What is "Progressive Overload"?

[chaos]

, it restricts the movement

No it doesn't.

.shirtbenching is nowadays first and foremost about lock-out power, which sucks, IMO...

A shirt is at its least effective during lockout........is that what you are trying to say here?

[spude]

No it doesn't.
A shirt is at its least effective during lockout........is that what you are trying to say here?

What I`m saying is, the nearer the bar is to your chest the more the shirt is going to help you.

[Ursus]

Bench shirt = extra tendons

extra tendons = strength

350lb PLer = strong woman with shirt

[spude]

Bench shirt = extra tendons

extra tendons = strength

350lb PLer = strong woman with shirt

False.

False.

QFT

[Ursus]

False.

False.

QFT

Wrong.

[d0nny2600]

Carry on.

[spude]

Carry on.

Built chest=short ROM=good bench...hopefully without a shirt...

[d0nny2600]

Built chest=short ROM=good bench...hopefully without a shirt...

No bra allowed

[spude]

No bra allowed

[dj181]

What happens if a bodybuilder goes from bench pressing 200 pounds for 6 reps to 300 pounds for 6 reps? Does his chest, delts, and tris get bigger, smaller, or stay the same size?

[Tito24]

on a certain point the muscles dont grow that much anymore with weight increase

[dj181]

Yeah man, I understand that, but if one make a pretty big weight increase on a certain exercise, then they will definately have bigger muscles. I'm talking about adding 50 or more pounds on compound exercises, or 25 or more pounds on a dumbell exercise. For example going from dumbell curling the 50s to the 80s

[spude]

Yeah man, I understand that, but if one make a pretty big weight increase on a certain exercise, then they will definately have bigger muscles. I'm talking about adding 50 or more pounds on compound exercises, or 25 or more pounds on a dumbell exercise. For example going from dumbell curling the 50s to the 80s

Front delts might grow a bit...

[dj181]

Alright then, how about 1-arm dumbell preacher curls

[Ursus]

What happens if a bodybuilder goes from bench pressing 200 pounds for 6 reps to 300 pounds for 6 reps? Does his chest, delts, and tris get bigger, smaller, or stay the same size?

He started using a smith machine obviously.

[kevcat]

He started using a smith machine obviously.

So much negativity regarding growing muscle/strength naturally on here.Im guessing not many of you have the balls and patience to week after week keep lifting that weight till you can rep more.It might take months to get past sticking points but its not impossible.So many poeple want to admit that you can only do this or that for a certain time then you have to up the dosage.Bullshit.try training hard for once 

[First Blood]

Hold on a minute. The reason I get stronger and bigger is because of the past 6 years I have gradually lifted heavier weights and gradually ate more food to recover. Obviously gains are slower and I won't add 50lbs a year to my bench press but I am still adding lbage. If I only add 5lbs a year over the next 10 years I will still have a 450lb bench which for a natty isn't too shabby at all. (Granted I am heavy)

thats progressive overload for a natural. if you are natural it is a must to get stronger in order to grow, for a drug user it's a different ball game.

[dj181]

That's what I keep trying to tell these fellas First Blood. GREATER AND GREATER TRAINING LOADS=BIGGER AND BIGGER MUSCLES aka. PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD

[che]

if you are natural it is a must to get stronger in order to grow,

Not true

[Ursus]

So much negativity regarding growing muscle/strength naturally on here.Im guessing not many of you have the balls and patience to week after week keep lifting that weight till you can rep more.It might take months to get past sticking points but its not impossible.So many poeple want to admit that you can only do this or that for a certain time then you have to up the dosage.Bullshit.try training hard for once 

Chances are if you bench over 315lbs and you are under 265-275lbs you r are juicing.

[First Blood]

Not true

most definately it is true (for a natural!) as increased tension on the muscle is the primary growth stimulus. This is not news, but sadly alot of bodybuilders are still in the 60s when it comes to knowledge about the human body. progressive overload is the basic premise of natural bodybuilding. (it's important for drug users too...but a drug user can always increase the dosage and drug use changes alot of things in terms of the bodies 'chemistry')

but getting stronger doesn't mean that it's all about increasing your 1RM (which is the goal of a powerlifter), no you need to do a certain amount of work too and as a bodybuilder is't probably best to focus more on the 6-12 rep range and try to get stronger in that rep range. sometimes you can include lower rep sets too. as a natural if you keep lifting the same weights nothing will happen after a while.

[che]

most definately it is true (for a natural!)

Not true

[First Blood]

Not true

seriously it's the basic premise for growth for natural bodybuilders. can you provide any information that supports your argument? and I'm talking about true natural bodybuilders.

[dj181]

So how does one get bigger muscles without increasing their training loads?

[che]

seriously it's the basic premise for growth for natural bodybuilders. can you provide any information that supports your argument? and I'm talking about true natural bodybuilders.

I'm a true natural bodybuilder,  I gained about 35-40 lbs of muscle ( over 10 years ) basically lifting the same amount of weight because my weak joints (specially shoulders).