i think it was a hair-band in the 80's.....

[Tito24]

hairy asses

[suckmymuscle]

Suckmuscle is a classic example of the limits of raw intelligence. He's a smart guy, but we all know how Albert Einstein couldn't tie his own shoe laces and needed a guide dog to find his way home. Suckmuscle is the same way, he understands cell biology and how muscle cells get all that food in them to start growth, but practical matters like tendon stegnth clearly elude him.

Kinda sad, really.   

  You are the one who is unable to understand that your argument doesen't even apply in this case.

  Stronger tendons do not make you stronger if your muscle mass and neurological ability to recruit muscle fibers does not increase concomitantly.

  Tendons do not contract and thus they do not generate force, hence an increase in tendon strength does not make you stronger.

  Stronger tendons allows you to lift heavier weights if your muscles can generate enough force to lift those weights.

  I do not know how to make this any simpler for you guys to understand.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Ursus]

Tendons make weightlifting possible.

[Jaime]

  You are the one who is unable to understand that your argument doesen't even apply in this case.

  Stronger tendons do not make you stronger if your muscle mass and neurological ability to recruit muscle fibers does not increase concomitantly.

  Tendons do not contract and thus they do not generate force, hence an increase in tendon strength does not make you stronger.

  Stronger tendons allows you to lift heavier weights if your muscles can generate enough force to lift those weights.

  I do not know how to make this any simpler for you guys to understand.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

More tendons equates to more stronger. What you not understand dummie?

[Master Blaster]

 &guy tendons allows you to lift heavier weights [/b] if your muscles can generate enough force to lift those weights.

  

you're proving my point, bro

stronger tendons = more strength

[suckmymuscle]

you're proving my point, bro

stronger tendons = more strength

  So if you give the tendons of a 350 lbs powerlifter to a 130 lbs woman she will be able to bench as much as the powerlifter? Just answer a simple "yes" or "no" to this question.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Ursus]

Of course.

[Master Blaster]

  So if you give the tendons of a 350 lbs powerlifter to a 130 lbs woman she will be able to bench as much as the powerlifter? Just answer a simple "yes" or "no" to this question.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

bench shirt = tendons

woman + bench shirt = stronger 

[suckmymuscle]

Of course.

  Of course not.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[chaos]

SUCKSMANMUSCLE still getting pwned over this situation.