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Soyuz crew launched into space
« on: December 16, 2010, 05:05:04 AM »
Soyuz TMA-20 with US astronaut Cady Coleman, Italian astronaut Paolo Nespoli and Russian cosmonaut Dmitry Kondratiev on board blasts off from the Russian leased Baikonur cosmodrome early morning on December 16, 2010

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Re: Soyuz crew launched into space
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2010, 05:06:50 AM »
 Question - don't Americans have anything to launch their own astronauts on their own? Crisis?  >:( ;D

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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2010, 05:23:58 AM »
It is all part of a bigger plan.

International space operations will enter a new phase next year after the U.S. shuttle fleet is mothballed. Two more shuttle missions are planned, after which the Soyuz will be the only vehicle available to transport crews to the orbiting laboratory.
Russia profited handsomely from that monopolist position when it signed contracts for carrying NASA astronauts to the space station up to the end of 2014. A round-trip ticket to the space station in 2011 and 2012 will cost NASA as much as $51 million, up from the current $26 million. The price will jump to $56 million in 2013 and 2014.
The White House wants NASA focused on next-generation rockets and spacecraft that could carry astronauts to asteroids and Mars, and hopes to rely on private business to develop craft capable of ferrying cargo and crew to the space station. Last week, Space Exploration Technologies Corp. of Hawthorne, California, conducted a second test launch of its Dragon capsule, and safely guided it back to Earth for the first time.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=132072187

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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2010, 06:40:10 AM »
It is all part of a bigger plan.

International space operations will enter a new phase next year after the U.S. shuttle fleet is mothballed. Two more shuttle missions are planned, after which the Soyuz will be the only vehicle available to transport crews to the orbiting laboratory.
Russia profited handsomely from that monopolist position when it signed contracts for carrying NASA astronauts to the space station up to the end of 2014. A round-trip ticket to the space station in 2011 and 2012 will cost NASA as much as $51 million, up from the current $26 million. The price will jump to $56 million in 2013 and 2014.
The White House wants NASA focused on next-generation rockets and spacecraft that could carry astronauts to asteroids and Mars, and hopes to rely on private business to develop craft capable of ferrying cargo and crew to the space station. Last week, Space Exploration Technologies Corp. of Hawthorne, California, conducted a second test launch of its Dragon capsule, and safely guided it back to Earth for the first time.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=132072187


 Yeah I heard that! Next - generation rockets and spacecrafts.  NASA!!!!


 Meanwhile in Russia

 Russian crew breaks record for isolation in simulated 520-day trip to Mars

 The experimental Mars 500 crew has now spent over 100 days isolated in a simulated space craft. Scientists have been watching them closely to test what it would be like to travel to the Red Planet.

The Mars 500 crew has been locked in their mock up space module for over a hundred days now and has several hundred more to go. They live an ordinary life, but in an extraordinary setting. Psychologists are watching for signs of stress or tension.

“Experiments in psychology are quite exciting,” says Yury Bubeyev, head of the Psychology and Psychophysiology department of the Mars 500 program. “The way they communicate with the Control Center, and, in particular, the texts they write for radio communications and emails are important sources for psychologists who see their mental state and the way they are interacting.”

The six men entered their voluntary isolation back in June, simulating the estimated 520-day voyage to Mars, a mock Mars landing, and the trip back.


The modules in the Institute of Biomedical research in Moscow are designed to mimic the conditions of such a journey, minus the zero gravity and the physical distance. As well as that, the idea that they are travelling to Mars and back is strongly cultivated.

However, with the real world – not deep space – just outside the door, how realistic a preparation is this for a future mission to Mars?

“Of course, this is not preparation for a mission to Mars. That is out of question; there is no equipment and no test program as such. However, some aspects such as confined space and limited communication are practiced here. The results of such a study may later prove important not only for space missions, but also for areas like polar exploration, where people have to spend a lot of time in little groups in isolated spaces,” Sergey Krikalyov, Head of Russia's Cosmonaut Training Center says.

As well as going without outside contact, the crew has also been denied female company. Others too, like submariners or polar explorers have to spend long periods with only males. Psychologists here are taking the opportunity to see what effects it may have.

“Physiology has its share in this, of course. Perhaps the absence of women contributes to more irritability or even aggression. It is totally up to us psychologists to smooth over any problems,” Yury Bubeyev says.

