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Re: Riots in Greece
« Reply #100 on: December 19, 2010, 09:27:52 AM »
b/c its not unjust...

Ok. In that case I guess the verdict is out: tonymctones wins over hundreds of thousands of Greek protesters.

I mean... do you understand how dumb you sound?

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again what school did you go to that taught you econ 101 in that way?

and if you feel it is unjust why not work to rectify the situation instead of following along in it...

What are you talking about, economic conditions here in the US or those in Greece? I think you're talking about the economic conditions that affect me, meaning Americans, instead of following the thread...

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you seem to be ok with making the money your making in the "unjust" system

you feel that you should be coddled and taken care of instead of taking care of yourself...two different ways of looking at it...that doesnt make my way unjust b/c i dont want to hold you fuking hand

Just as I though. You're talking about me and the conditions that affect me. Listen, open up a thread about the income disparity in the US and I'll be glad to participate. Otherwise don't post shit and try to sink someone else's thread.


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Re: Riots in Greece
« Reply #101 on: December 19, 2010, 09:34:18 AM »
Ok. In that case I guess the verdict is out: tonymctones wins over hundreds of thousands of Greek protesters.

I mean... do you understand how dumb you sound?

What are you talking about, economic conditions here in the US or those in Greece? I think you're talking about the economic conditions that affect me, meaning Americans, instead of following the thread...

Just as I though. You're talking about me and the conditions that affect me. Listen, open up a thread about the income disparity in the US and I'll be glad to participate. Otherwise don't post shit and try to sink someone else's thread.


LMFAO nice side step

here you go
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=359869.0

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Re: Riots in Greece
« Reply #102 on: December 19, 2010, 09:46:05 AM »
LMFAO nice side step

here you go
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=359869.0



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Re: Riots in Greece
« Reply #103 on: December 19, 2010, 09:49:40 AM »
Its coming here with public employees when they realize their pensions are gone and they get laid off because they have been living in fantasy land for far too long. 
I bet congress gets their pensions. But not before they vote on tax cuts for themselves.
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Re: Riots in Greece
« Reply #104 on: December 19, 2010, 10:21:51 AM »
I'm talking about state govt employee unions who are demanding more and more and have expectations of madoff like benes and pensions that no sane society can ever afford.

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Re: Riots in Greece
« Reply #105 on: December 19, 2010, 01:59:16 PM »
If you only bothered to check...

If the Greeks are so lazy and the Germans are so hard-working... Why is it that the Greeks workers work, on average, almost 450 hours more per year than their German counterparts?



You see, the Greeks are pissed mad because they have a right to be pissed mad. They look at the German government and how efficiently it is run and they know theirs can do the same thing. It is corruption and a culture of bitch-gathering (meaning paying for votes, which cost the Greeks money) that makes that imposible. But make no mistake, the Greeks are not dumb, like I said, they know when something big and spiky is being rammed up their asses. They know they work more hours than most people in Europe and they do not mind because they have a social safety net they can rely on should they lose their jobs or something else happen. They also know that extending the retirement age is just another concesion to the richest 5% of the population that always cries that they are being overtaxed but never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever mention the simple fact that they are also being overpaid.

That's why they're running around burning cars. Shooting people in the back of the head in the richest parts of Athens, et cetera. And they'll do it until their politicians stop being corrupt, which they refuse. And I think they have a right to protest.


LMFAO!!!

Have you been to Greece?

I actually have.

It's a country that just doesn't function.

Yeah, they might, on paper, be working lots of hours.

But you can't just have quantity. Those hours have to be filled with something. You got incredible amounts of people just being "employed" lord knows doing what.

Eg, some are being employed to take care of a lake. That wouldn't be a bad thing.

Only, the lake has been dried up and non-existent since the 1930's.

The government used to own Olympic Airways, got rid of it last year. Until they did, all employees AND their families would travel for FREE around the world. Totally unheard of in any other airline.

You got so many corrupt rules you could fill a book. As long as you don't complete a building you don't have to pay full tax. So you'll see plenty of houses that are half complete. Totally ridiculous.


I also have been to Germany.


None of this bullshit is going on there.

The wages in Germany are much higher - that means that industries that won't make it will file for bankruptcy.

