Was Jesus a communist?

[tu_holmes]

I think anyone who thinks they know what Jesus would or wouldn't have thought is thinking pretty highly of themselves.

PS... Jesus didn't exist. Look it up.

[tu_holmes]

Again - educate yourself.  There is nothing voluntary about communism.   Jesus said to give voluntarily, not at the force o jail r death by Caesers' sword.

There's nothing voluntary about giving taxes or going to jail or any of that shit, doesn't change that's how it works.

[dario73]

PS... Jesus didn't exist. Look it up.

Incorrect. Josephus and other ancient historians claim he did exist and was killed due to sorcery. Whether he was the Son of God is another issue left up to individual faith.

Please, don't come back with: Well Flavius Josephus was a traitor to his people by aligning himself to the Romans. He was still a historian and had nothing to gain from stating that Jesus of Nazareth existed.

[tu_holmes]

Incorrect. Josephus and other ancient historians claim he did exist and was killed due to sorcery. Whether he was the Son of God is another issue left up to individual faith.

Please, don't come back with: Well Flavius Josephus was a traitor to his people by aligning himself to the Romans. He was still a historian and had nothing to gain from stating that Jesus of Nazareth existed.

So you're saying that person who wasn't born until 4 years after this supposed Jesus' death has some first hand knowledge of his existence?

Another hearsay basically, but this is all tangential and not the point.

[theonlyone]

 Jesus was a human being lover - Feodor Dostoevsky

[loco]

I think anyone who thinks they know what Jesus would or wouldn't have thought is thinking pretty highly of themselves.

PS... Jesus didn't exist. Look it up.

Jesus did exist.  Look it up.

tu_holmes,

are you sure you want to go down this road with me again?  You and I had this discussion before, and you failed to substantiate your claim. 

sorry tu holmes the other dudes argument and evidence has won me over

[tu_holmes]

Jesus did exist.  Look it up.

tu_holmes,

are you sure you want to go down this road with me again?  You and I had this discussion before, and you failed to substantiate your claim. 

People wanna believe what they want to believe man.

You can not come up with one documented thing to prove that the guy existed... It's all belief, but if you want to waste your time quoting people who couldn't have possibly met the guy... That's all I'm saying.

Believe what you want dude.

Guy is a myth.

[theonlyone]

 Jesus did exist! fact!

[tu_holmes]

Jesus did exist! fact!

OK.

[loco]

People wanna believe what they want to believe man.

You can not come up with one documented thing to prove that the guy existed... It's all belief, but if you want to waste your time quoting people who couldn't have possibly met the guy... That's all I'm saying.

Believe what you want dude.

Guy is a myth.

How quickly you forget, tu_holmes!  Go back to that thread I linked to above and you'll see again that I did much more than just quote people.  Talk about belief in what you want!  George Washington did exist just as much as Jesus Christ did exist.  It has nothing to do with belief.  But I can see why you want to believe that Jesus is a myth.  Whatever floats your boat!

[loco]

So how does that weigh with the original thread question?  Christians say this is a christian nation, they often say that the people, athiest or other need to adhere to America's christian foundation.  They seem willing to force christian ideology on the masses in other areas, why not in this area?no

What do you mean by "forcing" the Christian ideology on the masses in this area?  Are you asking why don't Christians "force" everybody to help the poor through government taxation?  Is that what you are asking?

[tu_holmes]

How quickly you forget, tu_holmes!  Go back to that thread I linked to above and you'll see again that I did much more than just quote people.  Talk about belief in what you want!  George Washington did exist just as much as Jesus Christ did exist.  It has nothing to do with belief.  But I can see why you want to believe that Jesus is a myth.  Whatever floats your boat!

If you say so dude...

[Soul Crusher]

How quickly you forget, tu_holmes!  Go back to that thread I linked to above and you'll see again that I did much more than just quote people.  Talk about belief in what you want!  George Washington did exist just as much as Jesus Christ did exist.  It has nothing to do with belief.  But I can see why you want to believe that Jesus is a myth.  Whatever floats your boat!

Even Jews admit Jesus is a fact, just that he was a rabbi and not the messiah.  

[loco]

Even Jews admit Jesus is a fact, just that he was a rabbi and not the messiah.  

Not all Jews.  It was actually Jewish scholars who invented the Jesus Myth Theory after WWII.  tu_holmes is just repeating non-sense he heard or read somewhere with nothing to substantiate his claim.

[Hugo Chavez]

I think anyone who thinks they know what Jesus would or wouldn't have thought is thinking pretty highly of themselves.

PS... Jesus didn't exist. Look it up.

look it up... lol.... if only I could hand some people I know a dictionary or encyclopedia that listed it as myth and fiction hahahaha.... "look it up..." that's funny haha....

[loco]

Guy is a myth.

Substantiate your claim!

[dario73]

So you're saying that person who wasn't born until 4 years after this supposed Jesus' death has some first hand knowledge of his existence?

Another hearsay basically, but this is all tangential and not the point.

WOW. A whole 4 years!!! Yeah, no historian ever uses verbal accounts of others that lived in times prior to their existence.  I guess we should burn all libraries then.

I guess I should throw out every history book I own because none of those authors lived during the times they describe. History through oral tradition. Did you ever hear of it? Why would Josephus works have any less relevancy than any other historian's work? His works are accepted by most historians, archealogists and helped in understanding the Dead Sea Scrolls.

If anything the fact that he lived close to Jesus' time should lend credence to what he wrote. He never stated that Jesus was God, he just stated that it was common knowledge at that time that such a man had existed.