Much research work is being done onboard, which keeps the crew focused and motivated. Progress maps are updated daily, and there is an artificial time delay of up to twenty minutes for all outside communications to account for the distance from Earth.

So far the psychologists are happy with what they have seen.

“We haven’t had any major problems. During the selection and preparation stage, a very good crew was selected and trained. This is a stable crew; therefore there have been very few problems,” Yury Bubeyev says.

For another 418 days the staff here will monitor the crew through the CCTV cameras 24 hours a day, every day. If problems do occur, they are supposed to be most likely after approximately nine months, but for now it’s so far, so good.

Former contestant of the Russian equivalent of reality TV show Big Brother Michael Kravchenko knows what it feels like to be monitored 24/7.

“The first days were daunting, I kept looking over my shoulder not knowing what to do in front of the camera, but after a while that faded away. It started feeling just like a regular day,” Kravchenko told

 

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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2010, 06:58:45 AM »
Congrats to the worlds semi-retarded little brothers for not blowing themselves up on the launch pad today.

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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2010, 07:02:14 AM »
Congrats to the worlds semi-retarded little brothers for not blowing themselves up on the launch pad today.

 :)

 Give up an idea of ever becoming a diplomat fella! ;)

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« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2010, 07:09:14 AM »
LOL!!! Simulated. Key word, dork.

Even Russian official stated the following:
Russia's Federal Space Agency chief Anatoly Perminov welcomed the Dragon's success, saying Wednesday it would alleviate the burden of Russia's space program. "This will be very good for Russia, because by having a reserve vehicle, we will free up our own resources," he said.

Russia doesn't have the resources to do what the USA is trying to do because of the costs and the time it takes to send their spacecrafts. Keep sending them up broski. While you do that and get paid for it, USA will continue to be DECADES ahead of your country in space exploration.

So stick to simulations and wishful thinking.

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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2010, 07:14:28 AM »
Congrats to the worlds semi-retarded little brothers for not blowing themselves up on the launch pad today.

 :)
Well the only reason that didn't happen is because there was an American on board


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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2010, 07:16:08 AM »
were they at least in snazzy designer threads, like their army is?

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« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2010, 07:41:09 AM »
LOL!!! Simulated. Key word, dork.

Even Russian official stated the following:
Russia's Federal Space Agency chief Anatoly Perminov welcomed the Dragon's success, saying Wednesday it would alleviate the burden of Russia's space program. "This will be very good for Russia, because by having a reserve vehicle, we will free up our own resources," he said.

Russia doesn't have the resources to do what the USA is trying to do because of the costs and the time it takes to send their spacecrafts. Keep sending them up broski. While you do that and get paid for it, USA will continue to be DECADES ahead of your country in space exploration.

So stick to simulations and wishful thinking.

 What did you say DORK? NASA are not the Egyptian pyramids, the weaker economy - the less NASA!

 Hey DORK! Whose foot do you think will 1'st step on Mars? American or Russian?

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« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2010, 08:12:54 AM »
What did you say DORK? NASA are not the Egyptian pyramids, the weaker economy - the less NASA!

 Hey DORK! Whose foot do you think will 1'st step on Mars? American or Russian?

Russia 2050!

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« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2010, 08:26:10 AM »
What did you say DORK? NASA are not the Egyptian pyramids, the weaker economy - the less NASA!

 Hey DORK! Whose foot do you think will 1'st step on Mars? American or Russian?

American. Russia is so far behind it's impossible it can catch up. The only way a Russian steps on Mars is by imitating what USA does or stealing the science via espionage.

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« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2010, 08:33:15 AM »

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« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2010, 08:35:21 AM »
BlackMerica 2050!
Chimerica? BlackMerica? Please explain what you mean by these terms?

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« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2010, 08:36:30 AM »
Chimerica? BlackMerica? Please explain what you mean by these phrases?

 China + America = Chimerica! The second one guess on your own! DORK!

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« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2010, 08:38:38 AM »
American. Russia is so far behind it's impossible it can catch up. The only way a Russian steps on Mars is by imitating what USA does or stealing the science via espionage.

 I don't understand you bud, once you say that we're far behind so it's impossible to catch up then you say that Russia may still possible to put their foot on Mars before Americans! NASA? Joke!

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« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2010, 08:42:53 AM »
I don't understand you bud, once you say that we're far behind so it's impossible to catch up then you say that Russia may still possible to put their foot on Mars before Americans! NASA? Joke!
You don't understand because you missed this phrase: The only way a Russian steps on Mars is by imitating what USA does or stealing the science via espionage.