Only efficient companies will stay in business.

Unlike a near-third world like country like Greece.

You don't think people in Kenya work their asses of too? I bet they work even more than Greeks. But that doesn't make what they do any good.

You need to have a good system in order.

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Re: Riots in Greece
« Reply #106 on: December 19, 2010, 02:46:36 PM »
Hedge stop using facts and logic against Slapper. They detract from his argument and make him look really stupid. Everyone knows that Greece is a perfectly run country with a great economy and intelligent, hard working people that don't depend on the government for anything. Stop watching Fox News and listening to Rush Limbaugh.

Other perfectly run countries according to Slapper include: Cuba, North Korea, Yemen, Zimbabwe, Mongolia and Zaire. America should aspire to be as well run as those places.

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Re: Riots in Greece
« Reply #107 on: December 19, 2010, 04:52:49 PM »
Hedge stop using facts and logic against Slapper. They detract from his argument and make him look really stupid. Everyone knows that Greece is a perfectly run country with a great economy and intelligent, hard working people that don't depend on the government for anything. Stop watching Fox News and listening to Rush Limbaugh.

Other perfectly run countries according to Slapper include: Cuba, North Korea, Yemen, Zimbabwe, Mongolia and Zaire. America should aspire to be as well run as those places.
also employees who have basically no risk to the company going out of business should be compensated as those that do...

also employees that make no decisions on how the company is run and the decisions that lead to profits should share in the profits made from the decisions that they had no hand in....

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Re: Riots in Greece
« Reply #108 on: December 19, 2010, 05:19:09 PM »
also employees who have basically no risk to the company going out of business should be compensated as those that do...

also employees that make no decisions on how the company is run and the decisions that lead to profits should share in the profits made from the decisions that they had no hand in....

 ;)

Yes, that makes perfect sense from a business standpoint.  ;D

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Re: Riots in Greece
« Reply #109 on: December 23, 2010, 06:00:46 AM »

LMFAO!!!

Have you been to Greece?

I actually have.

It's a country that just doesn't function.

Yeah, they might, on paper, be working lots of hours.

But you can't just have quantity. Those hours have to be filled with something. You got incredible amounts of people just being "employed" lord knows doing what.

Eg, some are being employed to take care of a lake. That wouldn't be a bad thing.

Only, the lake has been dried up and non-existent since the 1930's.

The government used to own Olympic Airways, got rid of it last year. Until they did, all employees AND their families would travel for FREE around the world. Totally unheard of in any other airline.

You got so many corrupt rules you could fill a book. As long as you don't complete a building you don't have to pay full tax. So you'll see plenty of houses that are half complete. Totally ridiculous.


I also have been to Germany.


None of this bullshit is going on there.

The wages in Germany are much higher - that means that industries that won't make it will file for bankruptcy.

Only efficient companies will stay in business.

Unlike a near-third world like country like Greece.

You don't think people in Kenya work their asses of too? I bet they work even more than Greeks. But that doesn't make what they do any good.

You need to have a good system in order.



Nope, I have not been to Greece. I, however, lived in a Mediterranean country for many years (Spain) and can attest that people around the Mediterranean work some loooooooong hours. I mean, if memory serves me right... Their shifts were something like from 9AM to 1:30PM and 4:30PM to 8-8:30PM. They easily beat the Germans by a ½-1 hour per day. I really do not know, to this day, why the Spaniards and the Greeks have a reputation for being "lazy". I'd be really fucking pissed if someone told me that I was going to have to add another hour to my workday... especially if I'm already putting in 9-10 hours per day. AND do it without a raise. AND higher taxes.

By this I'm not insinuating that Greeks are more efficient than Germans. That goes without saying: They are not. But that's not what the Greek worker has to worry about. What they have to worry about is having to extend their working hours and get less money because of a handfull of corrupt politicians who basically mortgage someone else's house out (the Greek government) and an elite that basically refuses to take part in the country's economic activity when the markets are not in their favor. It's insanity.

I'm pretty sure the Greeks look at the German government with envy and only wish their politicos did the same thing. The problem is their government is corrupt. The Greek politicians are treating their own people like slaves. Thats why Greeks are  running around burning shit.