Left to their own designs, Russians can't accomplish anything. Only reason Russians get anywhere in their "space" programs has been due to stealing scientific advancements from other countries. Capisce, gimpy?

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« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2010, 08:47:56 AM »
You don't understand because you missed this phrase: The only way a Russian steps on Mars is by imitating what USA does or stealing the science via espionage.

Left to their own designs, Russians can't accomplish anything. Only reason Russians get anywhere in their "space" programs has been due to stealing scientific advancements from other countries. Capisce, gimpy?


 Excuse me? You were born in 1973 and still a moron! Or you believe I buy or believe your crap? lol But we don't fake the 1'st step on the moon in Hollywood studios! Yuri Gagarin - the 1'st man in teh fucking COSMOS

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« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2010, 08:48:47 AM »
You don't understand because you missed this phrase: The only way a Russian steps on Mars is by imitating what USA does or stealing the science via espionage.

Left to their own designs, Russians can't accomplish anything. Only reason Russians get anywhere in their "space" programs has been due to stealing scientific advancements from other countries. Capisce, gimpy?

2050!

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« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2010, 09:00:28 AM »
Excuse me? You were born in 1973 and still a moron! Or you believe I buy or believe your crap? lol But we don't fake the 1'st step on the moon in Hollywood studios! Yuri Gagarin - the 1'st man in teh fucking COSMOS


LOL!! Fake the 1st step!! Your third world country lost the race to the moon, lost the cold war without a single shot being fired and it will continue to lag behind the USA aka the greatest nation ever.

It would be better for you if you just accept reality and move on. You are pathetic and I feel sorry for your parents. You must be a heavy burden on them.

This will be me last reply to you. But, keep knocking yourself off by posting garbage.


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« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2010, 09:02:04 AM »
2050!

the economic potential of Brazil, Russia, India, and China is such that they could become among the four most dominant economies by the year 2050.

Blackmerica 2050!

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« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2010, 09:03:16 AM »
LOL!! Fake the 1st step!! Your third world country lost the race to the moon, lost the cold war without a single shot being fired and it will continue to lag behind the USA aka the greatest nation ever.

It would be better for you if you just accept reality and move on. You are pathetic and I feel sorry for your parents. You must be a heavy burden on them.

This will be me last reply to you. But, keep knocking yourself off by posting garbage.



 Hollywood 2050!

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« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2010, 03:03:58 PM »
Visit the beautiful Russian country side and glow in the dark. How many did you asshats sacrifice to contain this mess? about 400,000.

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« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2010, 03:09:43 PM »
Only in Russia ::)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/13/AR2010121301351.html

And while we are at it, here is a list of things to avoid should you decide to take the tour

From another board:

I can't claim past or current participation - or even participation envy - regarding most of the stuff you ground pounders discuss, but on this one I may be one of our only members who can literally say, in this case, BTDT. Based on that, there's no way you or anyone is dragging me back to that place, even with a trackhoe and anchor chain. I'd say no way in hell, except that place is about as close to hell as I've ever been. I'd say no way on God's green earth, but that doesn't really apply there, either.

However, if you insist on going, here are a few tourist tips:
1. Don't drink the water.
2. Don't even touch the water.
3. Don't touch anything that has moss, ivy, or lichen growing on it.
4. Don't touch anything that lives in/on or eats moss, ivy, or lichen.
5. If you messed up with items 1 though 4, wash with luke warm water and soap, not using any of the local water.
6. Bring your own bottled water and liquid hand soap.
7. The big game hunting for bear, elk, and boar may be fun, but you don't want to eat anything that lives there.
8. Beware of the wild boars. Seriously. They are not scared of you, they will eat almost anything including your carcass, they don't mind making you into an edible carcass, and they are uniformly radioactive to mind-boggling levels so that just getting nuzzled by a friendly one (if they exist) is still very bad.
9. Stay far away from the giant field full of hundreds of abandoned trucks and helicopters. The one eyed snaggle toothed thieves there are even more dangerous than the radiationthere , and that's saying something.
10. Beware of anyone you meet in the dead zone away from the power plant, regardless of whether they have a uniform. If possible, go armed.
11. The hospitality of the elderly locals may be genuine, but it may also require you to touch or consume things you shouldn't.
12. The hospitality of the not so elderly locals should always set off your danger alarm. They didn't bother building cell phone towers there, and there is nobody to hear you scream.
13. Everybody wants to go to Pripyat and have their picture taken at the old amusement park. Watch out for stupid discarded crap there, like dirty needles and used condoms. If it looks like a cool spot for a picture, a thousand scumbags have preceded you there. Again, beware of moss, ivy, and inside the buildings especially watch out for mold.
14. Stay away from rusty metal if you can because it is more likely to be radioactive. Nevermind, you can't. It's all rusty.
15. Bring a few of bottles of vodka. It might as well be legal tender when dealing with the local security people. For best results offer to share the bottle with them instead of just handing it over, which might actually offend them.

If for some stupid reason you must actually visit the powerplant:
16. Unit 3 looks just like Unit 4 did, except backwards. Go there for the "before" look. If possible, leave then, quickly.
17. Do not go into Unit 4 if you can avoid it. In fact, don't go there unless you are being actively chased by a radioactive wild boar.
18. If you managed to screw up #17, stay away from anything that looks like a chunk of concrete with rebar sticking out.
19. If you managed to screw up #18, kick what looks like concrete. If it doesn't move easily, resume breathing. If it does move easily, it is actually radioactive graphite from the core, and you might as well go ahead and start making those final arrangements. The concrete and graphite chunks are both in great abundance and they look very similar in poor lighting.
20. About that poor lighting - bring multiple sources of light. You don't want to be there in the dark, and it will always be dark in the one spot where you need to see.
21. Disregard anything resembling maps of the inside of the building. The original building plans went out the window with the explosion, which relocated walls, stairs, rooms, plumbing, etc. The maps made since then are highly undependable and were in some cases made by people sitting outside in a nice warm truck with a pencil, the back of a C ration box, and an active imagination.
22. Don't let anything drip on you. It will happen anyway, but try to minimize it. For that reason, be sure to have at least one layer of disposable clothing on the outside of whatever else you are wearing. Something waterproof would be best, along with waterproof boots you won't mind throwing away.
23. Don't get sucked into the coolness of visiting the elephant's foot. Remember that part about radiation being colorless, odorless, and tasteless? Well, it's different way down there. You can smell the ozone in the air, like before a lightning storm. It's caused by the gamma rays ionizing the atmosphere, which causes a cascade of beta rays from the air. You can even taste the radioactive air on your tongue, sort of like sucking on a penny. If you can smell and taste the ionized air, you can run away, but you may have already been there too long. If you want to see the elephant's foot, do a Google image search, but for pete's sake don't go down there.
24. In the turbine hall, stay off the catwalks, away from anyplace with ceiling leakage, and out of the lower levels. That's more of a safety issue than a radiation issue, but any twisted ankle that slows you down leaves you in the radiation field longer.
25. If you managed to screw up #24, have a good first aid kit with you. Again, there is no 9-1-1 and nobody to hear you scream. Nobody, that is, that you want to hear you scream.
26. Photographic film might get exposed inside its canister by the radiation, so you are better off with a digital camera. However, in the nastier places (such as the elephant's foot) the fields are intense enough to screw up microchips, so don't take anything electronic unless it is military grade EMP resistant. For the same reason, anything with a magnetic bar code on it (like perhaps your American drivers license) shouldn't go into those areas, so ensure that you have some other means of corpse identification on you.

Happy hunting, boys and girls! I'll await your after action report on the elk you shot there, how beautiful its rack was, the condition of its teeth, and how many tumors you found inside what you had hoped to eat.
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Re: Soyuz crew launched into space
« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2010, 04:52:09 PM »
But but but ..............2050!

Only in Russia ::)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/13/AR2010121301351.html

And while we are at it, here is a list of things to avoid should you decide to take the tour

From another board:

I can't claim past or current participation - or even participation envy - regarding most of the stuff you ground pounders discuss, but on this one I may be one of our only members who can literally say, in this case, BTDT. Based on that, there's no way you or anyone is dragging me back to that place, even with a trackhoe and anchor chain. I'd say no way in hell, except that place is about as close to hell as I've ever been. I'd say no way on God's green earth, but that doesn't really apply there, either.

However, if you insist on going, here are a few tourist tips:
1. Don't drink the water.
2. Don't even touch the water.
3. Don't touch anything that has moss, ivy, or lichen growing on it.
4. Don't touch anything that lives in/on or eats moss, ivy, or lichen.
5. If you messed up with items 1 though 4, wash with luke warm water and soap, not using any of the local water.
6. Bring your own bottled water and liquid hand soap.
7. The big game hunting for bear, elk, and boar may be fun, but you don't want to eat anything that lives there.
8. Beware of the wild boars. Seriously. They are not scared of you, they will eat almost anything including your carcass, they don't mind making you into an edible carcass, and they are uniformly radioactive to mind-boggling levels so that just getting nuzzled by a friendly one (if they exist) is still very bad.
9. Stay far away from the giant field full of hundreds of abandoned trucks and helicopters. The one eyed snaggle toothed thieves there are even more dangerous than the radiationthere , and that's saying something.
10. Beware of anyone you meet in the dead zone away from the power plant, regardless of whether they have a uniform. If possible, go armed.
11. The hospitality of the elderly locals may be genuine, but it may also require you to touch or consume things you shouldn't.
12. The hospitality of the not so elderly locals should always set off your danger alarm. They didn't bother building cell phone towers there, and there is nobody to hear you scream.
13. Everybody wants to go to Pripyat and have their picture taken at the old amusement park. Watch out for stupid discarded crap there, like dirty needles and used condoms. If it looks like a cool spot for a picture, a thousand scumbags have preceded you there. Again, beware of moss, ivy, and inside the buildings especially watch out for mold.
14. Stay away from rusty metal if you can because it is more likely to be radioactive. Nevermind, you can't. It's all rusty.
15. Bring a few of bottles of vodka. It might as well be legal tender when dealing with the local security people. For best results offer to share the bottle with them instead of just handing it over, which might actually offend them.

If for some stupid reason you must actually visit the powerplant:
16. Unit 3 looks just like Unit 4 did, except backwards. Go there for the "before" look. If possible, leave then, quickly.
17. Do not go into Unit 4 if you can avoid it. In fact, don't go there unless you are being actively chased by a radioactive wild boar.
18. If you managed to screw up #17, stay away from anything that looks like a chunk of concrete with rebar sticking out.
19. If you managed to screw up #18, kick what looks like concrete. If it doesn't move easily, resume breathing. If it does move easily, it is actually radioactive graphite from the core, and you might as well go ahead and start making those final arrangements. The concrete and graphite chunks are both in great abundance and they look very similar in poor lighting.
20. About that poor lighting - bring multiple sources of light. You don't want to be there in the dark, and it will always be dark in the one spot where you need to see.
21. Disregard anything resembling maps of the inside of the building. The original building plans went out the window with the explosion, which relocated walls, stairs, rooms, plumbing, etc. The maps made since then are highly undependable and were in some cases made by people sitting outside in a nice warm truck with a pencil, the back of a C ration box, and an active imagination.
22. Don't let anything drip on you. It will happen anyway, but try to minimize it. For that reason, be sure to have at least one layer of disposable clothing on the outside of whatever else you are wearing. Something waterproof would be best, along with waterproof boots you won't mind throwing away.
23. Don't get sucked into the coolness of visiting the elephant's foot. Remember that part about radiation being colorless, odorless, and tasteless? Well, it's different way down there. You can smell the ozone in the air, like before a lightning storm. It's caused by the gamma rays ionizing the atmosphere, which causes a cascade of beta rays from the air. You can even taste the radioactive air on your tongue, sort of like sucking on a penny. If you can smell and taste the ionized air, you can run away, but you may have already been there too long. If you want to see the elephant's foot, do a Google image search, but for pete's sake don't go down there.
24. In the turbine hall, stay off the catwalks, away from anyplace with ceiling leakage, and out of the lower levels. That's more of a safety issue than a radiation issue, but any twisted ankle that slows you down leaves you in the radiation field longer.
25. If you managed to screw up #24, have a good first aid kit with you. Again, there is no 9-1-1 and nobody to hear you scream. Nobody, that is, that you want to hear you scream.
26. Photographic film might get exposed inside its canister by the radiation, so you are better off with a digital camera. However, in the nastier places (such as the elephant's foot) the fields are intense enough to screw up microchips, so don't take anything electronic unless it is military grade EMP resistant. For the same reason, anything with a magnetic bar code on it (like perhaps your American drivers license) shouldn't go into those areas, so ensure that you have some other means of corpse identification on you.

Happy hunting, boys and girls! I'll await your after action report on the elk you shot there, how beautiful its rack was, the condition of its teeth, and how many tumors you found inside what you had hoped to eat.